MiG-21bis - Revision history

U132357621: Changed a pro to a con

2024-11-26T05:19:59Z

Changed a pro to a con

U139124855 at 07:23, 8 November 2024

2024-11-08T07:23:08Z

U12017485: /* Pros and cons */ Simplified, clarified

2024-11-06T17:07:29Z

‎Pros and cons: Simplified, clarified

U36730855: Mig 21 has horrible energy retention.

2024-11-04T20:21:24Z

Mig 21 has horrible energy retention.

U48631922: Error in "the"

2024-11-04T12:48:16Z

Error in "the"

U48631922: Added F-5E as Enemy to beware of

2024-11-04T12:36:35Z

Added F-5E as Enemy to beware of

U48631922: General misinformation about the F-4E, Mig-21 Bis radar usage and added some recomendations about loadouts

2024-11-04T12:26:22Z

General misinformation about the F-4E, Mig-21 Bis radar usage and added some recomendations about loadouts

U135007794: a mistake in the pros and cons, the plane has bad energy retention

2024-11-03T18:05:25Z

a mistake in the pros and cons, the plane has bad energy retention

U47105246: POOR ENERGY RETENTION (THE MIG-21BIS DOESN'T HAVE "EXCELLENT ENERGY RETENTION")

2024-11-03T16:27:07Z

POOR ENERGY RETENTION (THE MIG-21BIS DOESN'T HAVE "EXCELLENT ENERGY RETENTION")

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2024-04-26T18:38:44Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

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 * Stunning acceleration
 * Can wield six potent all-aspect R-60M air-to-air missiles
 * Huge thrust to weight ratio
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Vicious rudder lock at speeds above 700 km/h, can be frustrating when trying to get guns on target
 * Pretty bad low speed manoeuvrability
 * Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
 == History ==

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 * Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s, making this plane the second-best top-rank climber behind the [[F-104S]] and above the Phantom FGR.2 and FG.1
-* Huge thrust to weight ratio and increased flight performance compared to earlier [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]]s thanks to an improved engine
+* Increased flight performance compared to earlier MiG-21s
 * Can wield six potent all-aspect R-60M air-to-air missiles
-* Has access to flares that are fired downwards, which means that missiles can be more easily evaded
+* Huge thrust to weight ratio
 '''Cons:'''
-* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns, making it very tricky to retain energy in dogfights
+* As all MiG-21s, it tends to bleed speed in turns, though not as much, thanks to the improved engine
 * Pretty bad low speed manoeuvrability
 * Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
 == History ==

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 * Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s, making this plane the second-best top-rank climber behind the [[F-104S]] and above the Phantom FGR.2 and FG.1
-* Increased flight performance compared to earlier MiG-21s
+* Huge thrust to weight ratio and increased flight performance compared to earlier [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]]s thanks to an improved engine
 * Excels against both aerial and ground targets
 '''Cons:'''
-* As all MiG-21s, it tends to bleed speed in turns, though not as much, thanks to the improved engine
+* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns, making it very tricky to retain energy in dogfights
 * Vicious rudder lock at speeds above 700 km/h, can be frustrating when trying to get guns on target
 * Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
 == History ==

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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The {{PAGENAME}} has above-average acceleration and high-speed performance. Firstly, the aircraft is quite fast, being able to reach 1365 km/h IAS on the deck (at low altitudes) before its wings rip, this translates to above-average level-flight speeds at medium to high altitudes. However, like all other MiG-21s, the {{PAGENAME}}, whilst being able to turn well, it tends to bleed speed at an alarming rate during turns. Extended dogfights should therefore be avoided unless you are absolutely sure you are able to outturn your opponent and it's alone, as the {{PAGENAME}} will often end up on the losing side or too slow to defend itself against another enemy.
+The {{PAGENAME}} has above-average acceleration and high-speed performance. Firstly, the aircraft is quite fast, being able to reach 1365 km/h IAS on the deck (at low altitudes) before its wings rip, this translates to above-average level-flight speeds at medium to high altitudes. However, like all other MiG-21s, the {{PAGENAME}}, whilst being able to turn well, it tends to bleed speed at an alarming rate during turns. Extended dogfights should therefore be avoided unless you are absolutely sure you are able to outturn your opponent, as the {{PAGENAME}} will often end up on the losing side.
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 The main things to remember about this plane is that it is fairly manoeuvrable at high speeds and it accelerates quickly and climbs pretty well. In a combat situation, you should avoid flying slower than 800 km/h, as your plane loses a significant amount of thrust and manoeuvrability at speeds lower than that.
 Here's how you would want to use this plane to its advantages depending of the state of the game you're in:
-At the beginning, climb at a low angle (around 5-10 degrees) and turn off your radar so any enemy flying high can't see you in RWR, it is recommended you stay at lower altitudes (always lower than 5Km to not show a contrail) and keep a relatively high speed (between 900 to 1300 km/h) so that you can turn away from an enemy locking you with their radar/shooting a missile at you. If the enemy you have located is isolated/not paying attention, engage it and use either your missiles or gun to engage it. Try not to lose too much speed as your plane relies on it. don't forget to look around for any incoming threat.
+At the beginning, climb at a low angle (around 5-10 degrees) and watch your radar for any enemies flying high, it is recommended you stay at lower altitudes and keep a relatively high speed (between 900 to 1300 km/h) so that you can turn away from an enemy locking you with their radar/shooting a missile at you. If the enemy you have located is isolated/not paying attention, engage it and use either your missiles or gun to engage it. Try not to lose too much speed as your plane relies on it. don't forget to look around for any incoming threat.
 Towards the mid or end-game, keep flying fast and avoid wasting speed in turns. Use Boom-N-Run tactics (fly towards a target at high speed, engage them quickly and run away) and assist the team with any problematic enemies. If you find a lonely target you can dogfight with, go for it as long as you don't have any other enemy nearby, as extended dogfights with the MiG-21bis tend to leave it very vulnerable to enemy fire.
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 '''Enemies to beware of:'''
-* F-16A early (Block 10): Amongst the highest BR enemy you can fight if you're in a maximum downtier. This plane is your absolute nemesis as it can counter you in every way. It flies faster than you, it turns better than you and climbs better than you. If you spot an F-16A Block 10, your best strategy would be to try to destroy it from a surprise angle or team up on it with your teammates to destroy it. If you find yourself being targeted by an F-16A Block 10, try to stay fast and do short periodical manoeuvres to throw its aim off. Don't forget to pre-flare if you're flying too slowly as its AIM-9L missiles can spell doom to you. Try to have teammates back you up in these situations, as it is unlikely you will be able to defeat a F-16A Block 10 in a 1v1 dogfight.
+* F-16A early (Block 10): Amongst the highest BR enemy you can fight if you're in a maximum downtier. This plane is your absolute nemesis as it can counter you in every way. It flies faster than you, it turns better than you and climbs better than you. If you spot an F-16A Block 10, your best strategy would be to try to destroy it from a surprise angle or team up on it with your teammates to destroy it. If you find yourself being targeted by an F-16A Block 10, try to stay fast and do short periodical vertical manoeuvres to throw its aim off. Don't forget to pre-flare if you're flying too slowly as its AIM-9L missiles can spell doom to you. Try to have teammates back you up in these situations, as it is unlikely you will be able to defeat a F-16A Block 10 in a 1v1 dogfight.
 * F-14 (A Early/B): Another nemesis you can frequently encounter, but you can beat it. Its AIM-54 Phoenix missiles can destroy you at extreme ranges if you're not paying attention, if you find yourself in BVR range against a F-14, you can be easy prey to its AIM-7F missiles unless you counter them (either by flying very close to the ground or by notching and chaffing). When engaging in close-quarters fights against a F-14, one should take notice that the F-14 is rather manoeuvrable and can beat the MiG-21bis in a continuous turnfight. The best strategy against a F-14 is to make it lose its speed by doing burst climbs and re-descending upon it when it is at its slowest.
-* F-4E: Whilst not being as nimble, a skilled F-4E player can easily destroy you. At BVR ranges, you are prey to the F-4E's radar missiles (as you would with any other enemy) but at close ranges, the F-4E can't keep up with you in turns and It is possible to beat an F-4E in a sustained dogfight, just make sure you're alone to do it, as you will get very slow which will get you killed by a 3rd party. Overall, the best strategy against an F-4E is to turn as hard as you can into him to end the fight as fast as possible, as he can't turn nor keep it's energy as well. Just don't get in front of him ever. It's 20mm rotetive gun will shred you.
+* F-4E: Whilst not being as nimble, a skilled F-4E player can easily destroy you. At BVR ranges, you are prey to the F-4E's radar missiles (as you would with any other enemy) but at close ranges, the F-4E can keep up with you in turns as long as it is flying at medium to high speeds (800-1200 km/h).It is possible to beat an F-4E in a sustained dogfight, just make sure you're alone to do it. Overall, the best strategy again an F-4E is, yet again, to bleed its speed with burst climbs and re-engage when it is at its slowest.
 === Radars ===

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 The main things to remember about this plane is that it is fairly manoeuvrable at high speeds and it accelerates quickly and climbs pretty well. In a combat situation, you should avoid flying slower than 800 km/h, as your plane loses a significant amount of thrust and manoeuvrability at speeds lower than that.
-There are 2 recommended loadouts. You can have 6 R-60Ms, with pretty good turn rate but poor range, or 4 R-60Ms int he exterior mounts and 2 R-13M1s in the interior ones, which have much more acceleration and range, but 10 less G of pull.
+There are 2 recommended loadouts. You can have 6 R-60Ms, with pretty good turn rate but poor range, or 4 R-60Ms in the exterior mounts and 2 R-13M1s in the interior ones, which have much more acceleration and range, but 10 less G of pull.
 Here's how you would want to use this plane to its advantages depending of the state of the game you're in:

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 * 3 x 490 l drop tanks
-* 1 x 490 l drop tank + 2 x R-13M1 missiles
+* 1 x 490 l drop tank + 2 x R-60M missiles
 * 4 x R-3S missiles
 * 4 x R-3R missiles