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U42773747: /* Differences between various optics in game */ typo

2024-06-04T19:00:23Z

‎Differences between various optics in game: typo

U42773747: I neglected this page for quite a while, so here is an update. I think now in each section it will have more info that is less "lol ok" and is more immediately useful to the player. I am yet to remake the gallery, but it still fullfills its purpose, so,eh

2024-06-04T18:54:38Z

I neglected this page for quite a while, so here is an update. I think now in each section it will have more info that is less "lol ok" and is more immediately useful to the player. I am yet to remake the gallery, but it still fullfills its purpose, so,eh

U44629479: Edits

2022-03-04T20:31:40Z

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U44629479: /* Media */ Added Shooting Range episode

2021-09-12T21:33:24Z

‎Media: Added Shooting Range episode

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2021-09-12T06:57:45Z

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2021-09-12T06:47:57Z

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U42773747: Page needs a rework, probably hotkeys table is in order, also the table with specified zooms need a modification, since commander sight is now a separate entity. I suggest using X2-12 / binocular format like in driver view, or separate, what do you think?

2021-07-12T11:14:15Z

Page needs a rework, probably hotkeys table is in order, also the table with specified zooms need a modification, since commander sight is now a separate entity. I suggest using X2-12 / binocular format like in driver view, or separate, what do you think?

U42773747: /* Zero-in the gun */ context fixes, hopefully i made them right.

2019-11-27T13:24:36Z

‎Zero-in the gun: context fixes, hopefully i made them right.

U42773747: /* For use around Wiki */ facts fix. somehow missed it.

2019-10-25T18:30:32Z

‎For use around Wiki: facts fix. somehow missed it.

U64962917: Edits.

2019-10-25T18:27:56Z

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 Also worth noting, the optics of certain nations and/or vehicles may show vignetting or dark areas around the view area from a scope which limit the amount of area which can be viewed through the scope. As optics developed the vignetting lessened or virtually disappeared allowing for a larger viewing area. The FoV stat mentioned on optics '''does not''' take vingetti in consideration and merely mirrors the zoom level as a reminder of the default screen resolutions for that exact magnification - the X10 scope will almost always have FoV of 7° stated, even if the last 2° are not visible due to the vingetti. The only way to find out the truth is to test drive the tanks yourself.
-When the tank has an ability to lock-on and track enemy aircraft with optics (generally mentioned as [[SPAA_radars#Passive_Infrared_and_Optronic_Systems|IRST]]), but doesn't have a separate camera for this specific purpose, then gunner optics will also have the description of the tracker. This option is not always listed in the pop-up, so manually checking for it highly recommended past rank VI.
+When the tank has an ability to lock-on and track enemy aircraft with optics (generally mentioned as [[SPAA_radars#Passive_Infrared_and_Optronic_Systems|IRST]]), but doesn't have a separate camera for this specific purpose, then gunner optics will also have the description of the tracker. This option is not always listed in the pop-up, so manually checking for it is highly recommended past rank VI.
 Commander's sight is different from Gunner's sight and might have different zoom and field of view. Generally, it isn't stronger than gunner's sight, but there are exceptions. On older tanks, commander sight can only have normal night vision, while on most modern tanks, the commander might have the thermal sight as well, just like the gunner. Information on available night vision types for each crew member is listed in the NVD/TVD modification itself (in tank "modifications" menu). If commander optics can control and guide the weapons, then the commander himself will have a pop-up telling that he can control the main armament (which isn't always the case).

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 Optics are a device used by vehicle crews to increase the magnification of the enemy being targeted for a more reliable targeting solution. Typically used in specific modes, optics come into play whenever using the sniper scope (gunner position), the commander's binoculars (from commander's cupola) or scope (from wherever the commander might reside).
-When operating the Gunner scope (typically activated by using "sniper aim" via pressing shift button), objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key Z or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller.
+When operating the Gunner scope (typically activated by using "sniper aim" via pressing shift button), objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key Z or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller. Any gunner scope will contain a crosshair and a compass, with most tanks having a firing application for their current ammunition, like here:
-After Rank V the commander scope is available for most (but not all) tanks and are used by pressing "commander scope sight" hotkey. Unfortunately, this button is not set by default. This scope does not have proper gun sight controls, but you can also bind and activate "use commander sight to aim" hotkey to receive an approximation from your gunner. If this function works, then this also means, that if your gunner is knocked out, your commander can take over and fire weapons instead of him. Do note that this currently does not help you to aim ATGMs since they will only follow the gunner scope crosshairs of your "currently chosen weapon", even if that's an MG.
+[[File:Gunner scope with descriptions.jpg|thumb|none|Click to see UI explanations in more detail]]
-When looking at a vehicle in the vehicle garage of War Thunder, vehicles with optics will show their location when looking at the vehicle in X-ray mode. Using the cursor to hover over the optic a pop-up bubble will appear annotating the device as an "optic", some will even have additional information listed in the pop-up bubble. Generally, if the vehicle has more than one set of optics, only one of them will list the zoom levels options and typically this will appear when hovering over the gunner's optics, however, this is not always the case and all optics may have to be checked for more information.
+After Rank V the commander scope is available for most (but not all) tanks and are used by pressing "commander scope sight" hotkey. Unfortunately, this button is not set by default. Zoom controls are identical to the gunner scope. This scope does not have a proper ballistic application and at first is only used for advanced scouting and rangefinding, but on more advanced tanks you can also bind and activate "use commander sight to aim" hotkey to attack while using it ("aim mode" letters will appear on the top-left corner of your screen, signifying that the commander is currently in control) and to also receive an approximation from your gunner in Arcade battles. Commander will remember this and take over the weapons control every time the commander sight is used from that point onward until told otherwise via the same hotkey:
 [[File:Optics tooltip example.jpg|none|thumb|Optics on [[AMX-30]]. Due to the vehicle modules, the optics may be difficult to find and will require rotating the vehicle for a better view.]]
-Some vehicles do not contain as much information as others and when the optic pop-up bubble only lists one zoom level, it is assumed that this is the maximum zoom available for the optics on this vehicle as in the [[Ho-Ri Production]] Japanese tank destroyer.
+Some vehicles do not contain as much information as others and when the optic pop-up bubble only lists one zoom level, it is assumed that this is the maximum zoom available for the optics on this vehicle as in the [[Ho-Ri Production]] Japanese tank destroyer. Sometimes, the pop-up will provide incomplete information or simply change, so testing things personally is still the best option.
-[[File:Optics tooltip not properly filled example.jpg|none|thumb|Optic pop-up only states '''Zoom:6.0x''' which is expected to be the maximum zoom capability for this unit.]]
+[[File:Optics tooltip not properly filled example.jpg|none|thumb|Optic pop-up only states '''Zoom:6.0x''' which is expected to be the maximum zoom capability for this unit. It didn't display the sight FoV which was later revealed to be 12°]]
 Several vehicles may not have a zoom range specified, when it comes to these, it is best to take the vehicle out on a training run and choose a fixed object in which to compare the zoom rate in comparison to other vehicles with known zoom rates. This will provide a general range in which to have a better idea of what the optics are capable of during combat manoeuvres.
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 An important note to remember in arcade mode is that it is easier to fine-tune gun aim with stronger magnification, especially if an enemy tank has only one small weak spot and you are limited on time. Also, the stronger the zoom is, the further apart the shell drop marks become making it slightly less confusing when estimating the shooting angle targeting solution.
-Also worth noting, the optics of certain nations and/or vehicles may show vignetting or dark areas around the view area from a scope which limit the amount of area which can be viewed through the scope. As optics developed the vignetting lessened or virtually disappeared allowing for a larger viewing area.
+Also worth noting, the optics of certain nations and/or vehicles may show vignetting or dark areas around the view area from a scope which limit the amount of area which can be viewed through the scope. As optics developed the vignetting lessened or virtually disappeared allowing for a larger viewing area. The FoV stat mentioned on optics '''does not''' take vingetti in consideration and merely mirrors the zoom level as a reminder of the default screen resolutions for that exact magnification - the X10 scope will almost always have FoV of 7° stated, even if the last 2° are not visible due to the vingetti. The only way to find out the truth is to test drive the tanks yourself.
-<!-- With inclusion of FoV on most tanks in description, this must be decoded and explained here-->
-Commander's sight is different from Gunner's sight and might have different zoom and field of view. Generally, it isn't stronger than gunner's sight, but there are exceptions.
+Commander's sight is different from Gunner's sight and might have different zoom and field of view. Generally, it isn't stronger than gunner's sight, but there are exceptions. On older tanks, commander sight can only have normal night vision, while on most modern tanks, the commander might have the thermal sight as well, just like the gunner. Information on available night vision types for each crew member is listed in the NVD/TVD modification itself (in tank "modifications" menu). If commander optics can control and guide the weapons, then the commander himself will have a pop-up telling that he can control the main armament (which isn't always the case).
 Commander's binoculars always have about X6 zoom and same lenses across all vehicles.
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 === Examples of zoom levels for different confirmed vehicles ===
-The below screenshots were taken from the test drive map, always from a specific position on the edge between E-4 and D-4 (seen on the minimap) to allow for accurate comparison between vehicle optics being tested, especially with vehicles where the optic value is not known. The testing vehicle's hull front is always aligned towards the target to minimize a collision.
+The below screenshots were taken from the old test drive map, always from a specific position on the edge between E-4 and D-4 (seen on the minimap) to allow for accurate comparison between vehicle optics being tested, especially with vehicles where the optic value was not known. The testing vehicle's hull front is always aligned towards the target to minimize a collision.
 Weather settings for this test are at 16:00 and overcast. It surely would be easier to spot enemy at good weather, but when fighting in realistic battles tanks have camouflage and often begin engagements at the 2 km range. The potential of fog and other weather effects can make targets more difficult to see, therefore these testing purposes will use less than ideal circumstances to compare the different optics results.
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 File:X7.5 zoom example.jpg|X7.5 zoom. Made with [[AMX-13 (SS.11)]].
 File:X8 zoom example.jpg|X8 zoom. Made with [[AMX-30]].
-File:X8 zoom example better lenses.jpg|X8 zoom. Made with [[T-55AM-1]]. Wider field of view compared to [[AMX-30]].
+File:X8 zoom example better lenses.jpg|X8 zoom. Made with [[T-55AM-1]]. Less vingetti when compared to [[AMX-30]].
 File:X9.2 zoom example.jpg|X9.2 zoom. Made with [[Panzer IV/70(A)]].
 File:X10 zoom example.jpg|X10 zoom. Made with [[Challenger Mk.2|Challenger]] tank line.
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 File:X12 zoom example.jpg|X12 zoom. Made with [[Leopard A1A1 (L/44)]]. (Not to be mistaken with the "normal" [[Leopard A1A1]]).
 File:X13 zoom example better lenses.jpg|X13 zoom. Made with [[M901]]. Superior lenses quality for that magnification.
-File:X16.1 zoom example.jpg|X16.1 zoom. Made with [[ST-A1]]. So far, the strongest optics a non-specialized in-game tank can have.
+File:X16.1 zoom example.jpg|X16.1 zoom. Made with [[ST-A1]]. So far, the strongest optics a non-specialized medium tank can have.
 File:X40 zoom example.jpg|X40 zoom. Made with [[Stormer HVM]], which is the only vehicle that uses it. So far, the strongest optics an in-game tank can have.
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 | X3.6 - X12 || 1600 x 1200 || 9.0 || High || 500 x 300 || Thermal imager unlocked by "NVD Upgrade" mod (tier 4), replaces image intensifier.
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-! Commander's View
+! Commander's Sight
-| X4 - X12 / bino || 1600 x 1200 || 9.0 || High || Not Fitted || Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" mod (tier 3)
+| X4 - X12  || 1600 x 1200 || 9.0 || High || Not Fitted || Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" mod (tier 3)
 |-
 ! Driver's View
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 If you were comparing optics of a tank to the gallery and are unsure of your measurements, you can specify that below the table.
-Every NVD can only be used from their designated areas: The gunner NVD can only be used from sniper view, the commander NVD can be used in binocular view, the driver NVD can only be used in third-person view and driver view, which is accessible by pressing a special key (not set by default).
+Every NVD can only be used from their designated areas: The gunner NVD can only be used from sniper view, the commander NVD can be used in commander sight, the driver NVD can only be used in third-person view and driver view.
 Do note, that "commander view" for tanks represents binoculars (X6) and is same across all tanks as of patch 1.91.

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 ==Work-around methods for improper zoom levels and scopes==
-Sometimes tanks have extremely powerful X16 zoom while utilizing demolition cannon with low-velocity shells or extremely weak zoom (and very bad lenses at that) while utilizing high-velocity APDS or APDSFS. It makes ballistic marks on scope way too cramped or spaced out for comfortable use and in case of early HEAT, shells may make sniper scope unusable. Some, like rocket tanks, do not have ballistic marks at all and leave you all alone with your muscle memory.
+Sometimes tanks have extremely powerful X16 zoom while utilizing demolition cannon with low-velocity shells or extremely weak zoom (and very bad lenses at that) while utilizing high-velocity APDS or APFSDS. It makes ballistic marks on scope way too cramped or spaced out for comfortable use and in case of early HEAT, shells may make sniper scope unusable. Some, like rocket tanks, do not have ballistic marks at all and leave you all alone with your muscle memory.
 [[File:Centurion AVRE cannot aim at the tank.jpg|thumb|left|Clearly, this isn't going to work, and we don't want to fire blindly.]]
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-{{Notice| Zeroing only considers your current shell for a set distance. When you shift the shell to one with different velocity, it will be zeroed to a different distance. For example, if you set gun for HE to 450 meters, the APDSFS at these settings might get launched 2,100 meters away. Keep this in mind for APDS tanks or assign the reset button as well.|!}}
+{{Notice| Zeroing only considers your current shell for a set distance. When you shift the shell to one with different velocity, it will be zeroed to a different distance. For example, if you set gun for HE to 450 meters, the APFSDS at these settings might get launched 2,100 meters away. Keep this in mind for APDS tanks or assign the reset button as well.|!}}
 How to guess how far you need to "adjust" the gun?
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-In Arcade mode gunner always tells you the distance towards the target you are pointing the crosshairs at and with no failure at that, which means you can just zero-in the scope to that exact number and your shell will almost always hit the mark, assuming you researched all the accuracy upgrades. Sometimes, it is much easier, than trying to make out the marks on your sight. For example, on X10 scopes the APDSFS scope does not have a reference number for 1.6 km distance, only the big "mark" representing it, which may be confusing to some players.
+In Arcade mode gunner always tells you the distance towards the target you are pointing the crosshairs at and with no failure at that, which means you can just zero-in the scope to that exact number and your shell will almost always hit the mark, assuming you researched all the accuracy upgrades. Sometimes, it is much easier, than trying to make out the marks on your sight. For example, on X10 scopes the APFSDS scope does not have a reference number for 1.6 km distance, only the big "mark" representing it, which may be confusing to some players.
 [[File:Challenger 2 scope zero in for arcade mode.jpg|thumb|left|This may seem unnecessary, but when the enemy is behind a forest, a house and is very far away, it may actually save your tank.]]

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	To find out the difference between night vision tools and their qualities refer to examples in [[Night Vision Devices\|specific article]]		To find out the difference between night vision tools and their qualities refer to examples in [[Night Vision Devices\|specific article]]
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		+	== Media ==
		+	<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
		+	;Videos
		+	{{Youtube-gallery\|4NPt7dr-fKo\|'''The Shooting Range #256''' - ''Tactics & Strategy'' section at 8:04 discusses commander sights.}}

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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 To find out the difference between night vision tools and their qualities refer to examples in [[Night Vision Devices|specific article]]
 [[Category:Game mechanics]]
 [[Category:Custom articles]]

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 Optics are a device used by vehicle crews to increase the magnification of the enemy being targeted for a more reliable targeting solution. Typically used in specific modes, optics come into play whenever using the sniper scope (gunner position), the commander's binoculars (from commander's cupola) or scope (from wherever the commander might reside).
-When operating the Gunner scope (typically activated by using "sniper aim" via pressing ''shift'' button), objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key ''Z'' or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller.
+When operating the Gunner scope (typically activated by using "sniper aim" via pressing shift button), objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key Z or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller.
-After Rank V the commander scope is available for most (but not all) tanks and are used by pressing "commander scope sight" hotkey. Unfortunately, this button is not set by default. This scope does not have proper gun sight controls, but you can also bind and activate "use commander sight to aim" hotkey to receive an approximation from your gunner. If this function works, then this also means, that if your gunner is knocked out, your commander can take over and fire weapons instead of him. ''Do note that this currently does not help you to aim ATGMs since they will only follow the gunner scope crosshairs of your "currently chosen weapon", even if that's an MG''.
+After Rank V the commander scope is available for most (but not all) tanks and are used by pressing "commander scope sight" hotkey. Unfortunately, this button is not set by default. This scope does not have proper gun sight controls, but you can also bind and activate "use commander sight to aim" hotkey to receive an approximation from your gunner. If this function works, then this also means, that if your gunner is knocked out, your commander can take over and fire weapons instead of him. Do note that this currently does not help you to aim ATGMs since they will only follow the gunner scope crosshairs of your "currently chosen weapon", even if that's an MG.
 When looking at a vehicle in the vehicle garage of War Thunder, vehicles with optics will show their location when looking at the vehicle in X-ray mode. Using the cursor to hover over the optic a pop-up bubble will appear annotating the device as an "optic", some will even have additional information listed in the pop-up bubble. Generally, if the vehicle has more than one set of optics, only one of them will list the zoom levels options and typically this will appear when hovering over the gunner's optics, however, this is not always the case and all optics may have to be checked for more information.
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 {{Notice| Low-velocity shell chemical shells (550 m/s and below) have a tendency to have double the falloff past 1,000 m range, in some cases they start falling off even at 800 m range, so even if you do zero-in the gun, the scope may still fail to tell you where the shell is going to actually land.|!}}
-Try to not set gun adjustment sensitivity too high or too low, or you may end up needing to aim in reverse. Remember, since your gun aims at a distance you set yourself, if someone drives too close to you, you now have to aim '''below''' them:
+Try to not set gun adjustment sensitivity too high or too low, or you may end up needing to aim in reverse. Remember, since your gun aims at a distance you set yourself, if someone drives too close to you, you now have to aim below them:
 [[File:Centurion AVRE Compensating for excessive gun zero-in.jpg|frameless|left]]
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 ===User-made scopes===
 One option in War Thunder is the ability for users to create their own version of crosshairs found within the optics which may better fit with their gameplay style, streamline information presented or recreate a historically accurate representation. As such, default optics can be replaced with custom created systems. Each tank can be modified personally without affecting the rest.
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 The User-made optics quality heavily depends on the diligence of the creator. They share a common trait of being static (being unable to adjust to the changes of ammunition or the gun elevation) and often force the players to use manual gun adjustment at longer range, especially when utilising the default HEAT rounds, so use them at your own risk.
-These changes do not affect zoom levels, gun characteristics or users abilities, they just change out the crosshair targeting application. However, even that much can make a '''huge''' difference to your life quality:
+These changes do not affect zoom levels, gun characteristics or users abilities, they just change out the crosshair targeting application. However, even that much can make a huge difference to your life quality:
 [[File:Type 75 MLRS custom scope in work.jpg|thumb|left|Rocket tank now has a scope and not only it kind of works, but the creator actually cared to add an ability to visibly zero-in the rockets, which makes it very easy to use for the player.]]
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 |}
-In the case where magnification values are not known, values can be listed as "'''X8.3 (estimated)'''" and then a vehicle can be linked in the ''Comparable optics'' area which has optics of a known value which accurately compare to the unknown value optics being tested.
+In the case where magnification values are not known, values can be listed as "'''X8.3 (estimated)'''" and then a vehicle can be linked in the "Comparable optics" area which has optics of a known value which accurately compare to the unknown value optics being tested.
 In the case if tank has [[Night Vision Devices]] it is far more reasonable to use expanded table such as this:

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 == What are optics and where to look for them ==
-Optics are a device used by vehicle crews to increase the magnification of the enemy being targeted for a more reliable targeting solution. Typically used in specific modes, optics come into play whenever using the sniper scope (gunner position) or the commander's binoculars (from commander's cupola).
+Optics are a device used by vehicle crews to increase the magnification of the enemy being targeted for a more reliable targeting solution. Typically used in specific modes, optics come into play whenever using the sniper scope (gunner position), the commander's binoculars (from commander's cupola) or scope (from wherever the commander might reside).
-When operating the Gunner scope, objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key ''Z'' or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller.
+When operating the Gunner scope (typically activated by using "sniper aim" via pressing ''shift'' button), objects are initially seen with the scope set to the minimum zoom setting. To toggle between the minimum and maximum zoom settings, this can be achieved utilising the scrolling mouse wheel, pressing the default "zoom in" key ''Z'' or through any other key mapped specifically for this function on a keyboard, mouse or joystick/throttle controller.
 When looking at a vehicle in the vehicle garage of War Thunder, vehicles with optics will show their location when looking at the vehicle in X-ray mode. Using the cursor to hover over the optic a pop-up bubble will appear annotating the device as an "optic", some will even have additional information listed in the pop-up bubble. Generally, if the vehicle has more than one set of optics, only one of them will list the zoom levels options and typically this will appear when hovering over the gunner's optics, however, this is not always the case and all optics may have to be checked for more information.
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 Several vehicles may not have a zoom range specified, when it comes to these, it is best to take the vehicle out on a training run and choose a fixed object in which to compare the zoom rate in comparison to other vehicles with known zoom rates. This will provide a general range in which to have a better idea of what the optics are capable of during combat manoeuvres.
-Optics themselves can be pivotal in the ability to disable an enemy tank or it can also be an Achilles' heel, especially for super-heavy tanks such as [[IS-7]], in which the viewports where the optics are at providing a very weak point in the armour structure. Although they are extremely hard to target due to their extremely small size, nonetheless they can be hit.
+Optics themselves can be pivotal in the ability to disable an enemy tank or it can also be an Achilles' heel, especially for super-heavy tanks such as [[IS-7]], in which the viewports where the optics are at providing a very weak point in the armour structure. Although they are extremely hard to target due to their extremely small size, nonetheless they can be hit. Optics are also very easy to hit on particular light SPG and tanks (for example, [[Striker]]) and often have less than 10 mm of RHA protection behind them, making them incredibly easy to attack with ammunition that has a high amount of Explosive mass, causing fatal overpressure damage to a tank in question.
-Damage to the optics generally will not affect vehicle or crew gameplay at all, however, the optics will become unusable until they are repaired, which can affect certain vehicles (As an example, [[Warrior]] cannot launch ATGM if commander's optics were destroyed).
+Damage to the optics generally will not affect vehicle or crew gameplay at all, however, the optics will become unusable until they are manually repaired, which can affect certain vehicles (As an example, [[Warrior]] cannot launch ATGM if commander's optics were destroyed).
 == Differences between various optics in game ==
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 Also worth noting, the optics of certain nations and/or vehicles may show vignetting or dark areas around the view area from a scope which limit the amount of area which can be viewed through the scope. As optics developed the vignetting lessened or virtually disappeared allowing for a larger viewing area.
 Commander's binoculars always have about X6 zoom and same lenses across all vehicles.
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 When having problems coordinating the zoom level visually, utilising the compass at the top of the screen may help with the correlation - its size changes accordingly with the zoom level.
 ''Click on an image and browse them with arrow keys/buttons on screenshot sides to make them easier to compare.''
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 </gallery>
-<!--Gallery is still missing potential X14 zoom screenshot from KPZ/MBT 70 and a lot of low-quality scope variations.-->
+<!--Gallery is still missing potential X14 zoom screenshot from KPZ/MBT 70 and a lot of low-quality scope variations. Could also use commander sight as an example, probably X20 one from leopards.-->
 ==Work-around methods for improper zoom levels and scopes==
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 ! Commander's View
-| X6 || 1600 x 1200 || 9.0 || High || Not Fitted || Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" mod (tier 3)
+| X4 - X12 / bino || 1600 x 1200 || 9.0 || High || Not Fitted || Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" mod (tier 3)
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 ! Driver's View

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 If you were comparing optics of a tank to the gallery and are unsure of your measurements, you can specify that below the table.
-Every NVD can only be used from their designated areas: The gunner NVD can only be used from sniper view, the commander NVD can be used in third-person view and binocular view, the driver NVD can only be used in driver view, which is accessible by pressing a special key (not set by default).
+Every NVD can only be used from their designated areas: The gunner NVD can only be used from sniper view, the commander NVD can be used in binocular view, the driver NVD can only be used in third-person view and driver view, which is accessible by pressing a special key (not set by default).
-Do note, that "commander view" for tanks represents both binoculars (X6) and third-person view (X1) and is same across all tanks as of patch 1.91.
+Do note, that "commander view" for tanks represents binoculars (X6) and is same across all tanks as of patch 1.91.
 Sometimes tanks are also fitted with Infrared spotlight. While it's not an optic device itself, it is only visible through night vision tools and can be used to find hostile tanks, thus it should be noted as well since it's a supplementary tool. Information about it can be filled in a small table as such: