M14/41 (47/40) - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 158475 by U7877218 (talk)

2023-03-12T13:23:35Z

Undo revision 158475 by U7877218 (talk)

U7877218: /* History */ Removed implication that the vehicle did not exist. And tried to add as much actual information about it

2023-03-12T12:55:02Z

‎History: Removed implication that the vehicle did not exist. And tried to add as much actual information about it

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-01-24T22:02:56Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U44629479: Edits

2022-08-03T12:25:43Z

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U54548726: /* Pros and cons */

2022-07-31T18:00:28Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265: /* Mobility */

2022-02-01T21:59:45Z

‎Mobility

U44629479: Added About template

2022-01-08T00:13:33Z

Added About template

U44629479: Edits

2022-01-08T00:11:10Z

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U17577377 at 16:39, 22 December 2021

2021-12-22T16:39:05Z

U44629479: Edits

2021-12-11T21:55:16Z

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 ;Combat tactics
 The {{PAGENAME}} is basically a M14/41 tank boasting a better gun and thus sitting at a higher battle rating. With the BR increase, the competition gets also tougher. That's why the {{PAGENAME}} features henceforth average armour for its rank, especially the sides and around the turret. Frontally, the massive 30 mm front plate is the biggest weak spot: flat, hard to miss and a penetrating shot through this plate will kill the driver and the gunner that sits behind him. To avoid this, you can angle your tank about 30 degrees to the left to hide your flat plate and present instead the MG bulge that could absorb some shots. This however is not a durable strategy, any expert tanker won't fall for that trick.
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 ;How to defeat a {{PAGENAME}}
 Rule of thumb is to get as close as possible as you can to maximise your penetration power as its armour is flat.
 * In a frontal encounter, shoot right in the middle of the front plate if the {{PAGENAME}} did not angle its hull. This will knock out the gunner and the driver.
 * If it is hull down, aim at the turret cheeks.
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 [[File:M41 Carro Comando(A M41 Self Propelled Command Tank).jpg|thumb|343x343px|M41 Carro Comando (An M41 Self-Propelled Command Tank)]]
-Little is known about this vehicle. The hull mg was replaced with a 13.2 mm Breda machine gun, as similarly done on M14/41 command tanks. These command tanks were however turretless. The cannon de 47/32 was also replaced by the longer cannon de 47/40. It is possible this was a post war restoration effort, fitting the turret of an M15/42 onto an M41/41 command tank, for display purposes.
+Historically, this is rather a different vehicle than in-game. The only variant of the M14/41 was a command vehicle, which had its turret removed and only had a Breda mod.38 machine gun mounted as the anti-air weapon on the turret ring, while the 13.2 mm Breda machine gun was hull-mounted. These command vehicles were then added to the SPG platoons. They used RF1 CA and RF3 M2 radios to communicate with Tank Command and other units.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_m14_41_47_40 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[M14/41]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Chi-He]] / [[Chi-He (5th Regiment)]]

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 ;Combat tactics
 The {{PAGENAME}} is basically a M14/41 tank boasting a better gun and thus sitting at a higher battle rating. With the BR increase, the competition gets also tougher. That's why the {{PAGENAME}} features henceforth average armour for its rank, especially the sides and around the turret. Frontally, the massive 30 mm front plate is the biggest weak spot: flat, hard to miss and a penetrating shot through this plate will kill the driver and the gunner that sits behind him. To avoid this, you can angle your tank about 30 degrees to the left to hide your flat plate and present instead the MG bulge that could absorb some shots. This however is not a durable strategy, any expert tanker won't fall for that trick.
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 ;How to defeat a {{PAGENAME}}
 Rule of thumb is to get as close as possible as you can to maximise your penetration power as its armour is flat.
 * In a frontal encounter, shoot right in the middle of the front plate if the {{PAGENAME}} did not angle its hull. This will knock out the gunner and the driver.
 * If it is hull down, aim at the turret cheeks.
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 [[File:M41 Carro Comando(A M41 Self Propelled Command Tank).jpg|thumb|343x343px|M41 Carro Comando (An M41 Self-Propelled Command Tank)]]
-Historically, this is rather a different vehicle than in-game. The only variant of the M14/41 was a command vehicle, which had its turret removed and only had a Breda mod.38 machine gun mounted as the anti-air weapon on the turret ring, while the 13.2 mm Breda machine gun was hull-mounted. These command vehicles were then added to the SPG platoons. They used RF1 CA and RF3 M2 radios to communicate with Tank Command and other units.
+Little is known about this vehicle. The hull mg was replaced with a 13.2 mm Breda machine gun, as similarly done on M14/41 command tanks. These command tanks were however turretless. The cannon de 47/32 was also replaced by the longer cannon de 47/40. It is possible this was a post war restoration effort, fitting the turret of an M15/42 onto an M41/41 command tank, for display purposes.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_m14_41_47_40 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[M14/41]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Chi-He]] / [[Chi-He (5th Regiment)]]

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:47/40 mod.38 (47 mm)/Ammunition|Granata mod.35, Granata Perforante mod.39}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 |-
 |}
-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * As they are modeled by sets of 2 or 3, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Thick mantlet
 * Good gun depression
 * Main gun is upgunned with the 47 mm 47/40 mod.38 cannon found on the [[M15/42]]
 '''Cons:'''
-* 13.2 mm heavy machine gun becomes inoperable the moment co-driver leaves his position
+* If not angled, other tanks will be able to penetrate the armour with ease
-* Decent armour, but if not angled, other tanks will be able to knock it out with ease
+* The large flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weak spot
-* Narrow tracks will slow the tank down on loose terrain
+* The narrow tracks will slow the tank down on loose terrain
-* Giant flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weakspot
+* 13.2 mm heavy machine gun becomes inoperable the moment the machine gunner is knocked out
 == History ==

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 * Plays like the [[M14/41]], so the player should be familiar with the low tier Italian tank play style
 * 13.2 mm heavy machine gun is decent, but won't break any records
-* Average mobility and armour, just like [[M14/41]].
+* Thick mantlet
-* Good silver lion grinder.
+* Good gun depression
 * Main gun is upgunned with the 47 mm 47/40 mod.38 cannon found on the [[M15/42]]
 '''Cons:'''
-* 13.2 mm heavy machine gun becomes inoperable the moment co-driver leaves his position.
+* 13.2 mm heavy machine gun becomes inoperable the moment co-driver leaves his position
-* Decent armour, but if not angled, other tanks will be able to knock it out with ease.
+* Decent armour, but if not angled, other tanks will be able to knock it out with ease
-* Narrow tracks will slow the tank down on loose terrain,
+* Narrow tracks will slow the tank down on loose terrain
-* Same BR as the [[M15/42]], while having the inferior engine and armor of the [[M14/41]]
+* Giant flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weakspot
 == History ==

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=194|rbMinHp=111}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=248|rbMinHp=142}}
 The mobility of this tank (and also the [[M14/41]]) is not great, but not terrible, either. The player won't be the first one at the capture point, but won't be the last either. There is no neutral steering, so the tank will take a moment to turn around.
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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)|8 mm Breda Mod. 38]]
+! colspan="5" | [[Breda Mod.31 (13.2 mm)|13.2 mm Breda Mod.31]]
 |-
 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Coaxial || 2,424 (24) || 600 || N/A || N/A
+| Hull || 300 (30) || 450 || -8°/+20° || ±10°
 |-
 |}
-The small calibre of the Breda Mod. 38 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.
-The pintle-mounted machine gun cannot traverse independently of the turret horizontally and is limited by the rather slow rotation speed of the turret. Furthermore, its limited elevation and traverse does not allow to target low-flying aircraft. The clip capacity of the machine gun is poor, as it relies on a magazine of 24 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations.
+The hull-mounted 13.2 mm Breda Mod.31 heavy machine gun can deal a good amount of damage to open-top and lightly armoured vehicles by picking off enemy crew members one by one. Since it is hull-mounted, its traverse and firing angles are limited and it can attack only foes coming at you frontally. The clip capacity of the Breda Mod.31 is poor, as it relies on a magazine of 30 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations. It will also become unusable the moment the tank loses the machine gunner/radio operator.
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[Breda Mod.31 (13.2 mm)|13.2 mm Breda Mod.31]]
+! colspan="5" | [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)|8 mm Breda Mod. 38]]
 |-
 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Hull || 300 (30) || 450 || -8°/+20° || ±10°
+| Coaxial || 2,424 (24) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 |-
 |}
+The small calibre of the Breda Mod. 38 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.
-The hull-mounted 13.2 mm Breda Mod.31 heavy machine gun can deal a good amount of damage to open-top and lightly armoured vehicles by picking off enemy crew members one by one. Since it is hull-mounted, its traverse and firing angles are limited and it can attack only foes coming at you frontally. The clip capacity of the Breda Mod.31 is poor, as it relies on a magazine of 30 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations. It will also become unusable the moment the tank loses the machine gunner/radio operator.
+The pintle-mounted machine gun cannot traverse independently of the turret horizontally and is limited by the rather slow rotation speed of the turret. Furthermore, its limited elevation and traverse does not allow to target low-flying aircraft. The clip capacity of the machine gun is poor, as it relies on a magazine of 24 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 * If it is hull down, aim at the turret cheeks.
 * If its hull is angled, aim at the flat corners of the hull.
 * If you manage to flank the {{PAGENAME}}, aim for the hull spot right under the center of the turret or the turret itself.
 * From the rear, target the turret first and then the crew compartment right under the turret (avoid shooting in the engine compartment: it will absorb shots with little damage to the crew).
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 * 13.2 mm heavy machine gun becomes inoperable the moment co-driver leaves his position.
 * Decent armour, but if not angled, other tanks will be able to knock it out with ease.
 * Narrow tracks will slow the tank down on loose terrain,
 * Same BR as the [[M15/42]], while having the inferior engine and armor of the [[M14/41]]
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 == See also ==
-<!--''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''-->
+* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
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 == External links ==
-<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''other literature.''-->
+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/italy/Carro_Armato_Medio_M14-41.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Carro Armato M14/41]

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