M43 "G.C.Leoncello" - Revision history

U17577377: Undo revision 161913 by U79619148 (talk)

2023-05-06T14:37:49Z

Undo revision 161913 by U79619148 (talk)

U79619148: /* Description */

2023-05-06T14:25:29Z

‎Description

U130286958: just some stuff from my experiences with the tech tree one, and corrected the part where it said that the Crusader can penetrate at short ranges.

2023-04-20T08:53:38Z

just some stuff from my experiences with the tech tree one, and corrected the part where it said that the Crusader can penetrate at short ranges.

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-01-24T20:26:49Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U44629479: /* Description */ Added link to event

2022-11-04T12:08:58Z

‎Description: Added link to event

U51386188: updated the page

2022-10-18T00:03:25Z

updated the page

U44629479: Edits

2021-12-11T22:06:16Z

Edits

U105837429: /* Description */ store info

2021-10-19T13:08:25Z

‎Description: store info

U38088265: /* Ammunition */

2021-08-12T16:17:58Z

‎Ammunition

U38088265: Updated format

2020-12-28T15:13:59Z

Updated format

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was imbatu kam
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was made available briefly for purchase with Golden Eagles {{ge}} during the [[wt:en/news/7955-special-italian-national-unity-and-armed-forces-day-en|2022 "Italian National Unity and Armed Forces Day"]] mini-event.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was made available briefly for purchase with Golden Eagles {{ge}} during the [[wt:en/news/7955-special-italian-national-unity-and-armed-forces-day-en|2022 "Italian National Unity and Armed Forces Day"]] mini-event.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was imbatu kam
 == General info ==

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 * Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the Marder III, the Marder III H, the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Chi-Ha LG or the Na-To,
 * Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the Pz.III N, the StuH 42 G, the M4A3 (105) (France) or the Sav m/43 (1946),
-* Tanks with APDS shells like the Lago I,
+* Tanks with APDS shells like the Swedish 37mm gun tanks,
 * Frontline tanks with sloped armour like the M4A1, the T-50, the T-126 or the T-34 (1940) or the M4A1 (France),
-* Fast and agile light tanks such as the M24, the Sd.Kfz. 234/2 or the Crusader III that can easily flank the Semovente undetected are dangerous threats. Their speed and small size make them difficult to target for the Semovente's howitzer and they can disable you easily at close range.
+* Fast and agile light tanks such as the M24, the Sd.Kfz. 234/2 or the Crusader III that can easily flank the Semovente undetected are dangerous threats. Their speed and small size make them difficult to target for the Semovente's howitzer and they can disable you easily at close range, and the Crusader with Shot Mk.9 can easily penetrate the M43 at longer ranges.
 ;How to defeat a {{PAGENAME}}
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 *High gun depression, can be used to crest over hills while only exposing the more heavily armoured superstructure
 *Decent mobility and good hull traverse
 '''Cons:'''
 * The mantlet armour can be penetrated by the majority of the guns at its rank
 * No turret

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 Both shells have slow muzzle velocity and will have a curved trajectory. Use this to hit enemies hiding behind a ridge.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)/Ammunition|Granata Perforante da 105, Effetto Pronto mod.43}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]]. It was made available briefly for purchase with Golden Eagles {{ge}} during the [[wt:en/news/7955-special-italian-national-unity-and-armed-forces-day-en|2022 "Italian National Unity and Armed Forces Day"]] mini-event.
 == General info ==

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 ;Combat tactics
-The {{PAGENAME}} is best when used as a tank destroyer thanks to its good frontal armour and the good penetration of its rounds, provided you stay at a distance guaranteeing your survivability (800-1,000 m). With a maximum penetration of 72 mm at 1,000 m for the APC round and 120 mm for the HEAT shell, the vehicle will have no problem penetrating the armour of most enemy vehicles at the BR. However, the low-velocity 105 mm howitzer makes it difficult to target and hit reliably enemies at long range and the long reload time prevents you from coming quickly with another shot.
+The {{PAGENAME}} is best when used as a tank destroyer thanks to its good frontal armour and the good penetration of its rounds, provided you stay at a distance guaranteeing your survivability (800-1,000 m). Although the Leoncello lacks any kind of turret, there are benefits and also some disavantages. At a distance, the Semovente's limited traverse is less a handicap and makes it harder for the weak spots of the vehicle to be hit. The vehicle's primary advantages include its low profile and powerful gun which can easily defeat most enemies it will encounter at range while remaining a relatively obscured target With a maximum penetration of 72 mm at 1,000 m for the APC round and 120 mm for the HEAT shell, the vehicle will have no problem penetrating the armour of most enemy vehicles at the BR. However, the low-velocity 105 mm howitzer makes it difficult to target and hit reliably enemies at long range and the long reload time prevents you from coming quickly with another shot. If you play too close to the frontline, most tanks will be capable of disabling you. Your weak sides will be exposed if you are taken in a pincer move and your long reload time will give enemies the opportunity to get to a better shooting spot or to close the gap between their location and yours. So it is overall vital that you do not get flanked and you always have friendly tanks to aid you whenever you are in trouble.
-If you play too close to the frontline, most tanks will be capable of disabling you. Your weak sides will be exposed if you are taken in a pincer move and your long reload time will give enemies the opportunity to get to a better shooting spot or to close the gap between their location and yours.
+;Notable enemies include;
 * Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the Marder III, the Marder III H, the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Chi-Ha LG or the Na-To,
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 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
 * Powerful 105 mm gun that can fire HEAT rounds
-* Low profile can make it difficult to spot in RB/SB
-* Reasonably fast
+*Small frontal profile makes the tank easy to conceal and difficult to hit
-* Good gun depression
+*High gun depression, can be used to crest over hills while only exposing the more heavily armoured superstructure
 '''Cons:'''
 * The mantlet armour can be penetrated by the majority of the guns at its rank
 * No turret
 == History ==
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[75/34 M43]]
 * [[105/25 M43]]
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[StuH 42 G]]
 * [[Sav m/43 (1946)]]

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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_105_leoncello Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_semovente_m43_105_leoncello Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[75/34 M43]]
 * [[105/25 M43]]
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[StuH 42 G]]
 * [[Sav m/43 (1946)]]
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 <!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
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 * [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25|[Wikipedia] Semovente da 105/25]]
 {{Italy tank destroyers}}
 {{Italy premium ground vehicles}}

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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 12.3 || 17.1 ||20.7||22.9|| 24.4 || rowspan="2" | 13.00 || rowspan="2" |11.50|| rowspan="2" |10.6|| rowspan="2" | 10.00
+| rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 12.3 || 17.1 || 20.7 || 22.9 || 24.4 || rowspan="2" | 13.00 || rowspan="2" | 11.50 || rowspan="2" | 10.60 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| 8.3 || 9.8 ||11.9||13.2|| 14.0
+| 8.3 || 9.8 || 11.9 || 13.2 || 14.0
 |-
 |}
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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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 | Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 500 || 15.65 || 1.2 || 19 || 275 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-| Effetto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 510 || 14.0 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 2,300 || 62° || 69° || 73°
+| Effetto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 510 || 14 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 2,300 || 62° || 69° || 73°
 |-
 |}
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 == Usage in battles ==
-<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 ;Combat tactics

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 {{About
 | about = Italian tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = regular version
 | link = 105/25 M43
 }}
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], and was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6263-shop-war-thunder-summer-sale-en|2019 Summer sales]].
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 * If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the {{PAGENAME}} buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
 * When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.
 === Pros and cons ===