MiG-21bis (Sweden) - Revision history

U152778883: Removed outdated and useless information.

2024-11-12T14:50:43Z

Removed outdated and useless information.

U12017485: /* Pros and cons */ Unified with MiG-21bis

2024-11-06T17:09:43Z

‎Pros and cons: Unified with MiG-21bis

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2024-04-26T18:40:35Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U38088265: /* Armaments */

2024-03-16T13:31:19Z

‎Armaments

U38088265 at 09:40, 11 October 2023

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U81436767: /* Description */

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‎Description

U81436767: /* Description */ New Description Project

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‎Description: New Description Project

U22067555: /* External links */ Added manufacturer template

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‎External links: Added manufacturer template

U3808110: /* Description */ Add a summary of differences with the Russian tech tree version.

2023-09-19T21:44:17Z

‎Description: Add a summary of differences with the Russian tech tree version.

U8415416: Added engine performance

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Added engine performance

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 1 x 820 l drop tank
 * 1 x 820 l drop tank + 2 x R-60MK missiles
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 * [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|F-4 Phantoms]], particularly those with PD radars: these should be the MiG-21bis' priority targets, F-4s are well-known for being extremely versatile and dangerous. These planes accelerate quickly and wield dangerous AIM-7 SARH missiles that can shut down the MiG-21's climbing efforts. While the F-4E variant can be relatively easily countered with chaff to interfere the radar, the ones with PD radars like the F-4J and F-4S can easily track and destroy the MiG-21, requiring notching to break off the radar lock. These planes also have a large number of countermeasures, so the MiG-21's effort to attack them with IR missiles can be easily thwarted. At closer ranges, the fight is more even, as the F-4's Sidewinder missiles can be diverted with countermeasures (though beware if it is a F-4 equipped with the all-aspect AIM-9L Sidewinder missile) However, the dogfight can still be tough if the F-4 has the right pilot playing to its strengths, so be wary and don't assume the MiG-21 has control of the dogfight until the MiG-21's nose is pointed right at the target's six o' clock.
 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
-* Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s, making this plane the second-best top-rank climber behind the [[F-104S]] and above the Phantom FGR.2 and FG.1
+* Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s
-* Huge thrust to weight ratio and increased flight performance compared to earlier [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]]s thanks to an improved engine
+* Excels against both aerial and ground targets
 * Has access to flares that are fired downwards, which means that missiles can be more easily evaded
-* Excels against both aerial and ground targets
+* Stunning acceleration
 '''Cons:'''
-* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns, making it very tricky to retain energy in dogfights
+* As all MiG-21s, it tends to bleed speed in turns, though not as much, thanks to the improved engine
 * Pretty bad low speed manoeuvrability
 * Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
 == History ==

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 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
-* Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s
+* Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s, making this plane the second-best top-rank climber behind the [[F-104S]] and above the Phantom FGR.2 and FG.1
-* Increased flight performance compared to earlier MiG-21s
+* Huge thrust to weight ratio and increased flight performance compared to earlier [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]]s thanks to an improved engine
 * Excels against both aerial and ground targets
 '''Cons:'''
-* As all MiG-21s, it tends to bleed speed in turns, though not as much, thanks to the improved engine
+* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns, making it very tricky to retain energy in dogfights
 * Pretty bad low speed manoeuvrability
 * Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
 == History ==

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 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 1 x 820 l drop tank
-* 1 x 820 l drop tank + 2 x R-13M1 missiles
+* 1 x 820 l drop tank + 2 x R-60MK missiles
 * 1 x 820 l drop tank + 2 x R-3S missiles
 * 4 x R-3R missiles

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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
-* A choice between two presets:
+* 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (250 rpg)
-** 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (250 rpg)
+* 64 x countermeasures
 === Suspended armament ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-! !! width="11%" | 1 !! width="11%" | 2 !! width="11%" | 3 !! width="11%" | 4
+! !! width="9%" | 1 !! width="9%" | 2 !! width="9%" | 3 !! width="9%" | 4 !! width="9%" | 5
-| rowspan="6" width="25%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_MiG-21bis.png]]</div>
+| rowspan="7" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_MiG-21bis.png]]</div>
 |-
-! S-5K rockets
+! [[S-5K]] rockets
-| 16 || 16, 32 || 16, 32 || 16
+| 16 || 16, 32 || || 16, 32 || 16
 |-
-! R-3R missiles
+! [[R-3R]] missiles
-| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
+| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
-! R-3S missiles
+! [[R-3S]] missiles
-| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
+| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
-! R-13M1 missiles
+! [[R-13M1]] missiles
-| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
+| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
-! R-60MK missiles
+! [[R-60MK]] missiles
-| 1, 2 || 1 || 1 || 1, 2
+| 1, 2 || 1 || || 1 || 1, 2
 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->In 1963, after rejecting a deal of MiG-19s in search for a new frontline fighter, Finland became the first country outside the Warsaw Pact to purchase the MiG-21, starting with [[MiG-21F-13]]<nowiki/>s and building their long and prosperous releationship in purchasing Soviet aircraft. Their long service of the Fishbed would culminate in 1977, when Finland acquired 26 examples of the [[MiG-21bis]] airframe, specifically the Fishbed-N variant with the Polyot-OI guidance system instead of the Lazur system. These aircraft would remain in Finnish service until 1998, when they were replaced by the F/A-18C Hornet after the end of the cold war.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO Code: Fishbed-N), introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]] at the time as an end-of-the-line top tier aircraft for the then new Finland sub-tree in the Swedish tech tree. This aircraft is completely identical to the [[MiG-21bis]] found in the Soviet tech tree, and as such, plays exactly the same. The only differences are cosmetic, such as the camoflauge and the names used on its missiles (i.e it has the export [[R-60MK]] instead of the [[R-60M]], which is the exact same missile with a different name). Due to being a literal 1:1 copy of the Soviet MiG-21Bis, the same tips and cautions should be exersized when flying this aircraft; chief of which being the incredible AoA/instanteous turn and engine acceleration power to utilize, while being cautious of the weak energy retention and subpar missiles compared to many of your adversaries at this battle rating.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO Code: Fishbed-N) was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. This aircraft is completely identical to the [[MiG-21bis]] found in the Soviet tech tree, and as such, plays exactly the same. The only differences are cosmetic, such as the camouflage and the names used on its missiles (i.e it has the export [[R-60MK]] instead of the [[R-60M]], which is the exact same missile with a different name). The same tips and cautions should be exercised when flying this aircraft; chief of which being the incredible AoA/instantaneous turn and engine acceleration power to utilize, while being cautious of the weak energy retention and subpar missiles compared to many of your adversaries at this battle rating.
 == General info ==
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 * [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|F-4 Phantoms]], particularly those with PD radars: these should be the MiG-21bis' priority targets, F-4s are well-known for being extremely versatile and dangerous. These planes accelerate quickly and wield dangerous AIM-7 SARH missiles that can shut down the MiG-21's climbing efforts. While the F-4E variant can be relatively easily countered with chaff to interfere the radar, the ones with PD radars like the F-4J and F-4S can easily track and destroy the MiG-21, requiring notching to break off the radar lock. These planes also have a large number of countermeasures, so the MiG-21's effort to attack them with IR missiles can be easily thwarted. At closer ranges, the fight is more even, as the F-4's Sidewinder missiles can be diverted with countermeasures (though beware if it is a F-4 equipped with the all-aspect AIM-9L Sidewinder missile) However, the dogfight can still be tough if the F-4 has the right pilot playing to its strengths, so be wary and don't assume the MiG-21 has control of the dogfight until the MiG-21's nose is pointed right at the target's six o' clock.
 * [[F-14A Early]]: The F-14 can be a very dangerous opponent as it has access to the AIM-54 Phoenix and the AIM-7F Sparrow missiles. Multiple F-14s will be able to effectively shut down higher altitudes at the start of the game by launching AIM-54 missiles. Thankfully, the MiG-21 Bis is fitted with a RWR to alert you of any potential incoming treats. Whenever you notice a possible incoming SARH missile at high altitude, the best thing to do is to immediately start to notch the enemy radar (Going 90 degrees in relation to the enemy radar) and release chaff. In a dogfight, the F-14 will gain the upper hand in just a few turns due to the poor energy retention of the MIG-21. However the MiG-21 will have the better turn radius in the first 1-2 turns if the fight starts at high speed.
 * The [[F-16_(Family)|F-16A]] and [[MiG-29]]: Hopefully, the MiG-21bis does not encounter either of these due to the BR differences, but in the case that it does, both of these planes feature advanced radar and highly dangerous SARH missiles. (AIM-7F and R-27ER respectively) However these can still be countered by notching the enemy radar. Both of these planes will have the advantage in a dogfight, the MiG-29 will be able to out-turn you at most speeds while the F-16 is much more agile at lower speed and can easily put you into an energy trap.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO Code: Fishbed-L/N) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]].
-The MiG-21bis is the ultimate development of the MiG-21. It looks roughly the same as the [[MiG-21SMT]] and [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]], both third-generation MiG-21 models with search radars, internal GSh-23 cannons, and pronounced fuselage spines. The main improvement in the MiG-21bis is a new R-25 engine with an emergency afterburner stage outputting more than 9,000 kgf of thrust in optimal conditions, granting excellent acceleration and climb rate for a single-engine fighter. The armament remains similar to the MiG-21SMT, but has the option of new R-13M1 infrared missiles similar to the [[AIM-9G]] and up to six R-60MKs - all-aspect versions of the familiar R-60s. Although the MiG-21bis has weak BVR capabilities and lacks the dogfight-tuned airframe of the [[J-7E]], it can still be a powerhouse in close combat for pilots who use its strong engine power, good missile capacity, and ability to pull high AoA turns.
+The MiG-21bis is the ultimate development of the MiG-21. The Swedish version is identical to its Russian tech tree counterpart apart from a more limited selection on ordnance and export versions of certain missiles (which also have the same performance as their non-export counterparts). It looks roughly the same as the [[MiG-21SMT]] and [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]], both third-generation MiG-21 models with search radars, internal GSh-23 cannons, and pronounced fuselage spines. The main improvement in the MiG-21bis is a new R-25 engine with an emergency afterburner stage outputting more than 9,000 kgf of thrust in optimal conditions, granting excellent acceleration and climb rate for a single-engine fighter. The armament remains similar to the MiG-21SMT, but has the option of new R-13M1 infrared missiles similar to the [[AIM-9G]] and up to six R-60MKs - all-aspect versions of the familiar R-60s. Although the MiG-21bis has weak BVR capabilities and lacks the dogfight-tuned airframe of the [[J-7E]], it can still be a powerhouse in close combat for pilots who use its strong engine power, good missile capacity, and ability to pull high AoA turns.
 == General info ==

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 ! colspan="3" | Engine
-! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
+! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
 |-
 ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
-! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
+! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
-| colspan="2" | _____ || _
+| colspan="2" | Tumansky R-25-300 || 1
-| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 6,132 kg || colspan="3" | 371 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
+! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 34m fuel
 |-
-| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
+| 1,140 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
-| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
+| 6,852 kg || 7,532 kg || 8,232 kg || 8,532 kg || 10,000 kg
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
-! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
+! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
 |-
-! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
+! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MGW
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 34m fuel || MTOW
 |-
-| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
+| ''Stationary'' || 4,040 kgf || 7,344 kgf
-| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
+| 1.07 || 0.98 || 0.89 || 0.86 || 0.73
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h) || ___ kgf<br>(_ km/h)
+| ''Optimal'' || 4,040 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || 9,068 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h)
-| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
+| 1.32 || 1.20 || 1.10 || 1.06 || 0.91
 |-
 |}