M8C (12.7 mm) - Revision history

U38088265 at 19:00, 31 October 2023

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U38088265: U38088265 moved page M80 (12.7 mm) to M8C (12.7 mm) over redirect: Renamed in 2.31

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U38088265 moved page M80 (12.7 mm) to M8C (12.7 mm) over redirect: Renamed in 2.31

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 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
-The '''M8C''' (erroneously referred to as '''M80''' in game) is an American 12.7 mm spotting rifle, fitted to the predominantly to [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]], and some recoilless rifles of other nations. In game the weapon is fitted to American and Italian recoilless rifles, while the Japanese [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]] uses the [[Type 60 (B) (12.7 mm)|Type 60 (12.7 mm) spotting rifle]]. Being only designed as a spotting rifle the weapon has low rate of fire, very low penetration, low velocity and a small magazine capacity.
+The '''M8C''' is an American 12.7 mm spotting rifle, predominantly fitted+ to the [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]], and some recoilless rifles of other nations. In game the weapon is fitted to American and Italian recoilless rifles, while the Japanese [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]] uses the [[Type 60 (B) (12.7 mm)|Type 60 spotting rifle]]. Being only designed as a spotting rifle, the weapon has low rate of fire, very low penetration, low velocity, and a small magazine capacity.
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 The M8C is an American 12.7 mm spotting rifle designed for use with the [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]]. The US Army's previous recoilless rifle, the M27 recoilless rifle, lacked a spotting rifle which significantly limited the range at which the weapon could be accurately used. While the M40 was being designed, Remington were tasked with producing a spotting rifle which would be fitted on top of the M40's barrel in order to allow it to be aimed accurately at range.
-The Resulting weapon was the Remington M8C. It chambered the 12.7x77 mm .50 BAT round (instead of the much more common 12.7×99 mm .50 BMG round). The weapon was a gas-operated semi-automatic rifle (as opposed to a machine gun), with ammo being fed in from a 10 or 20 round magazine mounted on the left hand side of the gun, and ejected to the right. The bullets it fired were designed to explode on impact and produce a puff of white smoke, in order to allow their impact point to be clearly seen.
+The resulting weapon was the Remington M8C. It chambered the 12.7x77 mm .50 BAT round (instead of the much more common 12.7×99 mm .50 BMG round). The weapon was a gas-operated semi-automatic rifle (as opposed to a machine gun), with ammo being fed in from a 10 or 20 round magazine mounted on the left hand side of the gun, and ejected to the right. The bullets it fired were designed to explode on impact and produce a puff of white smoke, in order to allow their impact point to be clearly seen.
 The M8C was fitted to the M40 106 mm recoilless rifle, as well as other recoilless rifles such as the British 120 mm WOMBAT.

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 == General info ==

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 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
-The '''M8C''' (erroneously referred to as '''M80''' in game) is an American 12.7mm spotting rifle, fitted to the predominantly to [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]], and some recoilless rifles of other nations. In game the weapon is fitted to American and Italian recoilless rifles, while the Japanese [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]] uses the [[Type 60 (B) (12.7 mm)|Type 60 (12.7 mm) spotting rifle]]. Being only designed as a spotting rifle the weapon has low rate of fire, very low penetration, low velocity and a small magazine capacity.
+The '''M8C''' (erroneously referred to as '''M80''' in game) is an American 12.7 mm spotting rifle, fitted to the predominantly to [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]], and some recoilless rifles of other nations. In game the weapon is fitted to American and Italian recoilless rifles, while the Japanese [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]] uses the [[Type 60 (B) (12.7 mm)|Type 60 (12.7 mm) spotting rifle]]. Being only designed as a spotting rifle the weapon has low rate of fire, very low penetration, low velocity and a small magazine capacity.
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 == General info ==
 <!-- ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' -->
-The M8C was designed specifically as a spotting gun for cannons and is most commonly seen on the M40. For the M48A2 Spotter-Tracer (S) bullets in a 12.7x77mm case to match the ballistics of the cannon round, a smaller case with less power was produced, resulting in a 22mm shorter round than the well known .50 BMG (12.7x99mm). A semi-automatic it was meant fire 1 round per pull for the gunner to easily see where the round flies and lands, adjust aim and let loose the 106mm round. All [[M40A1C (106 mm)|106 mm M40A1C]] guns mounted this rifle when produced, but it could easily be removed (the lower 2 on M50 tank is removed).
+The M8C was designed specifically as a spotting gun for cannons and is most commonly seen on the M40. For the M48A2 Spotter-Tracer (S) bullets in a 12.7x77 mm case to match the ballistics of the cannon round, a smaller case with less power was produced, resulting in a 22 mm shorter round than the well known .50 BMG (12.7x99 mm). A semi-automatic it was meant fire 1 round per pull for the gunner to easily see where the round flies and lands, adjust aim and let loose the 106 mm round. All [[M40A1C (106 mm)|106 mm M40A1C]] guns mounted this rifle when produced, but it could easily be removed (the lower 2 on M50 tank is removed).
 === Available ammunition ===
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
-Unlike most other tank-mounted machine guns, which are designed primary for anti-infantry, anti-aircraft, or general purpose use; the M8C is specifically designed as a "spotting rifle". The bullets follow the same trajectory as the rounds from the [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]] the weapon is affixed to. The rounds are designed to be visible during flight and upon impact, instead of penetrating armour, and so the the rounds have much worse ballistic performance than other .50 cal rounds. Even compared to another ranging weapon, the [[L21A1 (12.7 mm)]], the ballistic performance is extremely poor, with the M8C having a maximum penetration of 3 mm (compared to 7 mm) and a lower muzzle velocity of 532 m/s (compared to 793 m/s). The M8C does however get a larger magazine than the [[L21A1 (12.7 mm)|L21A1]], at 5 rounds.
+Unlike most other tank-mounted machine guns, which are designed primary for anti-infantry, anti-aircraft, or general purpose use; the M8C is specifically designed as a "spotting rifle". The bullets follow the same trajectory as the rounds from the [[M40A1C (106 mm)|M40 recoilless rifle]] the weapon is affixed to. The rounds are designed to be visible during flight and upon impact, instead of penetrating armour, and so the rounds have much worse ballistic performance than other .50 cal rounds. Even compared to another ranging weapon, the [[L21A1 (12.7 mm)]], the ballistic performance is extremely poor, with the M8C having a maximum penetration of 3 mm (compared to 7 mm) and a lower muzzle velocity of 532 m/s (compared to 793 m/s). The M8C does however get a larger magazine than the [[L21A1 (12.7 mm)|L21A1]], at 5 rounds.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 The Resulting weapon was the Remington M8C. It chambered the 12.7x77 mm .50 BAT round (instead of the much more common 12.7×99 mm .50 BMG round). The weapon was a gas-operated semi-automatic rifle (as opposed to a machine gun), with ammo being fed in from a 10 or 20 round magazine mounted on the left hand side of the gun, and ejected to the right. The bullets it fired were designed to explode on impact and produce a puff of white smoke, in order to allow their impact point to be clearly seen.
-The M8C was fitted to the M40 106 mm recoilless rifle, as well as other recoilless rifles such as the British 120mm WOMBAT.
+The M8C was fitted to the M40 106 mm recoilless rifle, as well as other recoilless rifles such as the British 120 mm WOMBAT.
 == Media ==
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 ;Images
-<gallery mode="packed-hover"  heights="200">
+<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
 File:Weapon M8C 12.7mm.jpg|<small>Two M8C spotting rifles on an M50</small>
 </gallery>

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 The M8C only has access to one ammo belt consisting entirely of AI (Adjustment incendiary) bullets. As these bullets are designed to be visible on impact, for use in ranging the main gun, rather than to penetrate armour they have extremely poor ballistic performance, with a maximum penetration of 7 mm.
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|AI}}
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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 === Available ammunition ===
 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
-The M8C only has access to one ammo belt consisting entirely of IAI bullets. As these bullets are designed to be visible on impact, for use in ranging the main gun, rather than to penetrate armour they have extremely poor ballistic performance, with a maximum penetration of 3 mm.
+The M8C only has access to one ammo belt consisting entirely of AI (Adjustment incendiary) bullets. As these bullets are designed to be visible on impact, for use in ranging the main gun, rather than to penetrate armour they have extremely poor ballistic performance, with a maximum penetration of 7 mm.
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
 |-
 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-| IAI || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
+| AI || 7 || 7 || 6 || 5 || 3 || 3
 |-
 |}
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="10" | Shell details
+! colspan="9" | Shell details
 |-
 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 |-
 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-| IAI || 525 || 0.05 || 0.02 || 0.3 || 0 || 47° || 56° || 65°
+| AI || 525 || 0.05 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 47° || 56° || 65°
 |-
 |}

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-[[File:M80.png|550px|thumb|right|The M80 (four in total) on top of one of the six M50's recoilless rifles]]
+[[File:M80.png|x280px|thumb|right|The M80 (four in total) on top of one of the six M50's recoilless rifles]]
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->

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-[[File:M80.png|550px|thumb|right|The M80 (four in total) on top of one of the six M50's recoilless rifles.]]
+[[File:M80.png|550px|thumb|right|The M80 (four in total) on top of one of the six M50's recoilless rifles]]
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 ;Images
 <gallery mode="packed-hover"  heights="200">
-File:Weapon M8C 12.7mm.jpg|<small>Two M8C spotting rifles on an M50.</small>
+File:Weapon M8C 12.7mm.jpg|<small>Two M8C spotting rifles on an M50</small>
 </gallery>
 == See also ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->