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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->In 1981, a dedicated anti-tank variant of the [[Mi-24V]] was devised, replacing the gunner-controlled, nose-mounted 12.7 mm turret with a pilot-controlled fixed [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|Gsh-30-2K]] twin-barrel 30 mm cannon from an [[Su-25]] for anti-tank duties. The resulting variant, named the Mi-24P, would quickly enter service, and would also be exported alongside the Mi-24V to many countries. One of these countries was East Germany, where the Mi-24P quickly found itself in useful service. Even after the re-unification of Germany, the Mi-24P was one of the very few ex-NVA aircraft types that was deemed "good" enough to be used by the Bundeswehr in active service rather than being sold or scrapped. The Mi-24P would serve with the Bundeswehr for four years before being retired in favor of the EC-665 Tiger for the anti-tank role, with the remaining Mi-24Ps either [[Mi-24P (Italy)|sold to Hungary]] or sent to WTD-61 for further German evaluation and testing. One of the last Mi-24Ps to leave German service was part of Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (HFS-80), being painted with a special "farewell livery" to commemorate its end of service. This specific helicopter would be sold to Hungary shortly after in 1995.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-F'') was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German attack helicopter. This version differentiates from its [[Mi-24P (Germany)|tech tree counterpart]] only by premium bonuses and addition of the retirement livery belonging to Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (Army Aviation Squadron 80) helicopter unit belonging to Unified Germany's Heer that continued to operate Soviet helicopters after reunification. As such, its gameplay is exactly identical to all the other Mi-24Ps ingame, wether its the other German one, the Hungarian one, or the Soviet one. One must heed caution when deploying this aircraft due to its large size and cumbersome controls making it a easy target, but should not completely wimp out of an offensive playstyle thanks to its powerful gun and decent armor and survivability.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-F'') was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German attack helicopter. This version differentiates from its [[Mi-24P (Germany)|tech tree counterpart]] only by premium bonuses and addition of the retirement livery belonging to Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (Army Aviation Squadron 80) helicopter unit belonging to Unified Germany's Heer that continued to operate Soviet helicopters after reunification. As such, its gameplay is exactly identical to all the other Mi-24Ps in-game. One must heed caution when deploying this aircraft due to its large size and cumbersome controls making it a easy target, but should not completely wimp out of an offensive playstyle thanks to its powerful gun and decent armour and survivability.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->In 1981, a dedicated anti-tank variant of the [[Mi-24V]] was devised, replacing the gunner-controlled, nose-mounted 12.7 mm turret with a pilot-controlled fixed [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|Gsh-30-2K]] twin-barrel 30 mm cannon from an [[Su-25]] for anti-tank duties. The resulting variant, named the Mi-24P, would quickly enter service, and would also be exported alongside the Mi-24V to many countries. One of these countries was East Germany, where the Mi-24P quickly found itself in useful service. Even after the re-unification of Germany, the Mi-24P was one of the very few ex-NVA aircraft types that was deemed "good" enough to be used by the Bundeswehr in active service rather than being sold or scrapped. The Mi-24P would serve with the Bundeswehr for four years before being retired in favor of the EC-665 Tiger for the anti-tank role, with the remaining Mi-24Ps either [[Mi-24P (Italy)|sold to Hungary]] or sent to WTD-61 for further German evaluation and testing. One of the last Mi-24Ps to leave German service was part of Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (HFS-80), being painted with a special "farewell livery" to commemorate its end of service. This specific helicopter would be sold to Hungary shortly after in 1995.
-Being the only Warsaw pact helicopter available to German pilots, ◄Mi-24P shows a radical shift of doctrine when compared to NATO helicopters. Big, heavily armoured yet fast, and armed with lethal payload when compared to its West German contemporaries, one can see why Hinds were nicknamed "Devil's Chariots" during their deployment in Afghanistan.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (NATO reporting name: ''Hind-F'') was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German attack helicopter. This version differentiates from its [[Mi-24P (Germany)|tech tree counterpart]] only by premium bonuses and addition of the retirement livery belonging to Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (Army Aviation Squadron 80) helicopter unit belonging to Unified Germany's Heer that continued to operate Soviet helicopters after reunification. As such, its gameplay is exactly identical to all the other Mi-24Ps ingame, wether its the other German one, the Hungarian one, or the Soviet one. One must heed caution when deploying this aircraft due to its large size and cumbersome controls making it a easy target, but should not completely wimp out of an offensive playstyle thanks to its powerful gun and decent armor and survivability.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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 * Without load
 * 2 x R-60 missiles

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 ! [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|23 mm GSh-23L]] cannons (250 rpg)
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 * 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
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-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
+! [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|23 mm GSh-23L]] cannons (250 rpg)
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-! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
+! [[OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|250 kg OFAB-250sv]] bombs
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-! 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs
+! [[FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|500 kg FAB-500M-54]] bombs
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-! S-8KO rockets
+! [[S-8KO]] rockets
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-! 9M114 Shturm missiles
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+! [[R-60]] missiles
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+! [[R-60MK]] missiles
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 Compared to NATO helicopters in the German tech tree, ◄Mi-24P has the ability to perfectly tailor its payload to any battlefield scenario it can encounter.

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 Third, you are equipped with a RWR (radar warning receiver) from the get go. This piece of technology alerts you of active radars on the battlefield, be it ground or air based, and gives you warning when you get radar locked. It also lets you know the position of active radars relative to your helicopter and highlights which radar has locked you.
-Lastly, you can equip a countermeasure launcher with a capacity of 192 of either flares, chaff or combination of both. Those are mounted right behind your wing pylons on the side of the Hind. Flares work against IR tracking missiles, while chaff works against both searching and tracking radar. As more and more SAM/MANPADS vehicles are being added (examples being the Japanese [[Type 93]], Chinese [[PGZ04A]], American [[LAV-AD]], Italian [[SIDAM 25 (Mistral)]], German [[Ozelot]]/[[Gepard 1A2]] and the Soviet [[Strela-10M2]] among others like the [[Machbet]] from Israel), it is ideal to stay at ranges further away than 3-3.5km as these early non-mouse guided SAMs will struggle to gain a lock on you at these ranges. This becomes more important with growing distance, as IR SAMs can't reach your maximum engagement range when you are using Shturms, which have a range of 5km.
+Lastly, you can equip a countermeasure launcher with a capacity of 192 of either flares, chaff or combination of both. Those are mounted right behind your wing pylons on the side of the Hind. Flares work against IR tracking missiles, while chaff works against both searching and tracking radar. As more and more SAM/MANPADS vehicles are being added (examples being the Japanese [[Type 93]], Chinese [[PGZ04A]], American [[LAV-AD]], Italian [[SIDAM 25 (Mistral)]], German [[Ozelot]]/[[Gepard 1A2]] and the Soviet [[Strela-10M2]] among others like the [[Machbet]] from Israel), it is ideal to stay at ranges further away than 3-3.5 km as these early non-mouse guided SAMs will struggle to gain a lock on you at these ranges. This becomes more important with growing distance, as IR SAMs can't reach your maximum engagement range when you are using Shturms, which have a range of 5 km.
 There is no real downside to mounting all of the countermeasures mentioned above, so keep all of them equipped all the time.
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 '''Recommended loadout: 80 x S-8KO rockets, ground belt for your cannon'''
-While you can equip 4 x 250kg of bombs instead of rockets, delivering those precisely is difficult due to lack of aiming reticle. Your ballistic computer is also unable to provide a firing solution, leaving you guessing more than aiming.
+While you can equip 4 x 250 kg of bombs instead of rockets, delivering those precisely is difficult due to lack of aiming reticle. Your ballistic computer is also unable to provide a firing solution, leaving you guessing more than aiming.
 S-8KO rockets present much more precise and overall better choice of armament for this strategy.
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 That being said, that does not mean you cannot destroy those enemies. You just need to be smart about deploying your Shturms.
-You should avoid engaging enemy tanks from the frontal arc. More often than not, a tank's strongest armour is its turret face and frontal plate on the hull. For example, Leopard 2A5s turret front is able to resist chemical munitions with penetration of up to 1300 mm. On top of that, enemies can spot incoming missiles aimed at them when they are coming from the front, allowing them to take defensive measures, such as moving behind cover or deploying smoke grenades.
+You should avoid engaging enemy tanks from the frontal arc. More often than not, a tank's strongest armour is its turret face and frontal plate on the hull. For example, Leopard 2A5s turret front is able to resist chemical munitions with penetration of up to 1,300 mm. On top of that, enemies can spot incoming missiles aimed at them when they are coming from the front, allowing them to take defensive measures, such as moving behind cover or deploying smoke grenades.
 Instead, exploit Hind's high speed to get on flanks and hit enemy tanks from the side. Even with reactive armour, a well aimed hit below the turret of T-90A can detonate its ammo carousel and destroy it in one hit. While most players do check their corners and flanks, they usually wont spot missile coming from an elevated position until it's too late.
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''
 {{AirManufacturer Mil}}
 {{Germany helicopters}}

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 * Has AAMs and ATGMs together in a loadout
 * Ability to equip 8 x Shturm missiles at once
-* 30mm can be deadly against air targets
+* 30 mm can be deadly against air targets
 '''Cons:'''

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 {{main|Mi-24P_(Germany)#History|l1=History of the Mi-24P in NVA service}}
-The delivery of this helicopter is likely been inspired by the retirement delivery of 96+45 (NVA no.442 ; built no. 340335)<ref>https://www.airhistory.net/photo/331213/9645</ref> of the Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (Army Aviation Squadron 80) in German Army as one of their fleet of ex-DDR equipment; according to source, this helicopter were then sold to Hungary in 1995 (No. 335) as an addition to their fleet of Mi-24.<ref>https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ru/mil/mi-24-ddr.html</ref><ref>https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9984728 Where this helicopter was spotted up to June 2019</ref>
+The livery of this helicopter was likely inspired by the retirement livery of 9645 (NVA no.442; built no. 340335)<ref>https://www.airhistory.net/photo/331213/9645</ref> of the Heeresfliegerstaffel 80 (Army Aviation Squadron 80) in the German Army as one of their fleet of ex-DDR equipment; according to sources, this helicopter was sold to Hungary in 1995 (No. 335) as an addition to their fleet of Mi-24.<ref>https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ru/mil/mi-24-ddr.html</ref><ref>https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9984728 Where this helicopter was spotted in June 2019</ref>
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