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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938 (138.6 mm)}}
''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938 (138.6 mm)/Ammunition|138.6 mm OEA Mle 1932 HE, 138.6 mm OPFA Mle 1924}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)}}
''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

{{:37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)/Ammunition|37 mm OEA Mle 1925}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|Hotchkiss (13.2 mm)}}
''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|Model 1923DT (550 mm)}}
''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{France destroyers}}

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 {{main|37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)}}
-Mogador has a twin 37 mm manually loaded secondary gun. The 37 mm gun can elevate to 80°, though it lacks variable time fuze ammunition; the only ammunition avaliable is an HE shell with 50 grams of TNT. This secondary armament can only discourage torpedo boat attacks, and even if a boat decides to assault Mogador, the 37 mm will take several shots to kill even the smallest boat.
+Mogador has a twin 37 mm manually loaded secondary gun. The 37 mm gun can elevate to 80°, though it lacks variable time fuse ammunition; the only ammunition available is an HE shell with 50 grams of TNT. This secondary armament can only discourage torpedo boat attacks, and even if a boat decides to assault Mogador, the 37 mm will take several shots to kill even the smallest boat.
 {{:37 mm/50 model 1933 (37 mm)/Ammunition|37 mm OEA Mle 1925}}
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 In close-quarters brawls, Mogador may struggle to compete with the rapid-fire gun armaments of some other destroyers. Her large size and vulnerable crew also make her a relatively easy target. While her heavy burst damage can easily ammo rack destroyers, players should carefully pick their engagements and avoid getting caught in slugging matches with similar-tier destroyers.
 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 * Excellent top speed, allowing quick redeployment and flanking manoeuvres
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 * Good torpedo armament with flexible launchers
 * Excellent firing arc on the superfiring rear turret
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Large size makes the Mogador an easy target
 * Difficulty reliably penetrating the armour of some cruisers with the SAP shells
 == History ==

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	The turrets also have good firing angles. Notably, the superfiring aft turret has full 360° rotation, allowing even steep angles to have three out of four turrets on target. Moreover, the 360° rotation allows Mogador to switch sides when firing with only a very small delay. The guns and turrets have good handling as well, with adequate, if not outstanding elevation and traverse rates. The elevation angles of the guns are similarly decent. The main guns cannot elevate high enough for anti-aircraft duty, but this is understandable since there is no anti-aircraft shell available for the 138.6 mm guns.		The turrets also have good firing angles. Notably, the superfiring aft turret has full 360° rotation, allowing even steep angles to have three out of four turrets on target. Moreover, the 360° rotation allows Mogador to switch sides when firing with only a very small delay. The guns and turrets have good handling as well, with adequate, if not outstanding elevation and traverse rates. The elevation angles of the guns are similarly decent. The main guns cannot elevate high enough for anti-aircraft duty, but this is understandable since there is no anti-aircraft shell available for the 138.6 mm guns.
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		+	{{:138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938 (138.6 mm)/Ammunition\|138.6 mm OEA Mle 1932 HE, 138.6 mm OPFA Mle 1924}}

	=== Secondary armament ===		=== Secondary armament ===

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''Mogador''' was a peak of the French contre-torpilleur destroyer design before the Second World War, featuring an exceptional combination of speed and armament. Launched in the June 1937, she reached the record top speed of 43.45 knots during the sea trials. In October 1939, Mogador took part in Atlantic operations as part of the ''Force de Raid'', safeguarding against German convoy raiders. On 3 July 1940, while stationed at Mers-el-Kébir, she became a victim during the Operation Catapult, where after French refused the ultimatum, British opened fire and hit Mogador with a 15-inch shell obliterating her stern. Vichy France undertook an extensive repairs and a significant refit, but the progress was slowed down by the material shortages. Ultimately, to prevent her capture by German forces, Mogador was scuttled at Toulon on 27 November 1942 and after eventual refloading - scrapped in 1949.
+The '''Mogador''' was the peak of the French contre-torpilleur destroyer design before the Second World War, featuring an exceptional combination of speed and armament. Launched in June 1937, she reached a record top speed of 43.45 knots during sea trials. In October 1939, Mogador took part in Atlantic operations as part of the ''Force de Raid'', safeguarding against German convoy raiders. On 3 July 1940, while stationed at Mers-el-Kébir, she became a victim during Operation Catapult. After the French refused the ultimatum, the British opened fire and hit Mogador with a 15-inch shell, obliterating her stern. Vichy France undertook extensive repairs and a significant refit, but progress was slowed down by material shortages. Ultimately, to prevent her capture by German forces, Mogador was scuttled at Toulon on 27 November 1942. After eventual refloating, she was scrapped in 1949.
-'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a French destroyer introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]]. She features excellent mobility, main armament and torpedoes, but has very poor anti-air and anti-boat defences for the BR, making her a relatively easy and attractive target for a number of typically unexpected enemies.
+Introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]], '''{{Specs|name}}''' features excellent mobility, main armament and torpedoes, but has very poor anti-air and anti-boat defences for her BR, making her a relatively easy and attractive target for a number of typically unexpected enemies.
 == General info ==
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 On 3 July 1940, Mogador was stationed at Mers-el-Kébir in Algeria when the British Royal Navy launched Operation Catapult, aiming to neutralise the French fleet to prevent it from falling into German hands. During the surprise attack by Force H, Mogador attempted to sortie but was struck by a 15-inch shell from [[HMS Hood]]. The shell hit her stern, detonating her depth charges and blowing off the aft section of the ship. Despite losing her stern and suffering 42 casualties, the crew managed to prevent her from sinking by running her aground.
-Following the attack, Mogador was towed to Toulon for repairs. During the 1940 refit, her destroyed fourth turret was removed, and the third turret was relocated to its position. The vacant space left by the third turret was utilised to enhance her anti-aircraft capabilities with the installation of two twin 37 mm anti-aircraft guns. These modifications reflected the increasing importance of anti-aircraft defence during the war. However, Mogador's service was cut short when she was scuttled at Toulon on 27 November 1942, along with much of the French fleet, to prevent her capture by German forces. She was later refloated by Italians on 5 April 1943, damaged by an allied bomb on 29 April, then again on 4 May 1944. She was ordered to be beached at Brégaillon and remaind there until 1949, when she was refloated for breaking up.
+Following the attack, Mogador was towed to Toulon for repairs. During the 1940 refit, her destroyed fourth turret was removed, and the third turret was relocated to its position. The vacant space left by the third turret was utilised to enhance her anti-aircraft capabilities with the installation of two twin 37 mm anti-aircraft guns. These modifications reflected the increasing importance of anti-aircraft defence during the war. However, Mogador's service was cut short when she was scuttled at Toulon on 27 November 1942, along with much of the French fleet, to prevent her capture by German forces. She was later refloated by Italians on 5 April 1943, damaged by an Allied bomb on 29 April, then again on 4 May 1944. She was ordered to be beached at Brégaillon and remained there until 1949, when she was refloated for breaking up.
 == Media ==

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		+	{{ShipManufacturer Arsenal de Lorient}}
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]].
+The '''Mogador''' was a peak of the French contre-torpilleur destroyer design before the Second World War, featuring an exceptional combination of speed and armament. Launched in the June 1937, she reached the record top speed of 43.45 knots during the sea trials. In October 1939, Mogador took part in Atlantic operations as part of the ''Force de Raid'', safeguarding against German convoy raiders. On 3 July 1940, while stationed at Mers-el-Kébir, she became a victim during the Operation Catapult, where after French refused the ultimatum, British opened fire and hit Mogador with a 15-inch shell obliterating her stern. Vichy France undertook an extensive repairs and a significant refit, but the progress was slowed down by the material shortages. Ultimately, to prevent her capture by German forces, Mogador was scuttled at Toulon on 27 November 1942 and after eventual refloading - scrapped in 1949.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+The Mogador was the lead ship of the French Mogador-class contre-torpilleurs, representing the pinnacle of the French "super-destroyer" concept of the late 1930s. Built under the 1932 and 1934 naval programmes, she was designed to outgun and outrun any potential adversary, boasting an unprecedented combination of speed and firepower unmatched by foreign contemporaries. Laid down on 28 October 1935 and launched on 9 June 1937, Mogador was commissioned into the Marine Nationale in 1939. On trials, she achieved a remarkable speed of nearly 44 knots, making her one of the fastest destroyers of her time.
 == Media ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
-''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+* [[wikipedia:French destroyer Mogador|[Wikipedia] French destroyer Mogador]]
-* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+* [[wikipedia:Mogador-class destroyer|[Wikipedia] Mogador-class destroyer]]
-* ''other literature.''
+* [https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/6051.html <nowiki>[uboat.net]</nowiki> FR Mogador - Large destroyer of the Mogador class]
 {{ShipManufacturer Arsenal de Lorient}}
 {{France destroyers}}