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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an unique Sherman variant due to its nature of a retrofitted tank from parts of different models of M4 Shermans; in this case, these were the six Sherman tanks with the cast hull of M4A1 (76) W (distinguished by the travel lock of the original 76 mm M1 gun) and its iconic D82081 (full-size mantle) turret but only armed with a less powerful 75 mm M3 cannon. These tanks were part of the post-Civil War order of supplement tanks for ROCA from Great Britain delivered late-1949 after the loss of most part of Mainland China; as ROCA later adopted M18 GMC as their main tank, these Shermans were soon retired in 1952.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a unique Sherman variant due to its nature as a retrofitted tank using parts of different models of M4 Shermans. In this case, these were the six Sherman tanks with the cast hull of the M4A1 (76) W (distinguished by the travel lock of the original 76 mm M1 gun) and its iconic D82081 (full-sized mantlet) turret, but only armed with a less powerful 75 mm M3 cannon. These tanks were part of the post-Civil War order of supplementary tanks for the ROCA from Great Britain, delivered in late 1949 after the loss of most of Mainland China. As the ROCA later adopted M18 GMC as their main tank, these Shermans were soon retired in 1952.
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other Shermans at the same BR, but the M4A1 hull presents large weak spots. This combined with its good gun depression means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other Shermans at the same BR, but the M4A1 hull presents large weakspots. This, combined with its good gun depression, means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an unique Sherman variant due to its nature of a retrofitted tank from parts of different models of M4 Shermans; in this case, these were the six Sherman tanks with the cast hull of M4A1 (76) W (distinguished by the travel lock of the original 76 mm M1 gun) and its iconic D82081 (full-size mantle) turret but only armed with a less powerful 75 mm M3 cannon. These tanks were part of the post-Civil War order of supplement tanks for ROCA from Great Britain delivered late-1949 after the loss of most part of Mainland China; as ROCA later adopted M18 GMC as their main tank, these Shermans were soon retired in 1952.
-A somewhat unique Sherman variant, the M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other Shermans at the same BR, but the M4A1 hull presents large weak spots. This combined with its good gun depression means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]]. The M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other Shermans at the same BR, but the M4A1 hull presents large weak spots. This combined with its good gun depression means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
 == General info ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:M3 (75 mm)/Ammunition|M72 shot, M48 shell, M61 shot, M89}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 * HMG can effectively damage light vehicles (R3 T20, VFW) or shoot down aircraft
 * Wet ammo stowage reduces chance of being ammo-racked
 '''Cons:'''

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 * HMG can effectively damage light vehicles (R3 T20, VFW) or shoot down aircraft
 * Wet ammo stowage reduces chance of being ammo-racked
 '''Cons:'''

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 [[Pz.IV (Family)|Pz.IV G, H and J]] - The historical nemesis of the Sherman, the later Panzer IVs are one of the Sherman's more serious threats at this rank. The long barrel 75 mm gun will easily penetrate the Sherman from the front. However their flat armour allows them to easily be penetrated in return. Under 500 m, the front and turret are easily penetrated, but after that, it is advised to aim for the turret.
-[[StuG III F]]/[[StuG III G|G]] - Another historical nemesis of the Sherman, and another big threat. The StuG III packs the same punch as the Panzer IV line with its long barrel 75 mm gun, whilst losing the turret. Lacking a turret means that it will have to traverse the whole vehicle to target an enemy, but it also means that it has a lower profile. The StuG's armour profile is also more complex than the Panzer IV, with less flat areas. Certain areas are sloped and very bouncy. Luckily, there are big weak spots, two flat plates at the front and thin front sides. The right side contains the driver gunner and commander, while the left contains the ammo and loader, shooting either of them will easily knock it out with a singe shot.
+[[StuG III F]]/[[StuG III G|G]] - Another historical nemesis of the Sherman, and another big threat. The StuG III packs the same punch as the Panzer IV line with its long barrel 75 mm gun, whilst losing the turret. Lacking a turret means that it will have to traverse the whole vehicle to target an enemy, but it also means that it has a lower profile. The StuG's armour profile is also more complex than the Panzer IV, with less flat areas. Certain areas are sloped and very bouncy. Luckily, there are big weak spots, two flat plates at the front and thin front sides. The right side contains the driver gunner and commander, while the left contains the ammo and loader, shooting either of them will easily knock it out with a single shot.
 [[R3 T20 FA-HS]] - This speedy wheeled vehicle can circle around you with ease and take out all your crew with its fast-firing autocannon. In a close encounter, never expose your side to it, and do not even angle your hull. Face your hull directly to the R3, as angling it will only expose your frontal weak spots. You can use your HMG to easily kill the R3 with its good penetration and rate of fire.

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 '''Armour type:'''
-* Cast homogenous armour
+* Cast homogeneous armour
-* Rolled homogenous armour (Hull sides, Belly)
+* Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull sides, Belly)
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-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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-! colspan="11" | Shell details
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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
-A somewhat unique Sherman variant, the M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other 4.0 Shermans, but the M4A1 hull presents large weak spots. This combined with it's good gun depression means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
+A somewhat unique Sherman variant, the M4A1 (75) W combines the hull and turret of the M4A1 (76) W with the earlier 75 mm gun, which means it has a more armoured turret than the other Shermans at the same BR, but the M4A1 hull presents large weak spots. This combined with its good gun depression means it is very effective when in a hull-down position.
 == General info ==
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 ===Against the M4A1 (75) W ===
-'''Light tank/SPAA''': Light vehicles with below-average penetration may struggle to fight an M4A1 frontally. Take advantage of weak spots: the hull side armour at the front wraps into the upper front plate, forming a visible and thin triangular section on each side right above the front sprocket wheel. It is only 38 mm thick like the side and is much thinner than the front plate, so as long as a round has ~55 mm penetration, it can penetrate them and knock out some crew. The top of the upper front plate has the thin hull roof wrap down, allowing for easy penetration. The spherical hull mg has thin armour, but is hard to hit, and it's shape can cause ricochets, but penetrating this area guarantees a crew kill. SPAAs, with their rapid firing autocannons, will make short work of the thin side armour by firing long bursts across the entire side if it is exposed. Other than these areas, the M4A1 is quite sturdy, with a strong front plate and turret.
+'''Light tank/SPAA''' - Light vehicles with below-average penetration may struggle to fight an M4A1 frontally. Take advantage of weak spots: the hull side armour at the front wraps into the upper front plate, forming a visible and thin triangular section on each side right above the front sprocket wheel. It is only 38 mm thick like the side and is much thinner than the front plate, so as long as a round has ~55 mm penetration, it can penetrate them and knock out some crew. The top of the upper front plate has the thin hull roof wrap down, allowing for easy penetration. The spherical hull MG has thin armour, but is hard to hit, and its shape can cause ricochets, but penetrating this area guarantees a crew kill. SPAAs, with their rapid-firing autocannons, will make short work of the thin side armour by firing long bursts across the entire side if it is exposed. Other than these areas, the M4A1 is quite sturdy, with a strong front plate and turret.
-'''Medium tanks/Heavy tanks''': For medium and heavy tanks, the above weak spots are even easier to exploit. Some might be wanting to shoot the turret, but American turrets are popular for their sturdiness. Although the stat card thickness of the turret front is 63 mm, the gun mantlet, covering most of the turret front, is actually 88 mm with slight angles. There are also thick framing around the gun barrel and the edge of the mantlet that can go up to 300 mm in thickness. Therefore for common medium tanks with average cannons, it is best to avoid the mantlet from the front. If you face an M4A1 that's hull-down, you can shoot the front turret roof with APHE, which despite its angling is still thin and can be easily penetrated.
+'''Medium tanks/Heavy tanks''' - For medium and heavy tanks, the above weak spots are even easier to exploit. Some might be wanting to shoot the turret, but American turrets are popular for their sturdiness. Although the thickness of the turret front is 63 mm, the gun mantlet, covering most of the turret front, is actually 88 mm with slight angles. There are also thick framing around the gun barrel and the edge of the mantlet that can go up to 300 mm in thickness. Therefore for common medium tanks with average cannons, it is best to avoid the mantlet from the front. If you face an M4A1 that's hull-down, you can shoot the front turret roof with APHE, which despite its angling is still thin and can be easily penetrated.
-'''Tank destroyers''': These vehicles with more powerful guns can generally easily penetrate the M4A1's hull. If you are to fire at the turret front, avoid the edges of the gun mantlet and the surroundings of the gun barrel, as the armour there is much thicker.
+'''Tank destroyers''' - These vehicles with more powerful guns can generally easily penetrate the M4A1's hull. If you are to fire at the turret front, avoid the edges of the gun mantlet and the surroundings of the gun barrel, as the armour there is much thicker.
 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
-[[M4A2]]/[[M4A4 (1st PTG)|A4]]:
+[[M4A2]]/[[M4A4 (1st PTG)|A4]] - These Sherman tanks are widely used by over 3 nations that spread across both the Allied and the Axis side, so no matter which nation you play they can be quite tough to destroy in the hands of a skilled tanker. Given the rather weak penetration of your short 75 mm gun, their hull can be almost impossible to penetrate when angled, hull down or 300 m away. For an M4A4, there are 2 bulges on the upper front plate, a penetration through there is a guaranteed kill most of the times. But in case the opponent covers them up or when it's an M4A2, aim for the middle parts of the gun mantlet or the turret armour unprotected by the mantlet, you can at least make them defenceless. Note that their guns are equally weak against you, so wiggle around to disrupt their aim while you reload, you have a good chance of bouncing some shells.
-These Sherman tanks are widely used by over 3 nations that spread across both the Allied and the Axis side, so no matter which nation you play they can be quite tough to destroy in the hands of a skilled tanker. Given the rather weak penetration of your short 75 mm gun, their hull can be almost impossible to penetrate when angled, hull down or 300 m away. For an M4A4, there are 2 bulges on the upper front plate, a penetration through there is a guaranteed kill most of the times. But in case the opponent covers them up or when it's an M4A2, aim for the middle parts of the gun mantlet or the turret armour unprotected by the mantlet, you can at least make them defenceless. Note that their guns are equally weak against you, so wiggle around to disrupt their aim while you reload, you have a good chance of bouncing some shells.
+[[KV-1 (ZiS-5)]] - While the [[KV-1 (L-11)|L-11]] is underpowered, the [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)|ZiS-5]] is potent enough to punch through the Sherman's front, and the Sherman is unable to penetrate the KV-1's thick armour especially with its add-on armour plates. If this heavy tank is encountered and it's angling the hull, you can aim at the gun breech as its flat armour can be somewhat reliably penetrated. If it is directly facing you, you can shoot at the driver's port or hull mg to easily take out the entire crew. Take advantage of your stabilizer to fire before the KV-1.
-[[KV-1 (ZiS-5)]]:
+[[Churchill I]], [[Churchill III]], [[Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany)|Pz.Kpfw. Churchill]] - The Churchills, with their complex hulls and sturdy turrets, can be quite hard to kill at range. Again, manoeuvre as close to them as possible, the ideal distance being no more than 200 m. If they are angling their hull but facing their turret at you, go for the turret as their big tracks can easily get in front of the frontal hull. . For the Mk I Churchills, aim at the flattest part of their rounded cheeks to ensure successful penetrations. For the Mk III and the German Churchill, shoot at the turret front or roof. The shell should go in easily and knock out most, if not all of the crew. If you are facing an unangled Churchill you can shoot the hull, as your shells can easily penetrate their flat front. The huge side hull is easily penetrated, but you should take care around the side doors and turret rear, as they can be quite thick.
-While the [[KV-1 (L-11)|L-11]] is underpowered, the [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)|ZiS-5]] is potent enough to punch through the Sherman's front, and the Sherman is unable to penetrate the KV-1's thick armour especially with its add-on armour plates. If this heavy tank is encountered and it's angling the hull, you can aim at the gun breech as its flat armour can be somewhat reliably penetrated. If it is directly facing you, you can shoot at the driver's port or hull mg to easily take out the entire crew. Take advantage of your stabilizer to fire before the KV-1.
+[[Pz.IV (Family)|Pz.IV G, H and J]] - The historical nemesis of the Sherman, the later Panzer IVs are one of the Sherman's more serious threats at this rank. The long barrel 75 mm gun will easily penetrate the Sherman from the front. However their flat armour allows them to easily be penetrated in return. Under 500 m, the front and turret are easily penetrated, but after that, it is advised to aim for the turret.
-[[Churchill I]], [[Churchill III]], [[Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany)|Pz.Kpfw. Churchill]]:
+[[StuG III F]]/[[StuG III G|G]] - Another historical nemesis of the Sherman, and another big threat. The StuG III packs the same punch as the Panzer IV line with its long barrel 75 mm gun, whilst losing the turret. Lacking a turret means that it will have to traverse the whole vehicle to target an enemy, but it also means that it has a lower profile. The StuG's armour profile is also more complex than the Panzer IV, with less flat areas. Certain areas are sloped and very bouncy. Luckily, there are big weak spots, two flat plates at the front and thin front sides. The right side contains the driver gunner and commander, while the left contains the ammo and loader, shooting either of them will easily knock it out with a singe shot.
-The Churchills, with their complex hulls and sturdy turrets, can be quite hard to kill at range. Again, manoeuvre as close to them as possible, the ideal distance being no more than 200 m. If they are angling their hull but facing their turret at you, go for the turret as their big tracks can easily get in front of the frontal hull. . For the Mk I Churchills, aim at the flattest part of their rounded cheeks to ensure successful penetrations. For the Mk III and the German Churchill, shoot at the turret front or roof. The shell should go in easily and knock out most, if not all of the crew. If you are facing an unangled Churchill you can shoot the hull, as your shells can easily penetrate their flat front. The huge side hull is easily penetrated, but you should take care around the side doors and turret rear, as they can be quite thick.
+[[R3 T20 FA-HS]] - This speedy wheeled vehicle can circle around you with ease and take out all your crew with its fast-firing autocannon. In a close encounter, never expose your side to it, and do not even angle your hull. Face your hull directly to the R3, as angling it will only expose your frontal weak spots. You can use your HMG to easily kill the R3 with its good penetration and rate of fire.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Quick turret traverse
 * Fast reload
-* Effective in rough terrain and hull-down positions due to its 10° gun depression and 90+mm gun mantlet
+* Effective in rough terrain and hull-down positions due to its 10° gun depression and 90+ mm gun mantlet
 * HMG can effectively damage light vehicles (R3 T20, VFW) or shoot down aircraft
 * Wet ammo stowage reduces chance of being ammo-racked
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 * Gun has somewhat slow velocity and a curved trajectory. Makes it harder to aim at far targets
 * High profile compared to other medium tanks
-* Armour can't resist tanks like [[Pz.IV H]] or 76mm Sherman
+* Armour can't resist tanks like [[Pz.IV H]] or 76 mm Sherman
 * The cast hull creates frontal weak spots with very little effective thickness, ie. the triangles between upper front plate and the side, and the curved hull hatches