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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The MC 485 can [[S-boot (Family)|Schnellboots]]. Making a use of all your firepower requires you to expose an entire broadside - if an enemy sprays your entire broadside, you'll most likely die right away. This creates an interesting play style, where one has to either approach or depart from the enemy at a sufficient angle to make use of at least two of your guns, while preferably avoiding being fired upon, and thus - playing on the outskirts of the main engagements. Its excellent top-speed is a huge enabler in playing such a harassing role.
+The MC 485 can be used in much the same way as the other [[S-boot (Family)|Schnellboots]]. Making a use of all your firepower requires you to expose an entire broadside - if an enemy sprays your entire broadside, you'll most likely die right away. This creates an interesting play style, where one has to either approach or depart from the enemy at a sufficient angle to make use of at least two of your guns, while preferably avoiding being fired upon, and thus - playing on the outskirts of the main engagements. Its excellent top-speed is a huge enabler in playing such a harassing role.
 Much like other fast boats, it finds a great use in contesting the capture points and flanking the enemies. On larger maps it might be beneficial to go for a more distant capture points, often these dedicated to the bluewater vessels, as the MC 485 will likely be the first vessel to arrive at the location, long before lumbering destroyers get close enough to kill you and prevent capture.

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 == Description ==
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-With the Presidential Decree of 11 February 1952, several torpedo motorboats of the Elco and Vosper types were acquired, but one of them in particular was the S-26 of German origin renamed MC-485, part of the 1 February 1952, the patrol boat (MV) 621 was registered in the State Military Naval Register, the unit was a German torpedo boat of the S-26 type which survived the war and was captured by Great Britain in 1945, in 1948 it had been sold to private individuals for commercial use under the name of ''Torus'', it was acquired at the beginning of 1952 and sent to the La Spezia Military Arsenal to be refitted, on 1 November 1952 she was reclassified as motor torpedo boat, taking the name MS 621 and as NATO pennant number (P) 460, in 1953 the construction work was completed, on 1 January 1954 she was given the new name MS 485 and the pennant number changed to (P) 485, on 10 September 1954 the boat got a new name MC 485 and was classified as a motor cannon boat, in 1963 she was sent to the Taranto Arsenal for a cycle of extraordinary works, but as the hull had given way in several places, it was not considered advisable to proceed with her refit, and the unit was laid up on 1 July 1964 and then decommissioned on 1 March 1966.
+With the Presidential Decree of 11 February 1952, several torpedo motorboats of the Elco and Vosper types were acquired, but one of them in particular was a German torpedo boat of the S-26 type, which survived the war and was captured by Great Britain in 1945. In 1948, it was sold to private individuals for commercial use under the name of ''Torus''. It was acquired by the Italian Navy at the beginning of 1952 and sent to the La Spezia Military Arsenal to be refitted, reclassified as motor torpedo boat on 1 November 1952, taking the name MS 621 and NATO pennant number (P) 460. Construction work was completed in 1953. On 1 January 1954, she was given the new name MS 485 and the pennant number changed to (P) 485. On 10 September 1954, the boat was renamed MC 485 and classified as a motor cannon boat. In 1963, she was sent to the Taranto Arsenal for a cycle of extraordinary works, but as the hull had given way in several places, it was not considered advisable to proceed with her refit, and the unit was laid up on 1 July 1964 and then decommissioned on 1 March 1966.
-The MC-485 introduced in the [[Update "La Royale"|"La Royale" Update]], as a Battle Pass reward vehicle: [[Battle Pass: Season XII, "Armour Breaking Ambusher"|Season XII, "Armour Breaking Ambusher"]], is a German Schnellboot class ship modified by the Italians with radar, 2 Italian 40mm cannons and the replacement of the German torpedoes with Italian ones, being Premium grants more PR and SL, the ship has good manoeuvrability and firepower thanks to the two 40mm Bofors mounted at the rear that guarantee continuous damage and penetration of enemy boats, but as they are positioned behind the guns cannot aim frontally, this causes a major weakness to the ship at the front the survivability of the Schnellboot is very low, but is always compensated for by the speed and manoeuvrability that helps you to aim and make surprise attacks on larger ships with torpedoes
+Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season XII, "Armour Breaking Ambusher"]], MC 485 is a German Schnellboot class ship modified by the Italians with radar, two Italian 40 mm cannons, and the replacement of the German torpedoes with Italian ones. The ship has good manoeuvrability and firepower thanks to the two 40 mm Bofors cannons mounted at the rear that guarantee continuous damage and penetration of enemy boats, but as they are positioned behind the guns cannot aim frontally, which causes a major weakness to attacks from the front. The survivability of the Schnellboot is very low, but it is compensated for by the speed and manoeuvrability that helps you to aim and make surprise attacks on larger ships with torpedoes.
 == General info ==
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 [[File:MC 485 propellers.jpg|thumb|Three propellers of the MC 485 in the Deforming Camouflage]]
 <!-- ''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.'' -->
 With a top speed of 101 km/h, the MC 485 can beat even the hydrofoils in a straight line. It's one of the faster naval vessels in the game, making it perfect for capturing the points and relocating to more comfortable locations when dealing with a bluewater vessels. For its large size, the vessel remains relatively manoeuvrable, being able to even dodge incoming high-calibre projectiles. That being said, its large size also impacts the turning circle, making it easier to crash into islands or other surface obstacles while manoeuvring in narrow areas of the map designed for smaller coastal vessels.
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-Much like all the premium vessels, MC 485 comes with all modifications unlocked and installed. If used in a Coastal matches, it might be best to uninstall the Torpedo mode modification, in order to trade shorter range for a much higher speed of the Tipo L torpedoes. When pulling MC into the high BR bluewater matches, it's best to leave it installed, as these 8 km range give a great utility.
+Much like all premium vessels, MC 485 comes with all modifications unlocked and installed. If used in Coastal matches, it might be best to uninstall the Torpedo mode modification, in order to trade shorter range for a much higher speed of the Tipo L torpedoes. When taking the MC 485 into higher BR bluewater matches, it's best to leave it installed, as the 8 km range give them great utility.
 == Armament ==
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 {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
-The main weapons of the MC 485 are two Bofors L/60 Mark 3. Their firing angles make it impossible to engage enemy warships directly front and aft to the vessel, making it tricky to use, but the overall firepower for a BR 2.7 is relatively impressive. It is, however, lacking when pulled into a high BR matches.
+The main weapons of the MC 485 are two Bofors L/60 Mark 3. Their firing angles make it impossible to engage enemy warships directly front and aft of the vessel, making it tricky to use, but the overall firepower is relatively impressive for its BR. It is, however, lacking when pulled into a high BR matches.
 In terms of the ammunition choice, the Universal or APT magazines are recommended against surface targets, while HET magazines are best used against aerial targets.
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 {{main|S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L (533 mm)}}
-The 533 mm Tipo L torpedoes some of the best that Italy has to offer, featuring a great combination of range and speed, while still maintaining a decently sized, 270 kg, warhead. While it will struggle against larger warships, especially these equipped in a torpedo bulges, it's sufficient to deal with lesser targets.
+The 533 mm Tipo L torpedoes are some of the best that Italy has to offer, featuring a great combination of range and speed, while still maintaining a decently sized, 270 kg, warhead. While it will struggle against larger warships, especially these equipped in a torpedo bulges, it's sufficient to deal with lesser targets.
-For matches with destroyers, it's best to keep the torpedo mode installed, as increasing that range from 4 to 8 km makes a difference between life and death. But in the BR 2.7 matches, full of coastal vessels, it's best to uninstall it and benefit from a small (13%) increase in speed.
+For matches with destroyers, it's best to keep the torpedo mode installed, as increasing that range from 4 to 8 km makes a difference between life and death. However, against coastal vessels, it's best to uninstall it and benefit from a small (13%) increase in speed.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 '''Cons:'''
 * Very little armour, allowing almost any calibre to penetrate it
 * No forward or aft-firing guns
 * No access to mines, commonly found on other Schnellboots

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-With the Presidential Decree of 11 February 1952, several torpedo motorboats of the Elco and Vosper types were acquired, but one of them in particular was the S-26 of German origin renamed MC-485, part of the 1 February 1952, the patrol boat (MV) 621 was registered in the State Military Naval Register, the unit was a German torpedo boat of the S-26 type which survived the war and was captured by Great Britain in 1945, in 1948 it had been sold to private individuals for commercial use under the name of ''Torus'', it was acquired at the beginning of 1952 and sent to the La Spezia Military Arsenal to be refitted, on 1 November 1952 she was reclassified as torpedo motor torpedo boat, taking the name MS 621 and as NATO pennant number (P) 460, in 1953 the construction work was completed, on 1 January 1954 she was given the new name MC 485 and the pennant number changed to (P) 485 and was classified as a motor torpedo boat, in 1963 she was sent to the Taranto Arsenal for a cycle of extraordinary works, but as the hull had given way in several places, it was not considered advisable to proceed with her refit, and the unit was laid up on 1 July 1964 and then decommissioned on 1 March 1966.
+With the Presidential Decree of 11 February 1952, several torpedo motorboats of the Elco and Vosper types were acquired, but one of them in particular was the S-26 of German origin renamed MC-485, part of the 1 February 1952, the patrol boat (MV) 621 was registered in the State Military Naval Register, the unit was a German torpedo boat of the S-26 type which survived the war and was captured by Great Britain in 1945, in 1948 it had been sold to private individuals for commercial use under the name of ''Torus'', it was acquired at the beginning of 1952 and sent to the La Spezia Military Arsenal to be refitted, on 1 November 1952 she was reclassified as motor torpedo boat, taking the name MS 621 and as NATO pennant number (P) 460, in 1953 the construction work was completed, on 1 January 1954 she was given the new name MS 485 and the pennant number changed to (P) 485, on 10 September 1954 the boat got a new name MC 485 and was classified as a motor cannon boat, in 1963 she was sent to the Taranto Arsenal for a cycle of extraordinary works, but as the hull had given way in several places, it was not considered advisable to proceed with her refit, and the unit was laid up on 1 July 1964 and then decommissioned on 1 March 1966.
 The MC-485 introduced in the [[Update "La Royale"|"La Royale" Update]], as a Battle Pass reward vehicle: [[Battle Pass: Season XII, "Armour Breaking Ambusher"|Season XII, "Armour Breaking Ambusher"]], is a German Schnellboot class ship modified by the Italians with radar, 2 Italian 40mm cannons and the replacement of the German torpedoes with Italian ones, being Premium grants more PR and SL, the ship has good manoeuvrability and firepower thanks to the two 40mm Bofors mounted at the rear that guarantee continuous damage and penetration of enemy boats, but as they are positioned behind the guns cannot aim frontally, this causes a major weakness to the ship at the front the survivability of the Schnellboot is very low, but is always compensated for by the speed and manoeuvrability that helps you to aim and make surprise attacks on larger ships with torpedoes

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''
+Unlike most low-BR vessels, Schnellboots have an armoured bridge, with 10 mm rolled homogeneous steel sloped between 2 and 76°, which makes it relatively rare to lose control over the vessel. While this, combined with a relatively large size, might make the vessel appear to be very survivable, in reality it's a fragile vessel. A mediocre crew count, few internal compartments, wooden hull, and the necessity to expose its sides to deliver the bulk of the firepower, make it an easy target to destroy.
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 === Modifications and economy ===
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 == Armament ==
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 {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
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+The main weapons of the MC 485 are two Bofors L/60 Mark 3. Their firing angles make it impossible to engage enemy warships directly front and aft to the vessel, making it tricky to use, but the overall firepower for a BR 2.7 is relatively impressive. It is, however, lacking when pulled into a high BR matches.
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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 {{main|S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L (533 mm)}}
-''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''
+The 533 mm Tipo L torpedoes some of the best that Italy has to offer, featuring a great combination of range and speed, while still maintaining a decently sized, 270 kg, warhead. While it will struggle against larger warships, especially these equipped in a torpedo bulges, it's sufficient to deal with lesser targets.
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The MC 485 can [[S-boot (Family)|Schnellboots]]. Making a use of all your firepower requires you to expose an entire broadside - if an enemy sprays your entire broadside, you'll most likely die right away. This creates an interesting play style, where one has to either approach or depart from the enemy at a sufficient angle to make use of at least two of your guns, while preferably avoiding being fired upon, and thus - playing on the outskirts of the main engagements. Its excellent top-speed is a huge enabler in playing such a harassing role.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Fast and very agile vessel
 '''Cons:'''
 * Very little armour, allowing almost any calibre to penetrate it
 == History ==
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 * [[wt:en/news/8360-development-battle-pass-vehicles-mc-485-en|[Devblog] Battle Pass vehicles: MC 485]]
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 {{Italy boats}}
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+With a top speed of 101 km/h, the MC 485 can beat even the hydrofoils in a straight line. It's one of the faster naval vessels in the game, making it perfect for capturing the points and relocating to more comfortable locations when dealing with a bluewater vessels. For its large size, the vessel remains relatively manoeuvrable, being able to even dodge incoming high-calibre projectiles. That being said, its large size also impacts the turning circle, making it easier to crash into islands or other surface obstacles while manoeuvring in narrow areas of the map designed for smaller coastal vessels.
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 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
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