Mystere IVA - Revision history

U28580205 at 03:41, 20 January 2024

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U120313908: /* Description / Updated to new description / History */ Expanded section

2023-12-23T04:35:52Z

‎Description: Updated to new description ‎History: Expanded section

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

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‎Suspended armament: Updated

U35208026: It is not at all slow compared to its peers. Its straight line top speed is among the highest at 8.7. It is faster than Sabres and Mig-15bis and Mig-17. It's just that its acceleration isn't the greatest.

2022-10-31T04:40:51Z

It is not at all slow compared to its peers. Its straight line top speed is among the highest at 8.7. It is faster than Sabres and Mig-15bis and Mig-17. It's just that its acceleration isn't the greatest.

U2221006: /* Pros and cons */

2022-10-13T14:33:56Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265 at 14:42, 30 January 2022

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Edits

U28580205 at 19:31, 31 December 2021

2021-12-31T19:31:39Z

U74725892: edited pros and cons

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 == Description ==
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 The Mystere IVA was a major milestone for France in their process to upgrade their Air Force to a global power status. The Mystere IV was the first aircraft capable of transonic speeds in service with the French Air Force. Based upon the lessons learned from the Mystere II, it had very important upgrades in avionics and aerodynamics, helping the aircraft reach the desired speeds. The first 50 Mystere IVA production aircraft were powered by British Rolls-Royce Tay turbojets, while the remainder had the French-built Hispano-Suiza Verdon 350 version of that engine. In total, France operated 6 squadrons of Mystere IVs, most of which were purchased under a United States Offshore Procurement contract.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' follows a similar principle to delta wing fighters in War Thunder, it has a good top speed and relatively good engine, as well as good agility for dogfights, good high speed handling and excellent AOA (angle of attack) but it also means that it loses speed very quickly in sharp turns and other manoeuvres of the kind. Is armed with a pair of 2 x DEFA 30mm cannons, that have easy to learn ballistics and good damage output, but lack the fire rate of other cannons such as the Colt 20mm cannons or 12.7mm Browning HMGs found in many American fighters. The aircraft should avoid prolonged fights at all costs, using its good agility at high speeds to quickly point your gun at the enemy, and then maintain a steady course to regain the lost speed.
+Introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' follows a similar principle to delta wing fighters in War Thunder. It has a good top speed and relatively good engine, as well as good agility for dogfights, good high speed handling and excellent AOA (angle of attack) but it also means that it loses speed very quickly in sharp turns and other manoeuvres of the kind. It is armed with a pair of 30 mm DEFA cannons that have easy to learn ballistics and good damage output, but lack the fire rate of other cannons such as the Colt 20 mm cannons or 12.7 mm Browning HMGs found in many American fighters. The aircraft should avoid prolonged fights at all costs, using its good agility at high speeds to quickly point your gun at the enemy, and then maintain a steady course to regain the lost speed.
 == General info ==
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-In air realistic battles, the Mystere is a very deadly aircraft in the hands of a good pilot.
 Due to its very bad energy retention in manoeuvres, it is best used in more of a "boom and zoom" role, where it dives on unsuspecting enemies and delivers a quick death with the lethal 30 mm cannons. If forced to engage another aircraft that the Mystere is unable to escape, it performs best enacting a reversal, as the very good roll rate and poor energy retention will make it easy to make other aircraft overshoot. This is especially effective against MiG-15s and 17s, who will easily win a sustained turn-fight, but will have a hard time getting guns on target. Against more agile American aircraft, it is recommended to lure the plane as close as possible due to the poor speed. The majority of aircraft will easily be able to extend away after overshooting, so it is vital to equalize your energy states as much as possible, and be as close as possible for a firing solution once the enemy overshoots.
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 '''Development'''
-The aircraft itself was based upon the Mystere II rather that in the Mystere III, however the similarities ended with the airframe and the fuselage. The new aircraft was designed to reach high speeds capable of matching the Soviet Mig-15/17s and American F-86s Sabres that started to become more and more frequent. This included improvements to the aircrafts aerodynamic design, with a more aggressive swept wing design and redesigned nose, as well as improvements to the avionics, navigation equipment and the introduction of a more powerful Hispano-Suiza Verdon 350 turbojet engine, although the first 50 units of the Mystere IVA used British Rolls-Royce Tay turbojets instead.
+The aircraft itself was based upon the Mystere II rather than in the Mystere III, however the similarities ended with the airframe and the fuselage. The new aircraft was designed to reach high speeds capable of matching the Soviet MiG-15/17s and American F-86s Sabres that started to become more and more frequent. This included improvements to the aircrafts aerodynamic design, with a more aggressive swept wing design and redesigned nose, as well as improvements to the avionics, navigation equipment and the introduction of a more powerful Hispano-Suiza Verdon 350 turbojet engine, although the first 50 units of the Mystere IVA used British Rolls-Royce Tay turbojets instead.
 '''Service History'''
-''France'': It operated at its peak, 6 squadrons of this fighter, most of the fighters were acquired by the US under an Offshore Procurement contract, when said contract ended, most of the fighters were retired to the United States, however in 1953 the US procured another contract, for France to operate a total of 227 Mystere IVs. The aircraft participated in the Suez Crisis of 1956 with the French Air Force.
+* ''France'': It operated, at its peak, six squadrons of this fighter. Most of the fighters were acquired by the US under an Offshore Procurement contract, when said contract ended, most of the fighters were retired to the United States, however in 1953 the US procured another contract for France to operate a total of 227 Mystere IVs. The aircraft participated in the Suez Crisis of 1956 with the French Air Force.
+* ''Israel'': Originally intending to acquire Mystere IIs, Israel changed its order to 24 Mystère IVs in 1955, which were delivered from April to June 1956, equipping 101 Squadron. A further 36 were delivered in August 1956, with a final aircraft, equipped for reconnaissance duties, delivered in September 1956. The aircraft participated in the Suez Crisis with the IDF for both air and ground attack duties, the Mysteres managed to score several kills against enemy MiG-15s, Mig-17s, Vampires with only a single aircraft lost, due to AA fire. It also participated in the Six Days War of 1967, when it was being considered retiring it in favour of the A-4 Skyhawk, in this war it was relegated to only ground attack missions due to its old age. It claimed three kills at the cost of 7 Mystere IVAs lost, 5 to AA fire and 2 due to enemy fighters.
-''Israel'': Originally intending to acquire Mystere IIs, Israel changed its order to 24 Mystère IVs in 1955, which were delivered from April to June 1956, equipping 101 Squadron. A further 36 were delivered in August 1956, with a final aircraft, equipped for reconnaissance duties, delivered in September 1956. The aircraft participated in the Suez Crisis with the IDF for both air and ground attack duties, the Mysteres managed to score several kills against enemy Mig-15s, Mig-17s, Vampires with only a single aircraft lost, due to AA fire. It also participated in the Six Days War of 1967, when it was being considered retiring it in favour of the A-4 Skyhawk, in this war it was relegated to only ground attack missions due to its old age. It claimed 3 kills at the cost of 7 Mystere IVAs lost, 5 to AA fire and 2 due to enemy fighters.
+* ''India'': India procured a large number of Mystere IVs during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 and some were also used in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. The Mystere IVs from India were vastly outmatched, facing much more modern F-104 Starfighters, thus most of their actions were in raids against enemy airbases, destroying several F-104s, F-86s and cargo aircrafts in the ground, and doing close air support missions. While it was being retired after the end of the war, some were still in service in 1971, participating but just in a minor role, at the end all fighters were retired in 1973.
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].
+The Mystere IVA was a major milestone for France in their process to upgrade their Air Force to a global power status. The Mystere IV was the first aircraft capable of transonic speeds in service with the French Air Force. Based upon the lessons learned from the Mystere II, it had very important upgrades in avionics and aerodynamics, helping the aircraft reach the desired speeds. The first 50 Mystere IVA production aircraft were powered by British Rolls-Royce Tay turbojets, while the remainder had the French-built Hispano-Suiza Verdon 350 version of that engine. In total, France operated 6 squadrons of Mystere IVs, most of which were purchased under a United States Offshore Procurement contract.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles
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-The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few de Havilland Vampires.
+The '''Dassault MD.454 Mystère IV''' was developed in the 1950s, as France's first transonic fighter in service. The aircraft had a very similar appearence to other Dassualt designs of the time, like the Ouragan, Mystere II and the Mystere III, however the Mystere IV was a newer design, much more improved over its predecessors, that solidified France as a major weapons manufacturer in the global market.
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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
 * 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
 * 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
+{{Navigation-End}}
 The Mystere has access to incredibly powerful rocket armaments. The heavy duty T10 151 rockets perform similarly to US HVARs, being rather slow, but deadly upon direct hit. They are very effective when attacking heavy tanks, as well as pillboxes, displaying 390 mm of penetration at a 30 degree angle. The other option is the high velocity SNEB type 23, which is effective for attacking medium tanks and MBT's, as well as light pillboxes. There is an option to have the SNEBs be mounted inside the fuselage, which will cause them to be launched 5 at a time just under the nose of the plane, for increased accuracy.
-The AA.20 Nord air-to-air missiles are manually guided and not very agile, so they are best used against slow moving targets with a steady heading like Tu-4s. They are also very effective in head-on engagements with practice from the user.
+The AA-20 Nord air-to-air missiles are manually guided and not very agile, so they are best used against slow moving targets with a steady heading like Tu-4s. They are also very effective in head-on engagements with practice from the user.
 == Usage in battles ==

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 * Mediocre energy retention and sustained turn
 * Bad acceleration
 * Compresses at high speeds

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 '''Cons:'''
-* Very bad energy retention and sustained turn
+* Mediocre energy retention and sustained turn
 * Relatively slow compared to peers
 * Compresses at high speeds
 * Slow muzzle velocity for the 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons

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 * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
-The guns, while deadly if they hit, have slow velocity, so it is important to get close to targets to ensure a hit. The armor-piercing shells are also very effective for taking out pillboxes, so while grinding out modifications keep in mind that extra points can be easily gained by shooting down a few light pillboxes. They can also penetrate the roof of most MBT's, so it is possible to destroy high level tanks in mixed battles when attacking from directly above purely with the guns.
+The guns, while deadly if they hit, have slow velocity, so it is important to get close to targets to ensure a hit. The armour-piercing shells are also very effective for taking out pillboxes, so while grinding out modifications keep in mind that extra points can be easily gained by shooting down a few light pillboxes. They can also penetrate the roof of most MBT's, so it is possible to destroy high level tanks in mixed battles when attacking from directly above purely with the guns.
 === Suspended armament ===
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 The Mystere has access to incredibly powerful rocket armaments. The heavy duty T10 151 rockets perform similarly to US HVARs, being rather slow, but deadly upon direct hit. They are very effective when attacking heavy tanks, as well as pillboxes, displaying 390 mm of penetration at a 30 degree angle. The other option is the high velocity SNEB type 23, which is effective for attacking medium tanks and MBT's, as well as light pillboxes. There is an option to have the SNEBs be mounted inside the fuselage, which will cause them to be launched 5 at a time just under the nose of the plane, for increased accuracy.
 The AA.20 Nord air-to-air missiles are manually guided and not very agile, so they are best used against slow moving targets with a steady heading like Tu-4s. They are also very effective in head-on engagements with practice from the user.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 In air realistic battles, the Mystere is a very deadly aircraft in the hands of a good pilot.
-Due to its very bad energy retention in maneuvers, it is best used in more of a "boom and zoom" role, where it dives on unsuspecting enemies and delivers a quick death with the lethal 30 mm cannons. If forced to engage another aircraft that the Mystere is unable to escape, it performs best enacting a reversal, as the very good roll rate and poor energy retention will make it easy to make other aircraft overshoot. This is especially effective against MiG-15s and 17s, who will easily win a sustained turn-fight, but will have a hard time getting guns on target. Against more agile American aircraft, it is recommended to lure the plane as close as possible due to the poor speed. The majority of aircraft will easily be able to extend away after overshooting, so it is vital to equalize your energy states as much as possible, and be as close as possible for a firing solution once the enemy overshoots.
+Due to its very bad energy retention in manoeuvres, it is best used in more of a "boom and zoom" role, where it dives on unsuspecting enemies and delivers a quick death with the lethal 30 mm cannons. If forced to engage another aircraft that the Mystere is unable to escape, it performs best enacting a reversal, as the very good roll rate and poor energy retention will make it easy to make other aircraft overshoot. This is especially effective against MiG-15s and 17s, who will easily win a sustained turn-fight, but will have a hard time getting guns on target. Against more agile American aircraft, it is recommended to lure the plane as close as possible due to the poor speed. The majority of aircraft will easily be able to extend away after overshooting, so it is vital to equalize your energy states as much as possible, and be as close as possible for a firing solution once the enemy overshoots.
 === Radars ===
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 * 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons are fast firing
-* Able to execute very high G and angle-of-attack maneuvers
+* Able to execute very high G and angle-of-attack manoeuvres
 * Excellent roll rate
 * Good flaps
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-The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few De Havilland Vampires.
+The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few de Havilland Vampires.
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