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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 2 x R-60 missiles
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 * 2 x R-60M missiles
 * 4 x R-60M missiles
 * 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
 * 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
 * 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO Code: Hind-E) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].
+In 1976, a slight modernization was applied to the [[Mi-24D (USSR)|Mi-24D]], using technology and systems previously tested on prototypes only. The new Hind was to replace its aging Falanga ATGMs with [[9M114 Shturm]] ATGMs, which not only had more range and better guidance, but were smaller and lighter, allowing the new Hind to carry twice as much of them as the Falanga. This new variant also featured an updated fire control system, and was quickly pressed into service as the '''Mi-24V'''. The V variant would become the most commonly operated and single most produced model of the Mi-24 family, with over 1500 made. It should be noted that to alternate designations exist for the Mi-24V: In Polish service, it was referred to as the Mi-24W, and for unknown reasons, a single Mi-24V prototype was called the Mi-24T officially at some point.
-The Mi-24V has been highly modernized compared to the preceding Hind-A. It has the signature tandem bubble canopies introduced from the [[Mi-24D (USSR)|Hind-D]] onward for a sleeker appearance and better visibility, although the flight model remains essentially the same. Firepower has been greatly improved: on top of the internal 12.7 mm gatling gun mounted in a chin turret, the Mi-24V can carry various combinations of S-8KO HEAT rockets, S-24 heavy HE rockets, 9M114 Shturm ATGMs, unguided bombs, gun pods, and even R-60M air-to-air missiles. Survivability is bolstered by exhaust suppression, IRCM, and countermeasure systems. The Mi-24V is one of the most feature-packed helicopters at its battle rating and can be a major threat to ground and air targets alike.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-E'') introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]], is the most common variant of the Mi-24 produced. The Mi-24V has been highly modernized compared to the preceding [[Mi-24A|Hind-A]]. It has the signature tandem bubble canopies introduced from the [[Mi-24D (USSR)|Hind-D]] onward for a sleeker appearance and better visibility. Firepower has been greatly improved: on top of the internal 12.7 mm gatling gun mounted in a chin turret, the Mi-24V can carry various combinations of 57mm rocket pods, [[S-24]] heavy rockets, [[9M114 Shturm]] ATGMs, unguided bombs, gun pods, and even all aspect [[R-60M]] air-to-air missiles for self defence against air threats. Survivability is bolstered by exhaust suppression, IRCM, and flare dispensers. The Mi-24V is one of the most feature-packed helicopters at its battle rating and can be a major threat to ground and air targets alike when utilized and positioned correctly
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 2 x R-60 missiles
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mi_24v Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 <!-- ''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
+! [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|23 mm GSh-23L]] cannons (250 rpg)
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-! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
+! [[OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|250 kg OFAB-250sv]] bombs
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-! 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs
+! [[FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|500 kg FAB-500M-54]] bombs
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-! S-8KO rockets
+! [[S-8KO]] rockets
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-! S-24 rockets
+! [[S-24]] rockets
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-! 9M114 Shturm missiles
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-! R-60 missiles
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 The Mi-24V has a huge arsenal and plenty of hardpoints to support it. The main anti-tank weapon is the 9M114 Shturm ATGM designed specifically for the Hind family. Compared to the Mi-24A's 9M17M Falanga ATGMs, the Shturm has slightly lower penetration in exchange for an extended range of 5 km and more than double the flight speed (550 m/s compared to 230 m/s). In fact, the Shturm is one of the fastest ATGMs in the game, which makes it both easy to aim and effective at dealing with SPAAs. The penetration is underwhelming however, and tanks with ERA and/or composite armour can shrug it off. Up to 8 can be carried in total, and 4 can be carried on the outermost pylons without conflicting with other stores.

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-{{Youtube-gallery|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|o90jz82NemI|'''Ultimate MI-24 Guide''' -By Bob Dickinson}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|o90jz82NemI|'''Mi-24 Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|o90jz82NemI|'''Ultimate MI-24 Guide''' -By Bob Dickinson}}
 == See also ==

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 <!-- ''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The Mi-24V flies very similarly to the Mi-24A. It is very fast in a straight line and has a good climb rate courtesy of its powerful engines, but its size and weight make it hard to turn and maneuver.
+The Mi-24V flies very similarly to the Mi-24A. It is very fast in a straight line and has a good climb rate courtesy of its powerful engines, but its size and weight make it hard to turn and manoeuvre.
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 The Mi-24V has a huge arsenal and plenty of hardpoints to support it. The main anti-tank weapon is the 9M114 Shturm ATGM designed specifically for the Hind family. Compared to the Mi-24A's 9M17M Falanga ATGMs, the Shturm has slightly lower penetration in exchange for an extended range of 5 km and more than double the flight speed (550 m/s compared to 230 m/s). In fact, the Shturm is one of the fastest ATGMs in the game, which makes it both easy to aim and effective at dealing with SPAAs. The penetration is underwhelming however, and tanks with ERA and/or composite armour can shrug it off. Up to 8 can be carried in total, and 4 can be carried on the outermost pylons without conflicting with other stores.
-Many unguided ground attack weapons are available. The Mi-24A's 57 mm S-5K rockets have been replaced with two new options: S-8KO HEAT rockets that have far better penetration and still come in good quantities, and S-24 HE rockets that are carried singly but pack immense amounts of explosives. With ballistic computer assistance, the S-24s actually be used effective from several kilometers away, especially against lightly armoured vehicles. 250 kg and 500 kg bombs are also available for players who enjoy the novelty of helicopter bombing, now assisted with CCIP from the ballistic computer, but be sure to set an appropriate fuse delay. Finally, 23 mm GSh-23L gun pods are available, but their utility is limited because they do not have significantly higher penetration than the internal gun.
+Many unguided ground attack weapons are available. The Mi-24A's 57 mm S-5K rockets have been replaced with two new options: S-8KO HEAT rockets that have far better penetration and still come in good quantities, and S-24 HE rockets that are carried singly but pack immense amounts of explosives. With ballistic computer assistance, the S-24s actually be used effective from several kilometres away, especially against lightly-armoured vehicles. 250 kg and 500 kg bombs are also available for players who enjoy the novelty of helicopter bombing, now assisted with CCIP from the ballistic computer, but be sure to set an appropriate fuse delay. Finally, 23 mm GSh-23L gun pods are available, but their utility is limited because they do not have significantly higher penetration than the internal gun.
-The last options for the Mi-24V are R-60 and R-60M air-to-air missiles. Soviet jet pilots may find these familiar: they are lightweight and highly maneuverable missiles with low flare resistance. The R-60M is all-aspect and should be used instead of the base R-60 once unlocked. "Aphids" are highly useful for dealing with enemy jets and other helicopters, allowing the Mi-24 to fulfill some SPAA or air superiority duties, but they are not quite on the level of the [[TY-90]] available to Chinese helicopters and can be easily flared by attentive enemies.
+The last options for the Mi-24V are R-60 and R-60M air-to-air missiles. Soviet jet pilots may find these familiar: they are lightweight and highly manoeuvrable missiles with low flare resistance. The R-60M is all-aspect and should be used instead of the base R-60 once unlocked. "Aphids" are highly useful for dealing with enemy jets and other helicopters, allowing the Mi-24 to fulfill some SPAA or air superiority duties, but they are not quite on the level of the [[TY-90]] available to Chinese helicopters and can be easily flared by attentive enemies.
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!--''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
-The Mi-24V has many tools to play with on the battlefield. Like its predecessor, it can be a fun option for rushing with unguided weapons given its high speed, large ordnance capacity, and robust airframe: zooming in at tree-top level to send out storms of S-8s, lob S-24s, or drop 500 kg presents can certainly put the enemy team off balance if they are not expecting helicopters. However the Mi-24's large size and poor agility makes it dangerous to stay near the battlefield once detected, and this playstyle does not make good use of its advanced capabilities. As a second spawn, the Mi-24V can become a very dangerous opponent: a multi-role loadout of 9M114 Shturm ATGMs, R-60M AAMs, and unguided rockets is perfect for destroying ground vehicles and contesting airspace at the same time while not putting the Hind at much risk.
+The Mi-24V has many tools to play with on the battlefield. Like its predecessor, it can be a fun option for rushing with unguided weapons given its high speed, large ordnance capacity, and robust airframe: zooming in at tree-top level to send out volleys of S-8s, lob S-24s, or drop 500 kg presents can certainly put the enemy team off balance if they are not expecting helicopters. However the Mi-24's large size and poor agility makes it dangerous to stay near the battlefield once detected, and this playstyle does not make good use of its advanced capabilities. As a second spawn, the Mi-24V can become a very dangerous opponent: a multi-role loadout of 9M114 Shturm ATGMs, R-60M AAMs, and unguided rockets is perfect for destroying ground vehicles and contesting airspace at the same time while not putting the Hind at much risk.
-The Shturms outrange and definitely outspeed all other contemporary ATGMs like the TOW-2 and HOT-2. The Mi-24V can stay up to 5 km back from the battlefield and engage targets in relative safety. HIRSS, IRCM, and countermeasures prevent enemy MANPADS from easily locking the Hind, try to spot and destroy them before venturing closer to the battlefield. Keep in mind that the Shturms are rather weak however, having both low raw penetration and no tandem warhead. Tanks with composite or reactive armour can often shrug them off from the front and the Mi-24V's 10x maximum optical zoom does not offer enough precision to target weak points outside of a few kilometers. If it is not possible or easy to destroy a target from the front, try attacking from the side or switching to other weapons.
+The Shturms outrange and definitely outspeed all other contemporary ATGMs like the TOW-2 and HOT-2. The Mi-24V can stay up to 5 km back from the battlefield and engage targets in relative safety. HIRSS, IRCM, and countermeasures prevent enemy MANPADS from easily locking the Hind, try to spot and destroy them before venturing closer to the battlefield. Keep in mind that the Shturms are rather weak however, having both low raw penetration and no tandem warhead. Tanks with composite or reactive armour can often shrug them off from the front and the Mi-24V's 10x maximum optical zoom does not offer enough precision to target weak points outside of a few kilometres. If it is not possible or easy to destroy a target from the front, try attacking from the side or switching to other weapons.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO Code: Hind-E) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].
 == General info ==
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 <!-- ''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 ** 1 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine gun (1,470 rpg) + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures
 ** 1 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine gun (1,470 rpg) + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures + IRCM
 === Suspended armament ===
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 == Usage in battles ==
-''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
 === Pros and cons ===
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 ** Can carry 4 R-60M AAM with 30G of overload which is really effective to deal with jet fighters
 ** Can carry 4 S-24 rockets
-** Can carry up to 8 Shturm AGMs
+** Can carry up to 8 Shturm ATGMs, good range and great flight speed
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Yak-B is ineffective against heavily armoured targets
 * Doesn't have access to thermal vision
-* Shturm AGMs are not laser-guided
+* Shturm ATGMs are somewhat weak, insufficient against tanks with composite or reactive armour
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 <!-- ''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}
-{{main|9M114 Shturm|R-60|R-60M|S-8KO|S-24B}}
+{{main|9M114 Shturm|R-60|R-60M|S-8KO|S-24}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
 * Without load
 * 80 x S-8KO rockets
 * 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
-* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
+==== Custom loadout options ====
-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x S-24B rockets
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-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
+|-
-* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
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-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
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-* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
+|-
-* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
+! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
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-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60 missiles
+|-
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60 missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60 missiles
+| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60 missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+|-
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60M missiles
+! 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60M missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+| || || 1 || 1 || ||
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60M missiles
+|-
-* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60M missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+! S-8KO rockets
 == Usage in battles ==

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 * 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 4 x S-24B rockets
-* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 79 x S-8KO rockets
+* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
 * 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
 * 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)