MS-473 - Revision history

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U38088265: /* Description */

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‎Description

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Completed article

U31139476: /* MS-473 */ completed history + primary armament

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‎MS-473: completed history + primary armament

U31139476: /* History */

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‎History

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‎Additional armament: Done half of the article

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U31139476: /* Usage in battles */ added usage in battles

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‎Usage in battles: added usage in battles

U31139476: /* Pros and cons */

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‎Pros and cons

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‎Primary armament

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 {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
-The main armament consists of only two single 40mm guns positioned one in the front and one in the back of the Motor gun boat, this armament is pier good against almost any enemy target, thanks to the selection of shots and penetration, the belt HE very useful for destroying light targets such as other coastal ships and enemy aircraft, while the belt AP even though it causes little damage can penetrate even motor torpedo boats and damage them the main advice is to target the engines to remove the enemy crew faster
+The main armament consists of only two single 40 mm guns positioned one in the front and one in the back of the Motor gun boat, this armament is pier good against almost any enemy target, thanks to the selection of shots and penetration, the belt HE very useful for destroying light targets such as other coastal ships and enemy aircraft, while the belt AP even though it causes little damage can penetrate even motor torpedo boats and damage them the main advice is to target the engines to remove the enemy crew faster
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-MS-473 unlike the [[MS-472]] doesn't carry torpedoes which are very useful for any naval target so you'll have to watch out for enemy destroyers and ships with good survivability because your two 40mm don't kill instantly you'll need some time to destroy the enemy target in fact you'll aim to destroy more at enemy coastal ships, instead you need to start learning how to shoot at enemy aircraft being that you are only equipped with main armament then controlled by you, but it is not just the difference of the lack of torpedoes, in fact the MS-473 carries 8 '''''[[B TG 100 depth charge|B TG 100]]''''' depth charges instead of torpedoes, these charges are always useful against any enemy ship and manages to create holes in the hull of enemy ships that take a long time to be closed, this will be your only armament against ships much larger than you, in the end always try to go out suddenly and shoot at the enemy never frontal collision because if not you can not use the second 40mm in your possession, and remember to check the tide during the game because if you find it calm you will not have problems to aim at the enemy instead if it is moved it will be much more difficult and you will have to adjust your speed to be able to aim well.
+MS-473 unlike the [[MS-472]] doesn't carry torpedoes which are very useful for any naval target so you'll have to watch out for enemy destroyers and ships with good survivability because your two 40 mm don't kill instantly you'll need some time to destroy the enemy target in fact you'll aim to destroy more at enemy coastal ships, instead you need to start learning how to shoot at enemy aircraft being that you are only equipped with main armament then controlled by you, but it is not just the difference of the lack of torpedoes, in fact the MS-473 carries 8 [[B TG 100 depth charge|B TG 100]] depth charges instead of torpedoes, these charges are always useful against any enemy ship and manages to create holes in the hull of enemy ships that take a long time to be closed, this will be your only armament against ships much larger than you, in the end always try to go out suddenly and shoot at the enemy never frontal collision because if not you can not use the second 40 mm in your possession, and remember to check the tide during the game because if you find it calm you will not have problems to aim at the enemy instead if it is moved it will be much more difficult and you will have to adjust your speed to be able to aim well.
 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
-* Adeguate armament
+* Adequate armament
 * Effective speed and acceleration
 '''Cons:'''
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 * No torpedoes
 * Mediocre survivability
 == History ==
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 Before modernization and Italy's entry into NATO, the ship was classified MV-613, after entry renamed MS 613 and eventually after the radiation of the old destroyed units it was named MS 473.
-After World War II in 1957 together with MS 24 she was put under modernization, modernization decided by the General Staff consisted only of some modifications to the hull and outfitting, embarkation of new more powerful engines specifically CRM 185-ASM of 1500 HP and eventually outfitting with more modern and efficient armaments.
+After World War II in 1957 together with MS 24 she was put under modernization, modernization decided by the General Staff consisted only of some modifications to the hull and outfitting, embarkation of new more powerful engines specifically CRM 185-ASM of 1,500 HP and eventually outfitting with more modern and efficient armaments.
-The MS 473 was modernized by removing 2 front 553mm torpedo launchers, and 2 side 450mm pulse launchers, the 20/65mm Breda towers present in the torpedo boat were replaced with single 40mm Bofors guns.
+The MS 473 was modernized by removing 2 front 553 mm torpedo launchers, and 2 side 450 mm pulse launchers, the 20/65 mm Breda towers present in the torpedo boat were replaced with single 40 mm Bofors guns.
 After various training activities and coastal control missions, MS-473 was decommissioned in Taranto on Dec. 1, 1974, and transferred to the reserve, was not scrapped instead was repainted and placed in the Naval Historical Museum in Venice.

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 == Description ==
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-Built with the nomenclature MS 31, launched on June 18, 1942, completed and commissioned in the 2ndSquadron on June 24, 1942, she was already sent to the Sicilian Channel where she participated in several operations against the British Navy, one of the most special operations were during the Battle of Mid-August, but not only participated in the ambush south of Ras Mustafa in which she destroyed a British ship, in 1943 after the Italian armistice she was part of the Italian Co-Belligerent Navy in which she helped the Allies in special missions one of which most famous was the recovery of British saboteurs in Fano where she destroyed an enemy train, after World War II in 1957 she was put under modernization, where the engine was replaced with a more powerful one and the change of the two 20mm Breda with two 40mm Bofors, she was renamed MS 473, but during this era the ship would perform training and coastal control activities, only to be removed from Service in Taranto on December 1, 1974, she was transferred to Venice and is now on display at the Venice Nautical History Museum.
+Built as the MS-31, this vessel was launched on June 18, 1942, and was swiftly completed and commissioned into the 2nd Squadron on June 24, 1942. It was promptly deployed to the Strait of Sicily, where it engaged in several operations against the British Navy. Among its notable endeavours was its involvement in the Battle of Mid-August (Operation Pedestal), as well as a successful ambush south of Ra’s Muşţafá where it sank a British ship. Following the Italian armistice in 1943, the vessel joined the Italian Co-Belligerent Navy and took part in special missions, including the renowned operation that involved rescuing British saboteurs in Fano, where it destroyed an enemy train. In 1957, the vessel underwent modernization, with the installation of a more powerful engine and the replacement of its two 20 mm Breda cannons with two 40 mm Bofors guns. It was subsequently renamed MS-473. During this period, the ship primarily engaged in training exercises and coastal control duties. On December 1, 1974, it was decommissioned in Taranto and subsequently transferred to Venice, where it is now on display at the Venice Nautical History Museum.
-The MS-473 added in the game with the Italian Naval Tech Tree in the [[Update "Starfighters"|"Starfighters" update,]]  is a torpedo boat of two single Bofors 40mm emplacements very well manages to inflict damage to almost any naval air enemy, as additional armament it carries only 8 depth charges quite useless which however when you manage to find a naval target close enough to you you can use them to cause serious flaws or the immediate destruction of the enemy ship, the manoeuvrability and speed is not bad at all, it is quite good you will manage to dodge enemy strikes quite well, the survivability is comparable to all other ships of the CRDA 60(t) class.
+Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the MS-473 is equipped with two single Bofors 40 mm guns, which are highly effective against most naval and aerial targets. As additional armament, it carries 8 depth charges; although they prove to be somewhat impractical, in close encounters with a naval target, they can be used to inflict significant damage or destroy the enemy vessel outright. The manoeuvrability and speed of the ship are sufficient, allowing for evasion of enemy attacks. In terms of survivability, it is comparable to other ships of the CRDA 60(t) class.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian motor gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
+Built with the nomenclature MS 31, launched on June 18, 1942, completed and commissioned in the 2ndSquadron on June 24, 1942, she was already sent to the Sicilian Channel where she participated in several operations against the British Navy, one of the most special operations were during the Battle of Mid-August, but not only participated in the ambush south of Ras Mustafa in which she destroyed a British ship, in 1943 after the Italian armistice she was part of the Italian Co-Belligerent Navy in which she helped the Allies in special missions one of which most famous was the recovery of British saboteurs in Fano where she destroyed an enemy train, after World War II in 1957 she was put under modernization, where the engine was replaced with a more powerful one and the change of the two 20mm Breda with two 40mm Bofors, she was renamed MS 473, but during this era the ship would perform training and coastal control activities, only to be removed from Service in Taranto on December 1, 1974, she was transferred to Venice and is now on display at the Venice Nautical History Museum.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''
+The survival of MS-473 mainly is not one of the best but still, it can withstand various damage from enemies up to 40mm calibre, after this calibre it is easily destroyed by anything it is not to be used in confrontation but flank enemy boats and ships, the armour itself is almost the same as all other CRDA 60(t) boats.
 === Mobility ===
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 The MS 473 was modernized by removing 2 front 553mm torpedo launchers, and 2 side 450mm pulse launchers, the 20/65mm Breda towers present in the torpedo boat were replaced with single 40mm Bofors guns.
-After various training activities and coastal control missions, MS-473 was decommissioned in Taranto on Dec. 1, 1974, decommissioned on Oct. 1, 1975, and transferred, was not scrapped instead was repainted and placed in the Naval Historical Museum in Venice.
+After various training activities and coastal control missions, MS-473 was decommissioned in Taranto on Dec. 1, 1974, and transferred to the reserve, was not scrapped instead was repainted and placed in the Naval Historical Museum in Venice.
 == Media ==

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 {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
-''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
+The main armament consists of only two single 40mm guns positioned one in the front and one in the back of the Motor gun boat, this armament is pier good against almost any enemy target, thanks to the selection of shots and penetration, the belt HE very useful for destroying light targets such as other coastal ships and enemy aircraft, while the belt AP even though it causes little damage can penetrate even motor torpedo boats and damage them the main advice is to target the engines to remove the enemy crew faster
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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 After the end of WW2, even though they were to be handed over to the U.S. because of the Peace Treaty, she remained in service with the Italian Navy, after a certain period of inactivity, she became part of the Coastal Forces Group, being employed for exercises in the Adriatic, later transferred to the dependencies of the Gruppo Forze Costiere, in 1957, together with the MS 24, she went into reserve and put under modernization.
-=== MS-473 ===
+=== MS 473 ===
-The MS-473 is a sister ship of MS-472 in terms of post-war service. It was converted into a motor gun boat.
+Before modernization and Italy's entry into NATO, the ship was classified MV-613, after entry renamed MS 613 and eventually after the radiation of the old destroyed units it was named MS 473.
 == Media ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 * [[MS-472]]
 * [[MV-611]]

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 == History ==
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-{{main|MS-472#History|l1=History of the MS-472}}
+{{main|CRDA60t (Family)|l1=Related development}}
 === '''MS 31''' ===
 Launched on June 18, 1942, CRDA at Monfacone, built and commissioned on June 24, 1942, was assigned to the 2°Squadriglia, transferred to bases in the Sicilian Channel in late July 1942, in the same month specifically on the 12th and 13th participated in operations against the British convoy bound for Malta during the Battle of Mid-August, on the night of August 13, 1943, MS 31, under the command of Lt. Calvani, was in an ambush south of Ras Mustafa, which had intercepted a signal to discover MS 22, found an enemy formation just south of Kelibia, was spotted by enemy ships and retreated only to later attack from 700 meters with torpedoes, the targets whose torpedoes were fired were a destroyer and a steamer, the only target to be hit being the steamer Glenorchy which sank soon after.
-Between 1942 and 1943 it participated in various attack, rescue and escort operations, on the date of the armistice MS 31 was in Taranto and remained stationed at that base until October 10, 1943, on the same date it moved to Brindisi joining the reconstituted 1°Flottiglia Motosiluranti,, also in the same month with MS 33 and MS 74, it was stationed in Termoli from where it began operations against the Germans in the Adriatic, in which it participated until the spring of 1945.
+Between 1942 and 1943 it participated in various attack, rescue and escort operations, on the date of the armistice MS 31 was in Taranto and remained stationed at that base until October 10, 1943, on the same date it moved to Brindisi joining the reconstituted 1°Flottiglia Motosiluranti, also in the same month with MS 33 and MS 74, it was stationed in Termoli from where it began operations against the Germans in the Adriatic, in which it participated until the spring of 1945.
 On the evening of June 19, 1944, under the command of Vessel Scialdone, together with MS 64 she carried out a daring operation to land and recover British saboteurs near Fano. Having carried out the release and recovery of the saboteurs, who had undermined the coastal railroad, she together with MS 64 carried out a firing action against a stationary German military train near the beach, MS 64 and MS 31 fired for a good 5 minutes in which they caused the tank car full of gasoline to explode, and numerous fires on the train after ceasing fire the two units pulled out and headed for Termoli, where they returned the next morning.
-After the end of WW2, even though they were to be handed over to the U.S. because of the Peace Treaty, she remained in service with the Italian Navy, after a certain period of inactivity, she became part of the Coastal Forces Group, being employed for exercises in the Adriatic, later transferred to the dependencies of the Gruppo Forze Costiere,, in 1957, together with the MS 24, she went into reserve and put under modernization.
+After the end of WW2, even though they were to be handed over to the U.S. because of the Peace Treaty, she remained in service with the Italian Navy, after a certain period of inactivity, she became part of the Coastal Forces Group, being employed for exercises in the Adriatic, later transferred to the dependencies of the Gruppo Forze Costiere, in 1957, together with the MS 24, she went into reserve and put under modernization.
 === MS-473 ===

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
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-''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''
+The speed of the MS-473 is quite good, and thanks to its manoeuvrability that gives you the ability to curve quickly you can dodge several hits from enemy ships, the acceleration is also not bad.
 {{NavalMobility}}
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 {{main|B TG 100 depth charge}}
-''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''
+The only additional armament that the MS-473 carries are depth charges that are very useless because of the speed of your vehicle and your survivability, but if you happen to have a naval enemy very close to you use them because they will be able to destroy them quickly or create a hole in them that is difficult to repair.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 {{main|MS-472#History|l1=History of the MS-472}}
 === MS-473 ===
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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+* [[MS-472]]
+* [[MV-611]]
 == External links ==

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 | about = Italian motor gun boat '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = other versions
-| link = MS (Family)
+| link = CRDA60t (Family)
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''

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		+	* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|HEFI-T\|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
		+	* '''40 mm HE clips:''' {{Annotation\|HEFI-T\|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|HEFI-T\|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|HEFI-T\|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}
		+	* '''40 mm AP clips:''' {{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|AP-T\|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation\|HEFI-T\|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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		+	{{:Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)/Ammunition\|HEFI-T, AP-T}}

	=== Additional armament ===		=== Additional armament ===