M.B.162 - Revision history

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 == Description ==
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-Based upon the civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service, the M.B.162 was intended to be a heavy bomber, designed by the '''Société des Avions Marcel Bloch''', later known as Dassault Aviation after the end of WWII. The Bloch M.B. 162, although based in a civilian airliner, shares very little with its unarmed counterpart, the most important changes to the design were the different wing configuration and, since it was meant for military usage, the main cargo bay was remodelled to fit bombs and other payloads. The aircraft was never used, since it was captured by Germany before it could enter service.
+Based upon the civilian airliner Bloch M.B.160 already in service, the ''M.B.162'' was intended to be a heavy bomber, designed by the Société des Avions Marcel Bloch, later known as Dassault Aviation after the end of WWII. The Bloch M.B.162, although based on a civilian airliner, shared very little with its unarmed counterpart, the most important changes to the design were the different wing configuration and, since it was meant for military usage, the main cargo bay was remodelled to fit bombs and other payloads. The aircraft was never used, since it was captured by Germany before it could enter service.
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very capable heavy bomber, considering the other indigenously designed bombers in the French tech tree. It works very similarly to the B-17, being relatively fast at high altitudes and carrying a large payload, enough to destroy a base in air battles or several ground targets, it can also be used in naval battles, but for this tasks, more agile torpedo and dive bombers work better. Its biggest issue however is the mediocre defensive armament, the 20mm cannons only cover a small area, while the aircraft is also vulnerable to attacks from the entire frontal area, that lacks any sort of armament.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very capable heavy bomber, considering the other indigenously designed bombers in the French tech tree. It works very similarly to the B-17, being relatively fast at high altitudes and carrying a large payload, enough to destroy a base in air battles or several ground targets, it can also be used in naval battles, but for this tasks, more agile torpedo and dive bombers work better. Its biggest issue however is the mediocre defensive armament, the 20 mm cannons only cover a small area, while the aircraft is also vulnerable to attacks from the entire frontal area, that lacks any sort of armament.
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
+Based upon the civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service, the M.B.162 was intended to be a heavy bomber, designed by the '''Société des Avions Marcel Bloch''', later known as Dassault Aviation after the end of WWII. The Bloch M.B. 162, although based in a civilian airliner, shares very little with its unarmed counterpart, the most important changes to the design were the different wing configuration and, since it was meant for military usage, the main cargo bay was remodelled to fit bombs and other payloads. The aircraft was never used, since it was captured by Germany before it could enter service.
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 === References ===
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 * Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ L'avion MB 161, de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d'éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
 * Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu'à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.

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-* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ L’avion MB 161, de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
+* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ L'avion MB 161, de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d'éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
-* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
+* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu'à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
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 * Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
-{{AirManufacturer Bloch}}
+{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
 {{France bombers}}

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-The Bloch M.B.162 is the best indigenously-designed bomber France has at its disposal, behaving similarly to the American [[B-17E|B-17]]. It is deceptively quick for a strategic bomber, and has an excellent climb rate that allows it to get to its safe altitude quickly. However, its excellent performance does not mean that it is lacking in bomb load or defensive armaments as one might expect. Although having a lower total capacity than the earlier [[N.C.223.3]], it has a higher bomb load than any other indigenous French bomber and a defensive armament that matches the previously mentioned 223. All-in-all, the 162 can be seen as a sort of "Best of Both Worlds" of the French bomber tree, combining the excellent speed, climb rate and manoeuvrability of the lighter twin engined bombers with the bomb load and defensive armament of the heavy bombers.
+The Bloch M.B.162 is the best indigenously-designed bomber France has at its disposal, behaving similarly to the American [[B-17 (Family)|B-17]]. It is deceptively quick for a strategic bomber, and has an excellent climb rate that allows it to get to its safe altitude quickly. However, its excellent performance does not mean that it is lacking in bomb load or defensive armaments as one might expect. Although having a lower total capacity than the earlier [[N.C.223.3]], it has a higher bomb load than any other indigenous French bomber and a defensive armament that matches the previously mentioned 223. All-in-all, the 162 can be seen as a sort of "Best of Both Worlds" of the French bomber tree, combining the excellent speed, climb rate and manoeuvrability of the lighter twin engined bombers with the bomb load and defensive armament of the heavy bombers.
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 The M.B.162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 6-7 km in altitude to protect yourself from German and Italian fighters that will climb to intercept you. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base. It is worthy to note that the M.B.162 can be significantly more aggressive in Arcade, where its already excellent performance is boosted to further levels.
-However, being a bomber, fighters will go out of their way to take you down (sometimes even at the expense of their own aircraft). Although the Hispanos are relatively inaccurate when fired in long bursts, they can be very devastating when fired in .5 second bursts at an aircraft's cockpit. But it is also to note that if you can hit an enemy with your turrets, they can hit you with their guns as well, which can be a large problem when fighting the multi-cannon armed Fw 190's, Bf 109's, C.202EC/C.205 and G.55 that all mount the universally feared [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151]] that has access to the dreaded minengeschoß round.
+However, being a bomber, fighters will go out of their way to take you down (sometimes even at the expense of their own aircraft). Although the Hispanos are relatively inaccurate when fired in long bursts, they can be very devastating when fired in .5 second bursts at an aircraft's cockpit. But it is also to note that if you can hit an enemy with your turrets, they can hit you with their guns as well, which can be a large problem when fighting the multi-cannon armed Fw 190, Bf 109, C.202EC/C.205 and G.55 fighters that all mount the universally feared [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151]] that has access to the dreaded Minengeschoß round.
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-=== Camouflages: ===
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-* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/754098/en/ French camouflage of the M.B. 162 by Vaxioss] [Semi-Historical]
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-* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/698043/en/ German Camouflage of the captured M.B.162 by MrSpacemau5] [Semi-Historical]
+{{Youtube-gallery|G6enBS8bPrU|'''The Shooting Range #267''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:02 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/385698-bloch-mb-162-b5/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
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 <references>
 <ref name="dassault01">Dassault-aviation website (n.d.)</ref>
 </references>
-=== Biblography ===
+;Biblography
 * Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ L’avion MB 161, de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
-* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# L’avion MB 161, de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
+* Dassault-aviation website [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/ La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.], Dassault-aviation website, On-line.
 {{AirManufacturer Bloch}}
 {{France bombers}}

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 * HS.404 cannons have low ammunition count
 * No turrets protecting the front, perpendicular sides, or directly vertical
-* Only 2 payload options
+* Only 2 payload options, and both can only destroy 1 base
 == History ==

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 * [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# Dassault Aviation official page] concerning the aircraft
 * [[Wikipedia:Bloch_MB.162|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Bloch MB.162]]
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