MARS 15 - Revision history

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U74396666: New Description Project - France Priority: Tanks - MARS 15

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New Description Project - France Priority: Tanks - MARS 15

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‎Pros and cons: the vehicle has NVD

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=651|rbMinHp=371}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=620|rbMinHp=354}}
-The MARS 15 is a very mobile and nimble tank, with a pretty small profile. The user should expect around 48 km/h on off-road terrain and roughly -24 km/h reverse speed. It takes roughly 13 seconds for the tank to fully do a 360° rotation with neutral steering, however if the user gets some speed before turning, it will do the 360° rotation roughly 50% faster. It is powered by a Baudouin GF12SRY diesel engine, with the power of 420 hp for a top speed of roughly 75 km/h.
+The MARS 15 is a very mobile and nimble tank, with a pretty small profile. The user should expect around 48 km/h on off-road terrain and roughly -24 km/h reverse speed. It takes roughly 13 seconds for the tank to fully do a 360° rotation with neutral steering, however if the user gets some speed before turning, it will do the 360° rotation roughly 50% faster. It is powered by a Baudouin GF12SRY diesel engine, producing 400 hp for a top speed of roughly 75 km/h.
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''MARS 15''' is a French light tank prototype that was designed and built by Creusot-Loire Industrie with the support of Renk, SAM, Valeo, and Baudouin cooperations between the 1980s and 1992. The [[AMX-13 (Family)|AMX-13 light tanks]] were one of the best-selling tanks in the world in 35 nations between 1953 and 1985, after forty years of service and remarkable success in France and abroad due to their simplicity and versatility. The MARS 15 was originally shown at the Satory 90 Show and then again at Eurosatory in 1992, with an upgraded variant for the final time. Originally intended for export to replace the obsolete AMX-13 light tanks of former clients, it failed to meet expectations and was never mass-produced on a large scale. Despite having several advantages, such as modularity, the Mars 15 failed to gain international popularity, much like the [[AMX-40|AMX-40 main battle tank]]. As a result, the project was eventually cancelled.
+The '''MARS 15''' is a French light tank prototype that was designed and built by Creusot-Loire Industrie with the support of Renk, SAM, Valeo, and Baudouin cooperations between the 1980s and 1992. It was originally intended for export to replace the now-obsolete [[AMX-13 (Family)|AMX-13 light tanks]], one of the best-selling tank series in the world with 35 client nations between 1953 and 1985, and forty years of service and remarkable success in France and abroad due to their simplicity and versatility. The MARS 15 was originally shown at the Satory 90 exhibition and then again at Eurosatory in 1992, with an upgraded variant for the final time. However, the MARS 15 failed to meet expectations and was never mass-produced on a large scale, despite having several advantages, such as modularity, and failed to gain international popularity, much like the [[AMX-40|AMX-40 main battle tank]]. As a result, the project was eventually cancelled.
-Introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]], the MARS 15 is an excellent scouting vehicle. Given its high mobility and low profile, it is easy to flank and scout the opponent for your allies. Close-quarters engagements are not encouraged, as the inadequate armour does not provide sufficient protection against other vehicles. An effective way to play MARS 15 is to focus on flanking the adversary and engaging the enemy from flanking positions on the sides. If players find themselves in a dangerous situation, the MARS 15 carries four smoke grenades that can provide an effective means of evading danger and repositioning.
+Introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]], the MARS 15 is an excellent scouting vehicle. Given its high mobility and low profile, it is easy to flank and scout the opponent for your allies. Close-quarters engagements are not encouraged, as the inadequate armour does not provide sufficient protection against other vehicles. An effective way to play MARS 15 is to focus on flanking the adversary and engaging the enemy from flanking positions on the sides. If players find themselves in a dangerous situation, the MARS 15 carries four smoke grenades that can provide an effective means of evading danger and repositioning.
 == General info ==
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 * Good mobility
 * Access to a laser rangefinder
 * Access to night vision
 '''Cons:'''

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].
+The '''MARS 15''' is a French light tank prototype that was designed and built by Creusot-Loire Industrie with the support of Renk, SAM, Valeo, and Baudouin cooperations between the 1980s and 1992. The [[AMX-13 (Family)|AMX-13 light tanks]] were one of the best-selling tanks in the world in 35 nations between 1953 and 1985, after forty years of service and remarkable success in France and abroad due to their simplicity and versatility. The MARS 15 was originally shown at the Satory 90 Show and then again at Eurosatory in 1992, with an upgraded variant for the final time. Originally intended for export to replace the obsolete AMX-13 light tanks of former clients, it failed to meet expectations and was never mass-produced on a large scale. Despite having several advantages, such as modularity, the Mars 15 failed to gain international popularity, much like the [[AMX-40|AMX-40 main battle tank]]. As a result, the project was eventually cancelled.
 == General info ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:CN90 F4 (90 mm)/Ammunition|OCC 90 F2, OFUM 90 F1, OE 90 F1, OFL 90 F1}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 * Good mobility
 * Access to a laser rangefinder
 '''Cons:'''
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 * No gun stabilization
 * Very light protection
 * Because of the OFL 90 F1, rather weak penetration power and below average spalling, one-hit kills are unreliable

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 As mentioned above, holding more than 14 rounds might be a problem for some. But due to the overall low survivability of the tank itself, taking 19 rounds might be an optimal way to play. Taking more than 19 rounds will result in the rounds being placed on the racks on both sides of the tank, which might make the user very susceptible to side shots, but the rounds will also start storing inside of the bottom and the back of the turret (not counting the first stage ammo rack which is on the left side of the turret).
-While you might stop a HEAT-FS that has been flung your way, or you might shrug some 20 mm auto cannon rounds, aircraft will be the bane of your existence. Due to the thin roof, pretty much any aircraft can quickly wipe you out by just using its guns. Sadly, the only reliable protection is to try to find some cover, either indoors or hide behind a sufficiently high object. If none of these options are available, the only option left is to pray that your team has an AA or a friendly jet roaming around that just might save you.
+While you might stop a HEATFS round that has been flung your way, or you might shrug some 20 mm autocannon rounds, aircraft will be the bane of your existence. Due to the thin roof, pretty much any aircraft can quickly wipe you out by just using its guns. Sadly, the only reliable protection is to try to find some cover, either indoors or hide behind a sufficiently high object. If none of these options are available, the only option left is to pray that your team has an AA or a friendly jet roaming around that just might save you.
 '''Armour type:'''
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 {{main|A-A-F1N (7.62 mm)}}
-The A-A-F1N is largely ineffective at taking out any armored target and its only real use comes to play against vehicles with exposed crew members. Thanks to the large fire rate, one can dispatch such tank with relative ease. It can also be used to "ping" enemy targets for your teammates or to destroy environmental objects such as fences.
+The A-A-F1N is largely ineffective at taking out any armoured target and its only real use comes to play against vehicles with exposed crew members. Thanks to the large fire rate, one can dispatch such tank with relative ease. It can also be used to "ping" enemy targets for your teammates or to destroy environmental objects such as fences.
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-The MARS 15 is effective as a scout vehicle. Because of the good mobility and low profile, it is easy to flank the enemy and scout them for your team. Engaging in brawls is not recommended as the mediocre armor does not provide adequate protection against other vehicles that the MARS will face. Focusing on flanking the enemy and/or engaging the enemy from vantage points from the sides is an adequate way of playing the MARS. If for some reason the user finds themselves in a tough spot, the MARS has 4 smoke grenades that can provide a reliable way of escaping danger and repositioning.
+The MARS 15 is effective as a scout vehicle. Because of the good mobility and low profile, it is easy to flank the enemy and scout them for your team. Engaging in brawls is not recommended as the mediocre armour does not provide adequate protection against other vehicles that the MARS will face. Focusing on flanking the enemy and/or engaging the enemy from vantage points from the sides is an adequate way of playing the MARS. If for some reason the user finds themselves in a tough spot, the MARS has 4 smoke grenades that can provide a reliable way of escaping danger and repositioning.
-Although the user has access to an APFSDS round, using it is rather questionable and situational. The power of it is rather average at best, but on the flipside, it provides quite a boost to the round velocity. A good tactic is to take both HEAT-FS and APFSDS if the user plans on sniping but also flanking. The APFSDS should be used at longer ranges where the target might be moving too fast for the HEAT-FS to be reliable, or in case environmental objects such as bushes are in front of the user as hitting these with HEAT rounds will most likely detonate them, giving away the user's position.
+Although the user has access to an APFSDS round, using it is rather questionable and situational. The power of it is rather average at best, but on the flipside, it provides quite a boost to the round velocity. A good tactic is to take both HEATFS and APFSDS if the user plans on sniping but also flanking. The APFSDS should be used at longer ranges where the target might be moving too fast for the HEATFS to be reliable, or in case environmental objects such as bushes are in front of the user as hitting these with HEAT rounds will most likely detonate them, giving away the user's position.
-If the user prefers to snipe crew members or the enemy tank's ammo racks, the APFSDS is good enough to fulfill that role, but spare HEAT-FS rounds should always be carried in case the user needs some extra penetration power.
+If the user prefers to snipe crew members or the enemy tank's ammo racks, the APFSDS is good enough to fulfill that role, but spare HEATFS rounds should always be carried in case the user needs some extra penetration power.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=light_tank&vehicle=fr_mars_15 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=fr_mars_15 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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-| Hull || 11 mm (80°) ''Top Glacis'' <br> 15 mm (40°) ''Bottom Glacis'' || 5 mm (20°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm  ''Bottom'' || 10 mm (10°) || 8-11 mm (80-90°)
+| Hull || 11 mm (80°) ''Top Glacis'' <br> 15 mm (40°) ''Bottom Glacis'' || 5 mm (20°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm ''Bottom'' || 10 mm (10°) || 8-11 mm (80-90°)
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 | Turret || 10-15 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 10 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 8-12 mm (0-30°) || 8-10 mm || 10-12 mm
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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
+| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
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 ! ''Realistic''
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 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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+[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
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-| Coaxial || 2,000 (100) || 900 || 0°/+20° || N/A
+| Coaxial || 2,000 (100) || 900 || N/A || N/A
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 == Media ==
-<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' --><gallery mode="packed" heights="150">
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 File:Mars 15 WTWallpaper 01.jpg|
 File:MARS Devblog 4.jpg|
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [http://www.military-today.com/tanks/mars_15.htm <nowiki>[Military Today] MARS 15</nowiki>]
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