MiG-21S (R-13-300) - Revision history

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Tactics and cons

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 * Air-to-air missiles are underwhelming and are mostly effective only against inattentive pilots
-* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns
+* Bleeds excessive amounts of energy during turns, making it very tricky to retain energy in dogfights
 * Cannon requires careful use due to the limited amount of rounds
 * Fuel-hungry engine, 20 minutes of fuel will quickly disappear if not paying attention
 * Slow at 30 minutes of fuel

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 In RB, the MiG-21S should also be used in a support role and at high altitudes but it can also be used as a frontline fighter, with more risk. When flying at altitudes above 5,000 m the MiG-21S easily reaches Mach 1.3, and its radar is free of ground clutter. At this altitude, common enemies are the F-104 Starfighter, other MiG-21s, Harriers, and the F-8E Crusader, the Crusader being the most dangerous thanks to the AIM-9C radar-guided missile and countermeasures. At higher altitudes, the missiles can fly longer and faster, while aircraft became more sluggish due to the thinner atmosphere, which is very beneficial for the R-3Rs since they are very early missiles and can't pull very hard. In a support role, attacking slow aircraft, especially those focused in fights or bomb runs, is a good way to help your team. Its good speed also makes the MiG-21S a very good hunter, attacking damaged aircraft that are retreating back to their airfield.
-The usual preferred tactic is to fly between 3000-4000m so that most unaware players space climbing at near 5000 m, such as F-104s or Harriers, won't see your missile being fired in front of them. Some of these planes (exceptions such as the F-5Cs) won't even detect your radar bandwidth as they are limited to I band while the MiG-21S' is J band. And once you reach within 8 km of lock range, fire the missile. At such altitudes the missile will easily intercept them.
+The usual preferred tactic is to fly between 3,000-4,000 m so that most unaware players space climbing at near 5,000 m, such as F-104s or Harriers, won't see your missile being fired in front of them. Some of these planes (exceptions such as the F-5Cs) won't even detect your radar bandwidth as they are limited to I band while the MiG-21S' is J band. And once you reach within 8 km of lock range, fire the missile. At such altitudes the missile will easily intercept them.
-Speaking of F-5Cs, those planes which are aware of your missiles and evade them when you fire it within 8 km rage. Another tactic is to fool them into thinking you will be going for a head-on gun attack. And once you both close-in within 2km range, fire your R-3R and evade immediately to avoid their canons. Most of the time the enemy in front will not have the time to react to the missile fired just 1 km in front of him.
+Speaking of F-5Cs, those planes which are aware of your missiles and evade them when you fire it within 8 km range. Another tactic is to fool them into thinking you will be going for a head-on gun attack. And once you both close-in within 2 km range, fire your R-3R and evade immediately to avoid their canons. Most of the time the enemy in front will not have the time to react to the missile fired just 1 km in front of him.
 Also, if you keep flying high and each the other end of the map at the start of a match, you are bound to face a bunch of A-10 players flying low just beneath you. So another tactic is to be sneaky and dive sneakily behind them with airbrakes. Achieving a radar lock as you are heading low will be difficult, so its best advised to sneak just behind them slowly and use your guns on them.
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 * Cannon requires careful use due to the limited amount of rounds
 * Energy retention isn't the greatest
-* Fuel-hungry engine, 20m of fuel will quickly disappear if not paying attention
+* Fuel-hungry engine, 20 minutes of fuel will quickly disappear if not paying attention
-* Slow at 30m of fuel
+* Slow at 30 minutes of fuel
-* Lack of any Countermeasures means its a vulnerable target for aircrafts with high aspect IR missiles in uptiers
+* Lack of any Countermeasures means its a vulnerable target for aircraft with high aspect IR missiles in uptiers
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
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-During the mid 1960s, While the Soviet Air Defence Force (PVO) was content with their MiG-21 variants, the Soviet Air Force (VVS) set out to acquire a better fighter-interceptor, as their current MiG-21PF were mainly suited for heavy interception and light ground attack, with little emphasis on air-to-air combat. Research from Mikoyan OKB quickly resulted in the Ye-7S prototype, a MiG-21PF with the new Sapfir-21 radar, allowing it to mount not only the ASP-PF-21 radar-computing gunsight, but also [[R-3R]] (K-13R) semi-active radar guided (SARH) air to air missile, increasing the lethality of this aircraft during interception and especially during head-on and side-on engagements with enemy aircraft. The design was greatly favoured by the VVS, and after a small request to also increase the fuel capacity, the MiG-21S was born. The MiG-21S had the extra fuel incorporated in the larger saddle tank taken from the MiG-21R variant, while mounting all the avionics upgrades of the Ye-7S prototype. This aircraft would begin delivery to its only operator, the Soviet Air Force (VVS) in 1965, and would see active combat shortly after, most notably participating in the Invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.
+While the Soviet Air Defence Force (PVO) was content with their MiG-21 variants, the Soviet Air Force (VVS) set out to acquire a better fighter-interceptor, as their current MiG-21PF were mainly suited for heavy interception and light ground attack, with little emphasis on air-to-air combat. Research from Mikoyan OKB quickly resulted in the Ye-7S prototype, a MiG-21PF with the new Sapfir-21 radar, allowing it to mount not only the ASP-PF-21 radar-computing gunsight, but also [[R-3R]] (K-13R) semi-active radar guided (SARH) air-to-air missile, increasing the lethality of this aircraft during interception and especially during head-on and side-on engagements with enemy aircraft. The design was greatly favoured by the VVS, and after a small request to also increase the fuel capacity, the MiG-21S was born. The MiG-21S had the extra fuel incorporated in the larger saddle tank taken from the MiG-21R variant, while mounting all the avionics upgrades of the Ye-7S prototype. This aircraft would begin delivery to its only operator, the Soviet Air Force (VVS) in 1965, and would see active combat shortly after, most notably participating in the Invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.
 Introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]] as a GE {{ge}} premium, the MiG-21S is doctrinally very similar to its contemporary second-generation Fishbed variants of similar battle rating. In simple terms, the MiG-21S is just a [[MiG-21PFM]] with more fuel and extra hardpoints due to using the chassis of a MiG-21R. The biggest selling point of this aircraft after its incredible flight performance for its battle rating, is the [[R-3R]] radar-guided missiles, which allow for head-on and side-on engagement against unaware or overconfident aircraft, if the radar lock conditions permit. The MiG-21S, while excelling in the flight performance and weapons department for its battle rating, is strongly offset by its abysmal survivability. At a battle rating where it is regularly faced with high-G all-aspect missiles such as the [[AIM-9L Sidewinder|AIM-9L]] and [[R-60M]], this aircraft is strongly limited by the fact that it lacks any form of countermeasures to defend itself against such threats.

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 '''Simulator Battles:'''
-In SB, the MiG-21S is a more tricky fighter. Because it has a radar with IFF (Identification friend or foe), tt can be used in high altitudes to intercept enemy bombers and other fighters. But its lack of countermeasures would cement its future in that role. Fortunately it has an RWR. Something very useful to know when another plane has a radar lock on you. Aside from that, pilots should be extremely careful, because even with an IFF system, the MiG-21S can lock onto allied aircraft and cause friendly fire incidents. For ground loadouts, the MiG-21S has a very bad frontal cockpit visibility, making CAS duties really hard even with the ballistics computer for bombs and rockets.
+In SB, the MiG-21S is a more tricky fighter. Because it has a radar with IFF (Identification friend or foe), it can be used in high altitudes to intercept enemy bombers and other fighters. But its lack of countermeasures would cement its future in that role. Fortunately it has an RWR. Something very useful to know when another plane has a radar lock on you. Aside from that, pilots should be extremely careful, because even with an IFF system, the MiG-21S can lock onto allied aircraft and cause friendly fire incidents. For ground loadouts, the MiG-21S has a very bad frontal cockpit visibility, making CAS duties really hard even with the ballistics computer for bombs and rockets.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 In RB, the MiG-21S should also be used in a support role and at high altitudes but it can also be used as a frontline fighter, with more risk. When flying at altitudes above 5,000 m the MiG-21S easily reaches Mach 1.3, and its radar is free of ground clutter. At this altitude, common enemies are the F-104 Starfighter, other MiG-21s, Harriers, and the F-8E Crusader, the Crusader being the most dangerous thanks to the AIM-9C radar-guided missile and countermeasures. At higher altitudes, the missiles can fly longer and faster, while aircraft became more sluggish due to the thinner atmosphere, which is very beneficial for the R-3Rs since they are very early missiles and can't pull very hard. In a support role, attacking slow aircraft, especially those focused in fights or bomb runs, is a good way to help your team. Its good speed also makes the MiG-21S a very good hunter, attacking damaged aircraft that are retreating back to their airfield.
-The usual preferred tactic is to fly between 3000-4000m so that most unaware players space climbing at near 5000m, such as F-104s or Harriers won't see your missile being fired in front of them. Some of these planes (exceptions such as the F-5Cs) won't even detect your radar bandwidth as they are limited to I band while the MiG-21S' is J band. And once you reach within 8km of lock range, fire the missile. AT such altitudes the missile will easily intercept them.
+The usual preferred tactic is to fly between 3000-4000m so that most unaware players space climbing at near 5000 m, such as F-104s or Harriers, won't see your missile being fired in front of them. Some of these planes (exceptions such as the F-5Cs) won't even detect your radar bandwidth as they are limited to I band while the MiG-21S' is J band. And once you reach within 8 km of lock range, fire the missile. At such altitudes the missile will easily intercept them.
-Speaking of F-5Cs, those planes which are aware of your missiles and evade them when you fire it within 8km rage, another tactic is to fool them into thinking your will be going for a head-on gun kill. And once you both close-in within 2km range, fire your R-3R and evade immediately to avoid his canons. Most of the time the enemy in front will not have the time to react to the missile fired just 1km in front of him.
+Speaking of F-5Cs, those planes which are aware of your missiles and evade them when you fire it within 8 km rage. Another tactic is to fool them into thinking you will be going for a head-on gun attack. And once you both close-in within 2km range, fire your R-3R and evade immediately to avoid their canons. Most of the time the enemy in front will not have the time to react to the missile fired just 1 km in front of him.
 Also, if you keep flying high and each the other end of the map at the start of a match, you are bound to face a bunch of A-10 players flying low just beneath you. So another tactic is to be sneaky and dive sneakily behind them with airbrakes. Achieving a radar lock as you are heading low will be difficult, so its best advised to sneak just behind them slowly and use your guns on them.

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	In RB, the MiG-21S should also be used in a support role and at high altitudes but it can also be used as a frontline fighter, with more risk. When flying at altitudes above 5,000 m the MiG-21S easily reaches Mach 1.3, and its radar is free of ground clutter. At this altitude, common enemies are the F-104 Starfighter, other MiG-21s, Harriers, and the F-8E Crusader, the Crusader being the most dangerous thanks to the AIM-9C radar-guided missile and countermeasures. At higher altitudes, the missiles can fly longer and faster, while aircraft became more sluggish due to the thinner atmosphere, which is very beneficial for the R-3Rs since they are very early missiles and can't pull very hard. In a support role, attacking slow aircraft, especially those focused in fights or bomb runs, is a good way to help your team. Its good speed also makes the MiG-21S a very good hunter, attacking damaged aircraft that are retreating back to their airfield.		In RB, the MiG-21S should also be used in a support role and at high altitudes but it can also be used as a frontline fighter, with more risk. When flying at altitudes above 5,000 m the MiG-21S easily reaches Mach 1.3, and its radar is free of ground clutter. At this altitude, common enemies are the F-104 Starfighter, other MiG-21s, Harriers, and the F-8E Crusader, the Crusader being the most dangerous thanks to the AIM-9C radar-guided missile and countermeasures. At higher altitudes, the missiles can fly longer and faster, while aircraft became more sluggish due to the thinner atmosphere, which is very beneficial for the R-3Rs since they are very early missiles and can't pull very hard. In a support role, attacking slow aircraft, especially those focused in fights or bomb runs, is a good way to help your team. Its good speed also makes the MiG-21S a very good hunter, attacking damaged aircraft that are retreating back to their airfield.
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		+	The usual preferred tactic is to fly between 3000-4000m so that most unaware players space climbing at near 5000m, such as F-104s or Harriers won't see your missile being fired in front of them. Some of these planes (exceptions such as the F-5Cs) won't even detect your radar bandwidth as they are limited to I band while the MiG-21S' is J band. And once you reach within 8km of lock range, fire the missile. AT such altitudes the missile will easily intercept them.
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		+	Speaking of F-5Cs, those planes which are aware of your missiles and evade them when you fire it within 8km rage, another tactic is to fool them into thinking your will be going for a head-on gun kill. And once you both close-in within 2km range, fire your R-3R and evade immediately to avoid his canons. Most of the time the enemy in front will not have the time to react to the missile fired just 1km in front of him.
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		+	Also, if you keep flying high and each the other end of the map at the start of a match, you are bound to face a bunch of A-10 players flying low just beneath you. So another tactic is to be sneaky and dive sneakily behind them with airbrakes. Achieving a radar lock as you are heading low will be difficult, so its best advised to sneak just behind them slowly and use your guns on them.

	'''Simulator Battles:'''		'''Simulator Battles:'''

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|QiTm32YVGWc|'''2 Premiums, One Playstyle: MiG-21 SPS-K & MiG-21S''' - ''Spit_flyer''|XGATU1TiNws|'''High Powered Vulture - MiG-21S Winged Lions''' - ''DEFYN''|_We7EKqMT0I|'''MiG-21S : A Quick Review''' - ''Tims Variety''|iDuXI0Zn2Sc|"Why is nobody buying the MiG-21S?" - "Walv!s"}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|QiTm32YVGWc|'''2 Premiums, One Playstyle: MiG-21 SPS-K & MiG-21S''' - ''Spit_flyer''|XGATU1TiNws|'''High Powered Vulture - MiG-21S Winged Lions''' - ''DEFYN''|_We7EKqMT0I|'''MiG-21S : A Quick Review''' - ''Tims Variety''}}
 == See also ==