P-47D-27 (USSR) - Revision history

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 As with the normal P-47D-25, the D-27 can be used one of two modes, first as an excellent Boom & Zoom fighter, using its great energy retention and amazing armament against high flying bombers and fighters. Another option is as a fighter bomber, utilising the impressive payload and adequate diving characteristics of the P-47 (be aware of dropping order of the bombs, the 500 kg bombs drop first and then the 250 kg under the fuselage is dropped). The 500 kg bombs are able to make short work of any tank whether light or heavy in its tier, but the 250 kg bomb can only provide enough explosive power to destroy softer targets, like armoured cars and SPAA. The way both 500 kg bombs drop should either be used against a group of tanks (combined battles) or against large pillboxes. Other than that, the P-47 can be used in multiple roles, unfortunately, using bombs restricts flight to only staying at a low level where the P-47's engine is less effective.
-If using it as a high altitude fighter initially side climbing is recommended, as it gains a vast advantage over other enemies. The hit and run tactics work best for the P-47, singling out a lone fighter below the P-47, diving towards them and a 2-second burst from the M2 Brownings will most likely destroy them. Always try to avoid a head-on engagement, as the engine is large and  exposed from the front and most likely break down if something manages to hit it. If willing to engage a heavy bomber main targets should be the wings and elevators, as they are easy targets for the P-47.
+If using it as a high altitude fighter initially side climbing is recommended, as it gains a vast advantage over other enemies. The hit and run tactics work best for the P-47, singling out a lone fighter below the P-47, diving towards them and a 2-second burst from the M2 Brownings will most likely destroy them. Always try to avoid a head-on engagement, as the engine is large and exposed from the front and most likely break down if something manages to hit it. If willing to engage a heavy bomber main targets should be the wings and elevators, as they are easy targets for the P-47.
 === Ground realistic battles ===
 '''Ground strike'''
-The Soviet P-47 can provide lethal ground support, but '''crucial life-saving decisions should be applied by the pilot'''.
+The Soviet P-47 can provide lethal ground support, but crucial life-saving decisions should be applied by the pilot.
-Once in the air, is prudent to '''scan the air for targets''' (check six first), if none are present, the P-47 can proceed to the battlefield and find a bombing target. If there's one or more enemy aircraft in the combat zone. The pilot is advised to immediately release all bombs; these bombs will only reduce the manoeuvrability of the P-47 if combat actions are to be taken. With all the altitudes disadvantage and dogfight manoeuvres, a P-47 with full bomb load only will be an easy target. Soviet pilots should keep the discipline of bomb disposing once air combat is about to occur. Pilots could also retain their bombs anyway, but then they would be forced to engage in [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and zoom]] tactics due to the weight of the plane.
+Once in the air, is prudent to scan the air for targets (check six first), if none are present, the P-47 can proceed to the battlefield and find a bombing target. If there's one or more enemy aircraft in the combat zone. The pilot is advised to immediately release all bombs; these bombs will only reduce the manoeuvrability of the P-47 if combat actions are to be taken. With all the altitudes disadvantage and dogfight manoeuvres, a P-47 with full bomb load only will be an easy target. Soviet pilots should keep the discipline of bomb disposing once air combat is about to occur. Pilots could also retain their bombs anyway, but then they would be forced to engage in [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and zoom]] tactics due to the weight of the plane.
 If there's no enemy aircraft, the P-47 can continue to use the powerful ordnance. Once the payload is disposed of, is recommendable to leave the combat zone and return to the airfield for rearming. If the P-47 stays at low altitude and near the battlefield, is likely to be engaged by the rear, leading to a disadvantageous duel.
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 * Using the Stealth belt helps for this purpose as the bullets are not visible to the enemy and they often won't react until damaged.
-=== '''Simulator / EC''' ===
+=== Simulator / EC ===
 In Simulator / Enduring Confrontation, bulkier planes that suffer in AB & RB shine and that of course includes the P-47. Sitting at BR 3.7, the lowest BR for rank 3 EC, it can respawn infinitely which makes it a great learning platform for new EC players. In Sim, the P-47 has stable control handling, all-round unobstructed vision and fast speed, and it offers a wide range of additional armaments of bombs plus the original 8 x .50 calibre, meaning it is an excellent multi-role aircraft. It can perform base-bombing, ground pounding, bomber intercepting and traditional Boom and Zoom fighting.
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 For ground pounding, pilots can choose to take the full bombload if desired. Use the bombs and rockets to take out pillboxes and tanks. The aiming method for bombs is pretty similar to base bombing, but there are differences for the 250 kg and 500 kg, as their drop are different and because now the targets are much smaller. Dive at a shallow angle to approach the target, try to get as close as possible but avoid crashing into the ground. When the gunsight slices through and just above the target, drop the 500 kg bombs. When the target is at the centre of the gunsight and fills up around 1/3 of it, release the 250 kg. The 8 MGs are perfect for killing trucks, AA guns and artilleries as they have plenty of ammo.
-{{Notice|Constantly watch the surrounding, especially the rear for any incoming enemies.}}
+{{Notice|Constantly watch your surroundings, especially the rear for any incoming enemies.}}
 '''Interception'''
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 '''Air combat'''
-As for dogfighting, because almost all aerial battles in Sim occurs at below 3,000 m, the P-47 can easily climb to this altitude and gather up lots of speed before engaging a battle. The tactic is similar to the RB one above. If unfortunately, P-47 finds itself being chased , do a large and smooth turn towards the nearest friendly airfield to avoid bleeding too much speed. Then shallow-dive towards allied airfields. The P-47 can quite easily outrun opponents like the [[A6M2]] or [[Bf 109 E-1|Bf-109 E-1]], but struggles to outrun [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf-109 F/G]], [[Fw 190 A-1|FW-190 A-1]]<nowiki/>or other P-47s, like the German  [[P-47D (Germany)|P-47▀]]. Another way of disengaging is to do a sudden Split-S to dodge under the chaser. The average Sim players will now try and see where the P-47 went. P-47 can then run for to the airfield or shallow climb for another attack.
+As for dogfighting, because almost all aerial battles in Sim occurs at below 3,000 m, the P-47 can easily climb to this altitude and gather up lots of speed before engaging a battle. The tactic is similar to the RB one above. If unfortunately, P-47 finds itself being chased , do a large and smooth turn towards the nearest friendly airfield to avoid bleeding too much speed. Then shallow-dive towards allied airfields. The P-47 can quite easily outrun opponents like the [[A6M2]] or [[Bf 109 E-1|Bf-109 E-1]], but struggles to outrun [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf-109 F/G]], [[Fw 190 A-1]] or other P-47s, like the German [[P-47D (Germany)|▀P-47]]. Another way of disengaging is to do a sudden Split-S to dodge under the chaser. The average Sim players will now try and see where the P-47 went. P-47 can then run for to the airfield or shallow climb for another attack.
 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
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 ! WEP Engine power
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-| 8,500 m || 2,000 hp || 2,300 hp
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 == History ==
-The Soviet Union received numerous aircraft through the Lend-Lease program the P-47 being one of many of them. by the end of the war the Union had 118 P-47s
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+The Soviet Union received numerous aircraft through the Lend-Lease program the P-47 being one of many of them. by the end of the war the Union had 118 P-47s
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 ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
-|-
+! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 9,144 m)
-! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
+! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
-! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
+! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
-! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
+! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
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 ! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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-| 676 || 657 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.2 || 27.2 || 7.3 || 7.3 || 600
+! Stock
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+| 676 || 657 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.2 || 27.2 || 7.3 || 7.3 || rowspan="2" | 600
 |-
-| 729 || 700 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 23.8 || 25.0 || 15 || 10.6 || 600
+! Upgraded
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 |}
 ==== Details ====
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+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
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 ! colspan="5" | Features
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-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
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-! colspan="5" | Limits
+! colspan="7" | Limits
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-! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
+! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
-! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
+! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
-! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
+! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 ! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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-! + !! -
+! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-|{{Specs|1=destruction|2=body}}||{{Specs|1=destruction|2=gear}} || 520 || ~12 || ~5
+| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
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 {{About
 | about = premium fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = other versions
 | link = P-47 (Family)
 }}
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.43]]. This aircraft is a Soviet lend-lease version of the iconic American [[P-47D-25]], with only minor differences including a camouflage colour scheme and Russian forged and welded FAB bombs weighed in kilograms instead of the American bombs AN-M series bombs weighed in pounds.
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-|{{Specs|1=destruction|2=body}}||{{Specs|1=destruction|2=gear}} || 520 || ~12 || ~5
+|{{Specs|1=destruction|2=body}}||{{Specs|1=destruction|2=gear}} || 520 || ~12 || ~5
 |-
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 '''Ground strike'''
-The Soviet P-47 can provide lethal ground support, but '''crucial life-saving decisions should be applied by the pilot'''.
+The Soviet P-47 can provide lethal ground support, but '''crucial life-saving decisions should be applied by the pilot'''.
-Once in the air, is prudent to '''scan the air for targets''' (check six first), if none are present, the P-47 can proceed to the battlefield and find a bombing target. If there's one or more enemy aircraft in the combat zone. The pilot is advised to immediately release all bombs; these bombs will only reduce the manoeuvrability of the P-47 if combat actions are to be taken. With all the altitudes disadvantage and dogfight manoeuvres, a P-47 with full bomb load only will be an easy target. Soviet pilots should keep the discipline of bomb disposing once air combat is about to occur. Pilots could also retain their bombs anyway, but then they would be forced to engage in [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and zoom]] tactics due to the weight of the plane.
+Once in the air, is prudent to '''scan the air for targets''' (check six first), if none are present, the P-47 can proceed to the battlefield and find a bombing target. If there's one or more enemy aircraft in the combat zone. The pilot is advised to immediately release all bombs; these bombs will only reduce the manoeuvrability of the P-47 if combat actions are to be taken. With all the altitudes disadvantage and dogfight manoeuvres, a P-47 with full bomb load only will be an easy target. Soviet pilots should keep the discipline of bomb disposing once air combat is about to occur. Pilots could also retain their bombs anyway, but then they would be forced to engage in [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and zoom]] tactics due to the weight of the plane.
 If there's no enemy aircraft, the P-47 can continue to use the powerful ordnance. Once the payload is disposed of, is recommendable to leave the combat zone and return to the airfield for rearming. If the P-47 stays at low altitude and near the battlefield, is likely to be engaged by the rear, leading to a disadvantageous duel.
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 * [[Me 264]]: This giant is one of the few bombers who get air spawns in Sim, so it usually flies higher than thought. On top of this, the Me 264 is armed with large calibre MG and cannons all over it, therefore tailing a 264 is basically suicide unless all of their gunners are knocked out. P-47 can treat the 264 almost like a B-29 or B-17 as they are very similar in both design and defensive capabilities. It is best to head-on the 264 if possible, since then is easy to knock out the pilots due to its glazed nose while also taking minimal damage. However the bomber lacks a ventral turret on its belly, making it easy to deal damage from below, but be weary of the downwards facing rear 20 mm cannon near the tail. The safest way to attack is from a higher altitude, dive at an oblique angle and focus fire on the wings and nose. Never engage if P-47 does not have no altitude advantage.
-* [[Bf 110 (Family)|Bf 110]], [[Ki-45 (Family)|Ki-45]], [[A-26 (Family)|A-26]]: As mentioned before, those twin engine aircraft are a big threat since their lack of manoeuvrability comparing to single engine fighters are minimised in Sim. They are usually armed with heavy guns & cannons in the nose, so an accurate burst will tear any plane apart, including the P-47. The P-47 manoeuvres rather sluggishly and might get out-turned from even those heavy fighters, so engage them with either altitude or speed advantage to avoid being targeted. If they are not manoeuvring aggressively, aim for their wings or engines. If the fight is intense, just burst anywhere as long some bullets hit them; the 12.7 mm bullets will damage their flight performance quite a bit.
+* [[Bf 110 (Family)|Bf 110]], [[Ki-45 (Family)|Ki-45]], [[A-26 (Family)|A-26]]: As mentioned before, those twin engine aircraft are a big threat since their lack of manoeuvrability comparing to single engine fighters are minimised in Sim. They are usually armed with heavy guns & cannons in the nose, so an accurate burst will tear any plane apart, including the P-47. The P-47 manoeuvres rather sluggishly and might get out-turned from even those heavy fighters, so engage them with either altitude or speed advantage to avoid being targeted. If they are not manoeuvring aggressively, aim for their wings or engines. If the fight is intense, just burst anywhere as long some bullets hit them; the 12.7 mm bullets will damage their flight performance quite a bit.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===
 ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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 === Survivability and armour ===
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
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 * 9.5 mm steel under bulletproof glass in cockpit
 * 9.5 mm steel behind pilot's seat
 == Armaments ==
 === Offensive armament ===
 <!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}
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 === Suspended armament ===
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|FAB-250M43 (250 kg)|FAB-500 (500 kg)}}