Marder 1A3 - Revision history

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U136146036: /* General info */ Updates to 20mm APDS performance and armor.

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‎General info: Updates to 20mm APDS performance and armor.

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‎Pros and cons: Minor clarification.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' The text within these arrows are not to be deleted -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was one of the most important upgrades of the regarding the Marder IFV. The vehicle was produced from 1988 to 1998 and around 2100 A1/A2 models were upgraded to this standard. The vehicle received a more capable armour, intended to resist the 30mm autocannon used by the BMP-2, which started to be fielded by East Germany around the time of the upgrade. Other changes included an upgraded turret and upgrades to the suspension to avoid loss of mobility due to the increased weight.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was one of the most important upgrades of the Marder IFV. The vehicle was produced from 1988 to 1998 and around 2100 A1/A2 models were upgraded to this standard. The vehicle received more capable armour, intended to resist the 30 mm autocannon used by the BMP-2, which had started to be fielded by East Germany around the time of the upgrade. Other changes included an upgraded turret and upgrades to the suspension to avoid loss of mobility due to the increased weight.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]]. The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility, as the new DM63 rounds can now penetrate BMP based hulls from 500 meters and other comparable IFVs within 1000 meters, disregard the Warrior.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]]. The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the difference in in-game performance in negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lie in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility, as the new DM63 rounds can now penetrate BMP based hulls from 500 metres and other comparable IFVs within 1,000 metres, besides the Warrior.
 == General info ==
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 The Marder 1A3's armour is minimal, albeit superior to it's predecessor's thanks to the use of High Hardness Rolled Armor instead of Rolled Homogenous Armor. This variant of the Marder is the only Marder based hull capable of deflecting APDS from the BMP-2 and similar IFVs. However, it is still very vulnerable to regular tank shells. Therefore, you must be careful to not expose the vehicle.
 '''Armour type:'''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' The text within these arrows are not to be deleted -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was one of the most important upgrades of the regarding the Marder IFV. The vehicle was produced from 1988 to 1998 and around 2100 A1/A2 models were upgraded to this standard. The vehicle received a more capable armour, intended to resist the 30mm autocannon used by the BMP-2, which started to be fielded by East Germany around the time of the upgrade. Other changes included an upgraded turret and upgrades to the suspension to avoid loss of mobility due to the increased weight.
-The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility, as the new DM63 rounds can now penetrate BMP based hulls from 500 meters and other comparable IFVs within 1000 meters, disregard the Warrior.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]]. The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility, as the new DM63 rounds can now penetrate BMP based hulls from 500 meters and other comparable IFVs within 1000 meters, disregard the Warrior.
 == General info ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Marder 1A3 is best used carefully, since most shells will penetrate your armour easily. The best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher or turret, since the crew are slightly below the turret, there is a lower chance of them being hit by solid AP. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy close air support and helicopters. The 20 mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.
+The Marder 1A3 is best used carefully, since most shells will penetrate your armour easily. The best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher or turret due to the smaller target. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy close air support and helicopters. The 20mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]].
-The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility.
+The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility, as the new DM63 rounds can now penetrate BMP based hulls from 500 meters and other comparable IFVs within 1000 meters, disregard the Warrior.
 == General info ==
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 '''Armour type:'''
-* High hardness rolled armour (hull front and roof)
+* High hardness rolled armour (hull front, roof, additional side plates)
-* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull sides and rear, gun mount, cupola)
+* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull sides, rear, gun mount, cupola)
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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]].
-The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range protection is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1.
+The {{PAGENAME}} is an improvement over the [[Marder A1-]] with additional High Hardness armour plates added all around the hull that should make the vehicle better withstand autocannon rounds from a distance, though close-range side armour is still paper thin. The additional armour implemented on {{PAGENAME}} does make the vehicle slightly heavier than the Marder A1-, and while this should make impact mobility slightly, the differences in in-game performance is negligible. Armament between the two variants are similar too, with the {{PAGENAME}} retaining the MILAN ATGM and the 20 mm Rh202 autocannon. Armament differences lay in the APDS availability for the 20 mm autocannon and the removal of the rear-mounted MG3A1, which greatly improves versatility.
 == General info ==
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 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' The text within these arrows are not to be deleted -->
-The Marder 1A3's armour is minimal, even if a bit better than its predecessor's. Any calibre larger than light machine guns (7.62 mm) can penetrate the vehicle. Therefore you must be careful and not expose the vehicle.
+The Marder 1A3's armour is minimal, albeit superior to it's predecessor's thanks to the use of High Hardness Rolled Armor instead of Rolled Homogenous Armor. This variant of the Marder is the only Marder based hull capable of deflecting APDS from the BMP-2 and similar IFVs. However, it is still very vulnerable to regular tank shells. Therefore, you must be careful to not expose the vehicle.
 '''Armour type:'''
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Marder 1A3 is best used carefully, since everything can penetrate your armour no matter what. The best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher or turret, since the crew are below the turret, there is a lower chance of them being hit. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy close air support and helicopters. The 20 mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. One enemy type worth noting are the BMP-1 and BMP-2. The two IFV's frontal armour is just angled enough to bounce the Marder's 20 mm rounds, and they without a doubt can fire back. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.
+The Marder 1A3 is best used carefully, since most shells will penetrate your armour easily. The best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher or turret, since the crew are slightly below the turret, there is a lower chance of them being hit by solid AP. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy close air support and helicopters. The 20 mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Mediocre survivability
-* Poor gun depression of the ATGM Launcher limits close-range effectiveness when firing from behind hills
+* Poor gun depression of the ATGM Launcher limits close-range effectiveness when the tank is on a high incline, and sometimes the missile will hit the ground regardless.
 * Large profile
 * Only carries 4 ATGMs

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 * Equipped with thermal sights and laser rangefinder
 * 20 mm autocannon is effective against aircraft
-* Removal of the machine gun from the [[Marder A1-]] provides better view of the back
+* Removal of the rear unmanned machine gun from the [[Marder A1-]] provides better view of the back
 * Addition of the DM63 APDS belts increases the effectiveness of the 20 mm

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 == Usage in battles ==
-The Marder is best used carefully, since everything can penetrate your armour no matter what, the best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher oor turret, since the crew are below the turret, there is a lower chance of them being hit. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy Close Air Support and Helicopters. The 20mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. Enemies worth noting are; BMP-1/2, their frontal armour is just angled enough to bounce your 20mm rounds, and they withoutt a doubt can fire back. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
+The Marder is best used carefully, since everything can penetrate your armour no matter what, the best tactic when hunting for enemy tanks is to hide behind cover and only expose your missile launcher or turret, since the crew are below the turret, there is a lower chance of them being hit. The Marder is highly capable of taking on air targets such as enemy Close Air Support and Helicopters. The 20mm gun is best used for air targets or enemy light tanks. Enemies worth noting are; BMP-1/2, their frontal armour is just angled enough to bounce your 20mm rounds, and they without a doubt can fire back. If played correctly, the Marder can be a terror to the enemy team for both ground targets and air targets.<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:MILAN/Ammunition|MILAN}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====