Mi-35M - Revision history

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U79942984: Wrote intro, armor, armament, usage in battles.

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Wrote intro, armor, armament, usage in battles.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-After the fall of the Soviet Union, a program to modernize previous Mi-24 helicopters for use by the Russian Federation, as they were on a tight budget and could not build the complete amount of Mi-28 and Ka-50 helicopters to replace the Hind fleet as initially proposed. The upgrade program would completely overhaul the helicopter both inside and outside, by incorporating on board fire control computers, anti-jam communication equipment, overhauled "glass cockpit" with color MFDs, and a GLONASS/GPS navigation system. The weaponry were also upgraded, with the ability to use the new [[9M120 Ataka]] ATGMs, Igla IR missiles for self defence against aircraft, and variety of new unguided rocket pods. These were all aimed with the brand new GOES-342 electro-optical range finder/targeting system and its respective thermal sight. Finally, the 12.7mm turret in the nose was replaced with a [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]] turret for more firepower. For defence, the Mi-35M was equipped with the latest defensive measures, including the Vitebsk Onboard Defence System composed of a Missile Approach Warning system, multiple countermeasure dispesners, and a basic electronic IRCM suite. The Mi-35M modernization would start quickly after it passed state trials, and as of 2018, more than 60 of the type are in Russian service
+After the fall of the Soviet Union, a program was initiated to modernize previous Mi-24 helicopters for use by the Russian Federation, as they were on a tight budget and could not build the complete amount of Mi-28 and Ka-50 helicopters to replace the Hind fleet as initially proposed. The upgrade program would completely overhaul the helicopter both inside and out, by incorporating on-board fire control computers, anti-jam communication equipment, overhauled "glass cockpit" with color MFDs, and a GLONASS/GPS navigation system. The weaponry was also upgraded, with the ability to use the new [[9M120 Ataka]] ATGMs, Igla IR missiles for self-defence against aircraft, and a variety of new unguided rocket pods. These were all aimed with the brand new GOES-342 electro-optical rangefinder/targeting system and its respective thermal sight. Finally, the 12.7 mm turret in the nose was replaced with a [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]] turret for more firepower. For defence, the Mi-35M was equipped with the latest defensive measures, including the Vitebsk Onboard Defence System composed of a Missile Approach Warning system, multiple countermeasure dispensers, and a basic electronic IRCM suite. Modernization to the Mi-35M standard would start quickly after it passed state trials, and as of 2018, more than 60 of the type are in Russian service.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' "Super Hind" (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-J''), introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]], is the eipitome of the Hind family. Being a heavily modernized variant for the 21st century, the Mi-35M incorporates many of the features of top tier helicopters on the versatile and familiar Mi-24 Hind chassis. By incorporating such advanced systems on a tried and true airframe, players have the chance to focus on learning all about these new systems and how to use them, without paying much attention to trying to fly a new kind of airframe, as players will have already familiarized themselves with the flight performance of the previous Hinds. Thanks to the many upgrades in guided weaponry and targeting systems, the Mi-35M is a much more capable tank hunter overall at its battle rating and can easily support its high-tier Soviet MBT peers.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' "Super Hind" (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-J''), introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]], is the epitome of the Hind family. Being a heavily modernized variant for the 21st century, the Mi-35M incorporates many of the features of top tier helicopters on the versatile and familiar Mi-24 Hind chassis. By incorporating such advanced systems on a tried and true airframe, players have the chance to focus on learning all about these new systems and how to use them, without paying much attention to trying to fly a new kind of airframe, as players will have already familiarized themselves with the flight performance of the previous Hinds. Thanks to the many upgrades in guided weaponry and targeting systems, the Mi-35M is a much more capable tank hunter overall at its battle rating and can easily support its high-tier Soviet MBT peers.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].
+After the fall of the Soviet Union, a program to modernize previous Mi-24 helicopters for use by the Russian Federation, as they were on a tight budget and could not build the complete amount of Mi-28 and Ka-50 helicopters to replace the Hind fleet as initially proposed. The upgrade program would completely overhaul the helicopter both inside and outside, by incorporating on board fire control computers, anti-jam communication equipment, overhauled "glass cockpit" with color MFDs, and a GLONASS/GPS navigation system. The weaponry were also upgraded, with the ability to use the new [[9M120 Ataka]] ATGMs, Igla IR missiles for self defence against aircraft, and variety of new unguided rocket pods. These were all aimed with the brand new GOES-342 electro-optical range finder/targeting system and its respective thermal sight. Finally, the 12.7mm turret in the nose was replaced with a [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]] turret for more firepower. For defence, the Mi-35M was equipped with the latest defensive measures, including the Vitebsk Onboard Defence System composed of a Missile Approach Warning system, multiple countermeasure dispesners, and a basic electronic IRCM suite. The Mi-35M modernization would start quickly after it passed state trials, and as of 2018, more than 60 of the type are in Russian service
-The Mi-35M is a modernized version of the Mi-24 Hind developed after the fall of the Soviet Union. The airframe remains externally similar to the [[Mi-24V]] but many components have been modified. The optics have been heavily improved with an auto-tracker, thermal sights, and better zoom, making it much easier to find and engage ground targets. The 9M120 Ataka ATGM packs a bigger punch than the 9M114 Shturm while keeping the same high flight speed. The chin turret now has a 23 mm GSh-23L autocannon instead of a machine gun. Unfortunately some fun quirks of the Soviet Hind models have been lost as well: the R-60 air-to-air missile has been replaced by much less agile Igla MANPADS, the S-24 heavy rocket has been replaced by the podded S-13OF, and no bombs are available. The Mi-35M is still a much more capable tank hunter overall and can support its high-tier Soviet MBT peers.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' "Super Hind" (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-J''), introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]], is the eipitome of the Hind family. Being a heavily modernized variant for the 21st century, the Mi-35M incorporates many of the features of top tier helicopters on the versatile and familiar Mi-24 Hind chassis. By incorporating such advanced systems on a tried and true airframe, players have the chance to focus on learning all about these new systems and how to use them, without paying much attention to trying to fly a new kind of airframe, as players will have already familiarized themselves with the flight performance of the previous Hinds. Thanks to the many upgrades in guided weaponry and targeting systems, the Mi-35M is a much more capable tank hunter overall at its battle rating and can easily support its high-tier Soviet MBT peers.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles

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 {{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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 | rowspan="8" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
+! [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|23 mm GSh-23L]] cannons (250 rpg)
 | || 1 || 1 ||
 |-
-! S-8KO rockets
+! [[S-8KO]] rockets
 | 20 || 20 || 20 || 20
 |-
-! S-13OF rockets
+! [[S-13OF]] rockets
 | || 5 || 5 ||
 |-
-! 9M39 Igla missiles
+! [[9M39 Igla]] missiles
 | 4 || || || 4
 |-
-! 9M114 Shturm missiles
+! [[9M114 Shturm]] missiles
-| 4, 8 || || ||
+| 2, 4, 8 || || ||
 |-
-! 9M120 Ataka missiles
+! [[9M120 Ataka]] missiles
 | 4, 8 || || ||
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-| colspan="5" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 480 kg
+| colspan="5" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 The 9M114 Shturm missile returns as the stock ATGM option but its 560 mm of single-charge penetration is very lacking at the Mi-35M's rank and it will not do much against MBTs. The 9M120 Ataka is an improved development of the Shturm with 800 mm of tandem-charge penetration and an extra kilometer of range for 6 km total; the Ataka can threaten at least the front hull of most MBTs and is much more viable, although its range lags behind the Hellfire available to NATO helicopters.
-Lastly, GSh-23L cannon pods return, but they are not very practically. The Mi-35M's internal GSh-23L with an auto-tracker is both equally powerful and much more accurate.
+Lastly, GSh-23L cannon pods return, but they are not very practical. The Mi-35M's internal GSh-23L with an auto-tracker is both equally powerful and much more accurate.
-The Mi-35M only has four hardpoints, compared to the six of previous Hinds, but this does not degrade its ability to carry ATGMs and AAMs. The outboard right pylon is the only one capable of mounting ATGMs, and up to 8 can be carried. It can mount 4 Iglas as well but this is not recommended. The outboard left pylon on the other side of the plane can be used to carry 4 Iglas instead, which is sufficient for most battles. So the overall missile capacity is superior to the earlier Mi-24V/P Hinds, which could only carry 8 ATGMs by sacrificing all AAMs.
+The Mi-35M only has four hardpoints, compared to the six of previous Hinds, but this does not degrade its ability to carry ATGMs and AAMs. The outboard right pylon is the only one capable of mounting ATGMs, and up to 8 can be carried. It can mount 4 Iglas as well but this is not recommended unless there are insufficient spawn points for ATGMs. The outboard left pylon on the other side can be used to carry 4 Iglas instead, which is sufficient for most battles. So the overall missile capacity is superior to the earlier Mi-24V/P Hinds, which could only carry 8 ATGMs by sacrificing all AAMs.
 ==== Custom loadout options ====
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 The Mi-35M is the best Hind for tank hunting because of its thermal sights, auto-tracker, and improved Ataka ATGMs, which let it keep up with the pace of high tier combat where targets move quickly and have strong protection. Unfortunately the Hind airframe starts to show its age at its rank, because its limited agility and huge profile make it difficult to avoid detection and dodge incoming SAMs. The 6 km range of the Atakas is less than radar-guided SAMs like the [[Roland 1]] and the Mi-35M may not always win a missile joust. It still helps to use the Hind's speed to circle around the battlefield and attack from angles that the enemy team would not normally expect helicopters from.
-Iglas are reasonably effective against helicopters due to their effective seeker and countermeasure resistance, but in the presence of HIRSS or IRCM systems, they may be outranged by the Atakas. By using the auto-tracker, the Atakas are in fact reasonably effective as anti-helicopter missiles considering their high flight speed. Jet aircraft are usually too fast for the Atakas to track unless they are slow and not paying attention, so the Mi-35M should generally avoid enemy aircraft and only engage them in self defence or when they are unaware. An enemy attacker pulling up after a weapons launch is a good target for an Igla.
+Iglas are reasonably effective against helicopters due to their effective seeker and countermeasure resistance, but in the presence of HIRSS or IRCM systems, they may be outranged by the Atakas. By using the auto-tracker, the Atakas are in fact capable anti-helicopter missiles considering their high flight speed. Jet aircraft are usually too fast for the Atakas to track unless they are slow and not paying attention, so the Mi-35M should generally avoid enemy aircraft and only engage them in self defence or when they are unaware. An enemy attacker pulling up after a weapons launch is a good target for an Igla.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].
 == General info ==
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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
-''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''
+<!--''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''-->
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 ** 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures
 ** 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures + IRCM
 === Suspended armament ===
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 * 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
 * 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
 ==== Custom loadout options ====
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The {{PAGENAME}} is very good at long-range sniping in tank realistic battles. While playing the distance game, it is important to make sure the chopper does not stay stationary when picking out and shooting at targets or else the {{PAGENAME}} will become an easy target. On the other hand, in air battles, the {{PAGENAME}} is amazing at sniping enemy helicopters within a 5 km range.
+The Mi-35M is the best Hind for tank hunting because of its thermal sights, auto-tracker, and improved Ataka ATGMs, which let it keep up with the pace of high tier combat where targets move quickly and have strong protection. Unfortunately the Hind airframe starts to show its age at its rank, because its limited agility and huge profile make it difficult to avoid detection and dodge incoming SAMs. The 6 km range of the Atakas is less than radar-guided SAMs like the [[Roland 1]] and the Mi-35M may not always win a missile joust. It still helps to use the Hind's speed to circle around the battlefield and attack from angles that the enemy team would not normally expect helicopters from.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Great 23 mm cannon damage
 * IRCM and flares help the Mi-35M avoid AAMs
-* Igla AAMs are flare and IRCM resistant and good against enemy jet aircraft
+* Igla AAMs are flare and IRCM resistant, good against unaware enemy jets
 '''Cons:'''

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 {{main|S-8KO|S-13OF|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
 * Without load
 * 80 x S-8KO rockets
 * 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
-* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
-* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+==== Custom loadout options ====
-* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+|-
-* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+! !! width="11%" | 1 !! width="11%" | 2 !! width="11%" | 3 !! width="11%" | 4
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+| rowspan="8" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+|-
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+| || 1 || 1 ||
-* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
+|-
-* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
+! S-8KO rockets
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+| 20 || 20 || 20 || 20
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+|-
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+! S-13OF rockets
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+| || 5 || 5 ||
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+|-
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+! 9M39 Igla missiles
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+| 4 || || || 4
-* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+|-
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets
+! 9M114 Shturm missiles
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+| 4, 8 || || ||
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+|-
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+! 9M120 Ataka missiles
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+| 4, 8 || || ||
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+|-
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles
+| colspan="5" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 480 kg
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 4 x 9M120 Ataka missiles + 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+|-
-* 10 x S-13OF rockets + 8 x 9M120 Ataka missiles + 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+|}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 | usage-1 = April Fools event helicopter
 | link-1 = Mi-35 (April Fools)
-| usage-2 = other uses
+| usage-2 = other versions
 | link-2 = Mi-24 (Family)
 }}
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->

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 '''Cons:'''
-* Relatively low ammo reserve on 23 mm
+* Relatively low ammo reserve on the 23 mm cannons
-* Lower speed than the Mi-24
+* Lower top speed than the Mi-24s
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=helicopter&vehicleClass=attack_helicopter&vehicle=mi_35m Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mi_35m Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Images

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 * Relatively low ammo reserve on 23 mm
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=helicopter&vehicleClass=attack_helicopter&vehicle=mi_35m Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''