Ognevoy - Revision history

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U111069508: /* History */ changed 'ogevnoy guns came straight out of the tashkent' to 'ogevnoy got its guns straight from the tashkent' as this made more grammatical sense

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‎History: changed 'ogevnoy guns came straight out of the tashkent' to 'ogevnoy got its guns straight from the tashkent' as this made more grammatical sense

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a lead ship of the Ognevoy-class destroyers built for the Soviet Navy in 1940s. She was laid down on 20th August 1939 and comissioned on 22nd March 1945. The construction of all Ognevoy-class destroyers was halted due to German attack on Soviet Union. Ognevoy was towed from Nikolayev to Sevastopol between August 13th and 17th 1941. With the advancing German army, Ognevoy recieved a pair of 76 mm guns in single turret as per the design, and then evacuated factory workers and their families. She was towed to Poti and later on to Batumi where sin 1943 she was slowly outfitted. Her main armament turrets were salvaged from the sunk destroyer-leader Tashkent. On 20th April 1944, her outfitting was finished and trials began. She saw no action during WWII. In 1947 she escorted Kirov-class light cruiser Molotov with J.V. Stalin onboard from Yalta to Sochi. On 17th February 1956 she was withdrawn from service and on 13th October 1958 sold for scrap.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the lead ship of the Ognevoy-class destroyers built for the Soviet Navy in the 1940s. She was laid down on 20th August 1939 and commissioned on 22nd March 1945. The construction of all Ognevoy-class destroyers was halted due to the German attack on the Soviet Union. Ognevoy was towed from Nikolayev to Sevastopol between August 13th and 17th 1941. With the advancing German army, Ognevoy received a pair of 76 mm guns in single turret as per the design, and then evacuated factory workers and their families. She was towed to Poti and later on to Batumi where in 1943 she was slowly outfitted. Her main armament turrets were salvaged from the sunk destroyer-leader [[Tashkent]]. On 20th April 1944, her outfitting was finished and trials began. She saw no action during WWII. In 1947 she escorted Kirov-class light cruiser Molotov with J.V. Stalin onboard from Yalta to Sochi. On 17th February 1956, she was withdrawn from service and on 13th October 1958 sold for scrap.
-Ognevoy was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The Ognevoy with her top speed of 68 km/h is on par or slower than contemporary destroyers. She is armed with six 37 mm autocannons providing great short to medium range anti-air and surface to surface protection. Her torpedo armament is made of two triple 533 mm torpedo launchers amidship with quite short ranged yet fast and powerful torpedoes. The 53-39 torpedoes have maximal range of 4 km at 94 km/h while carrying 317 kg of TNT eq warhead. The ship itself have no armour protection except her turrets being protected by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour. The machinery takes more than half of the entire hull lenght making nearly any hit into the hull fatal for boilers or transmission, crippling the Ognevoy´s ability to manoeuver. Her magazines are also located on the waterline making them susceptible to fatal explosion when hit.
+Ognevoy was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The Ognevoy with her top speed of 68 km/h is on par or slower than contemporary destroyers. She is armed with six 37 mm autocannons providing great short to medium range anti-air and surface to surface protection. Her torpedo armament is made of two triple 533 mm torpedo launchers amidship with quite short ranged yet fast and powerful torpedoes. The 53-39 torpedoes have maximal range of 4 km at 94 km/h while carrying 317 kg of TNT eq warhead. The ship itself has no armour protection except her turrets being protected by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour. The machinery takes more than half of the entire hull length making nearly any hit into the hull fatal for boilers or transmission, crippling the Ognevoy's ability to manoeuvre. Her magazines are also located on the waterline making them susceptible to fatal explosion when hit.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a lead ship of the Ognevoy-class destroyers built for the Soviet Navy in 1940s. She was laid down on 20th August 1939 and comissioned on 22nd March 1945. The construction of all Ognevoy-class destroyers was halted due to German attack on Soviet Union. Ognevoy was towed from Nikolayev to Sevastopol between August 13th and 17th 1941. With the advancing German army, Ognevoy recieved a pair of 76 mm guns in single turret as per the design, and then evacuated factory workers and their families. She was towed to Poti and later on to Batumi where sin 1943 she was slowly outfitted. Her main armament turrets were salvaged from the sunk destroyer-leader Tashkent. On 20th April 1944, her outfitting was finished and trials began. She saw no action during WWII. In 1947 she escorted Kirov-class light cruiser Molotov with J.V. Stalin onboard from Yalta to Sochi. On 17th February 1956 she was withdrawn from service and on 13th October 1958 sold for scrap.
 == General info ==

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 While having four guns in two twin mounts is a space-efficient way of getting good firepower, this also results in a distinct vulnerability. Disabling one turret results in a loss of 50% of total firepower, and therefore the firepower of the Ognevoy is in practice inconsistent. The B-13 mounts have very little armour, and do not have exceptional rotation speed.
-Three types of shells are available: HE, SAP, and HE-VT. The HE has a satisfactory filler of 3.58 kg of TNT, and compares favourably to other destroyer-calibre guns. HE is good at disabling other destroyer's guns and exposed weaponry, as well as hull-breaking smaller costal vessels, but does not have enough power to effectively damage internals components. Moreover, HE deals quite poorly with cruisers, so SAP is recommended in most cases. The SAP shell has a good penetration of 183 mm at 1,000 m and a very good explosive mass of 2.35 g of TNT. SAP is adept at destroying internal components such as engines and even ammo racks, and is the quickest way to reduce crew count of an enemy vessel. Moreover, the good penetration of the 130 mm SAP allows the Ognevoy to combat light cruisers if the Ognevoy is placed in an up-tier.
+Three types of shells are available: HE, SAP, and HE-VT. The HE has a satisfactory filler of 3.58 kg of TNT, and compares favourably to other destroyer-calibre guns. HE is good at disabling other destroyer's guns and exposed weaponry, as well as hull-breaking smaller coastal vessels, but does not have enough power to effectively damage internals components. Moreover, HE deals quite poorly with cruisers, so SAP is recommended in most cases. The SAP shell has a good penetration of 183 mm at 1,000 m and a very good explosive mass of 2.35 g of TNT. SAP is adept at destroying internal components such as engines and even ammo racks, and is the quickest way to reduce crew count of an enemy vessel. Moreover, the good penetration of the 130 mm SAP allows the Ognevoy to combat light cruisers if the Ognevoy is placed in an up-tier.
 {{:B-13 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OF-46 HE, 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC, 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT}}

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 Three types of shells are available: HE, SAP, and HE-VT. The HE has a satisfactory filler of 3.58 kg of TNT, and compares favourably to other destroyer-calibre guns. HE is good at disabling other destroyer's guns and exposed weaponry, as well as hull-breaking smaller costal vessels, but does not have enough power to effectively damage internals components. Moreover, HE deals quite poorly with cruisers, so SAP is recommended in most cases. The SAP shell has a good penetration of 183 mm at 1,000 m and a very good explosive mass of 2.35 g of TNT. SAP is adept at destroying internal components such as engines and even ammo racks, and is the quickest way to reduce crew count of an enemy vessel. Moreover, the good penetration of the 130 mm SAP allows the Ognevoy to combat light cruisers if the Ognevoy is placed in an up-tier.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:B-13 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm OF-46 HE, 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC, 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 There is only one twin 76 mm 39-K turret, located behind the second rangefinder. Performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns. However, the mount has good elevation and can supplement the 37 mm autocannons in anti-aircraft fire. Therefore, the HE-TF shell is recommended over other shell types.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+{{:39-K (76 mm)/Ammunition|76 mm O-361K, 76 mm O-361D, 76 mm BR-361}}
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 Although the Pr. 30 may be a bit slower than Frunze (38 kts vs 48 kts), you will notice better rudder performance.
-{{NavalMobility}}
+{{NavalMobility
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 ! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-| 76 mm O-361K || HE || 845 || 6.95 || 0 s || 0.1 || 483 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| 76 mm O-361K || HE || 845 || 6.95 || 0 || 0.1 || 483 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-| 76 mm O-361D || HE-TF || 810 || 6.61|| 0 s || 0.1 || 182 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| 76 mm O-361D || HE-TF || 810 || 6.61|| 0 || 0.1 || 182 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-| 76 mm BR-361 || APHEBC || 816 || 6.5 || 1.6 m || 4 || 119 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| 76 mm BR-361 || APHEBC || 816 || 6.5 || 1.6 || 4 || 119 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
 |}

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	There is only one twin 76 mm 39-K turret, located behind the second rangefinder. Performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns. However, the mount has good elevation and can supplement the 37 mm autocannons in anti-aircraft fire. Therefore, the HE-TF shell is recommended over other shell types.		There is only one twin 76 mm 39-K turret, located behind the second rangefinder. Performance is mediocre against surface targets due to low number of guns. However, the mount has good elevation and can supplement the 37 mm autocannons in anti-aircraft fire. Therefore, the HE-TF shell is recommended over other shell types.
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="8" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 100 m !! 1,000 m !! 2,000 m !! 3,000 m !! 4,000 m !! 5,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm O-361K \|\| HE \|\| 8 \|\| 8 \|\| 8 \|\| 8 \|\| 8 \|\| 8
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm O-361D \|\| HE-TF \|\| 5 \|\| 5 \|\| 5 \|\| 5 \|\| 5 \|\| 5
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm BR-361 \|\| APHEBC \|\| 121 \|\| 100 \|\| 81 \|\| 65 \|\| 53 \|\| 43
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm O-361K \|\| HE \|\| 845 \|\| 6.95 \|\| 0 s \|\| 0.1 \|\| 483 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm O-361D \|\| HE-TF \|\| 810 \|\| 6.61\|\| 0 s \|\| 0.1 \|\| 182 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 76 mm BR-361 \|\| APHEBC \|\| 816 \|\| 6.5 \|\| 1.6 m \|\| 4 \|\| 119 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Anti-aircraft armament ===		=== Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 |-
 |}
 {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 ! colspan="10" | Shell details
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 | 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC || SAPCBC || 870 || 33.5 || 0.01 || 6 || 2.35 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-| 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT || HE-VT || 870 || 33.8 || 0 || 0.1 || 2.06 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+|}
 |-
 |}

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	Three types of shells are available: HE, SAP, and HE-VT. The HE has a satisfactory filler of 3.58 kg of TNT, and compares favourably to other destroyer-calibre guns. HE is good at disabling other destroyer's guns and exposed weaponry, as well as hull-breaking smaller costal vessels, but does not have enough power to effectively damage internals components. Moreover, HE deals quite poorly with cruisers, so SAP is recommended in most cases. The SAP shell has a good penetration of 183 mm at 1,000 m and a very good explosive mass of 2.35 g of TNT. SAP is adept at destroying internal components such as engines and even ammo racks, and is the quickest way to reduce crew count of an enemy vessel. Moreover, the good penetration of the 130 mm SAP allows the Ognevoy to combat light cruisers if the Ognevoy is placed in an up-tier.		Three types of shells are available: HE, SAP, and HE-VT. The HE has a satisfactory filler of 3.58 kg of TNT, and compares favourably to other destroyer-calibre guns. HE is good at disabling other destroyer's guns and exposed weaponry, as well as hull-breaking smaller costal vessels, but does not have enough power to effectively damage internals components. Moreover, HE deals quite poorly with cruisers, so SAP is recommended in most cases. The SAP shell has a good penetration of 183 mm at 1,000 m and a very good explosive mass of 2.35 g of TNT. SAP is adept at destroying internal components such as engines and even ammo racks, and is the quickest way to reduce crew count of an enemy vessel. Moreover, the good penetration of the 130 mm SAP allows the Ognevoy to combat light cruisers if the Ognevoy is placed in an up-tier.
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="8" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm OF-46 HE \|\| HE \|\| 36 \|\| 36 \|\| 36 \|\| 36 \|\| 36 \|\| 36
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC \|\| SAPCBC \|\| 181 \|\| 156 \|\| 122 \|\| 96 \|\| 77 \|\| 56
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT \|\| HE-VT \|\| 26 \|\| 26 \|\| 26 \|\| 26 \|\| 26 \|\| 26
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm OF-46 HE \|\| HE \|\| 870 \|\| 33.4 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 3.58 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm PB-46A SAPBC \|\| SAPCBC \|\| 870 \|\| 33.5 \|\| 0.01 \|\| 6 \|\| 2.35 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 130 mm ZS-46R HE-VT \|\| HE-VT \|\| 870 \|\| 33.8 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 2.06 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Secondary armament ===		=== Secondary armament ===

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 == History ==
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-Interestingly enough, there is not that much known about this ship. This class of ships was intended to be an improvement over the Project 7 and Project 7U destroyers. Ognevoy guns came straight out of the Tashkent Destroyer when the ship was salvaged. Only two ships were constructed before and during WW2, while the rest was were completed following the war. The Pr. 30 Ognevoy made the way for the Skoryy-class of destroyers. The combat record of Ognevoy itself is unknown, but some sources indicate that it served to its full potential.
+Interestingly enough, there is not that much known about this ship. This class of ships was intended to be an improvement over the Project 7 and Project 7U destroyers. Ognevoy got its guns straight from the Tashkent Destroyer when the ship was salvaged. Only two ships were constructed before and during WW2, while the rest was were completed following the war. The Pr. 30 Ognevoy made the way for the Skoryy-class of destroyers. The combat record of Ognevoy itself is unknown, but some sources indicate that it served to its full potential.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_destroyer_pr30_ognevoy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[Pr.30 (Family)]]