M-51 (W) - Revision history

U69095245: I eliminated the last lines of the history of this tank since it mentions that it was the last Sherman and the most advanced, which is false since during the 80s Chile modified the M-50 to arm them with 60 mm IMI HVMS cannons capable of firing APFSDST

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I eliminated the last lines of the history of this tank since it mentions that it was the last Sherman and the most advanced, which is false since during the 80s Chile modified the M-50 to arm them with 60 mm IMI HVMS cannons capable of firing APFSDST

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	This new model was dubbed the Sherman M-51, of which 180 were constructed in total. They first saw action during the Six-Day War of 1967, where they often outmatched Syrian and Egyptian T-55s. In combat in the West Bank during that war, the M-51 exceeded expectations even further by thoroughly defeating Jordanian [[M48A1\|M48 Pattons]] - very similar to the model that was in the process of replacing the M-51 in IDF service at the time. Despite becoming effectively obsolete by the 1970s, the M-51s were called back into action in 1973 during the desperate situation of the Yom Kippur War, and reportedly managed to hold their own even against late-model [[T-62]] tanks.		This new model was dubbed the Sherman M-51, of which 180 were constructed in total. They first saw action during the Six-Day War of 1967, where they often outmatched Syrian and Egyptian T-55s. In combat in the West Bank during that war, the M-51 exceeded expectations even further by thoroughly defeating Jordanian [[M48A1\|M48 Pattons]] - very similar to the model that was in the process of replacing the M-51 in IDF service at the time. Despite becoming effectively obsolete by the 1970s, the M-51s were called back into action in 1973 during the desperate situation of the Yom Kippur War, and reportedly managed to hold their own even against late-model [[T-62]] tanks.
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−	~~All in all, the M-51 is considered to be the last and most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced.~~

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 == Description ==
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-The M-51 (W) had the same role as the normal [[M-51]] and the only difference was the hull: instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the M4A3 and M4A4 chassis. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105 mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed based on the M-50, it was Israel's primary tank against Soviet-made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither the Centurions nor Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs, and while the M-51 was unreliable, slow, and had little to no protection, its armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IDF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and had decent results during the Six Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
+The '''M-51 (W)''' was designed similarly to the [[M-51]]; the only difference was the hull. Instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the chassis of the M4A3 and M4A4. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105 mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed based on the M-50, it was Israel's primary tank against Soviet-made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither Centurions nor Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs. While the M-51 was unreliable, slow, and had little to no protection, its armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IDF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and they achieved decent results during the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has two differences compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree. The first is that it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. The second is that the pintle-mounted machine gun has been upgraded from a 7.62 mm LMG to a 12.7 mm HMG, allowing it to more easily deal with lightly armoured vehicles and break down obstructions. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended to stay back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
+Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the M-51 (W) has two differences compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree. The first is that it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a significant difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front. The second is that the pintle-mounted machine gun has been upgraded from a 7.62 mm LMG to a 12.7 mm HMG, allowing it to more easily deal with lightly armoured vehicles and break down obstructions. Its HEAT shell is capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR. However, it has very poor mobility, particularly off-road and in reverse, its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely. It also does not have access to a stabilizer like the original Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended to stay back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The M-51 (W) had the same role as the normal [[M-51]] and the only difference was the hull: instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the M4A3 and M4A4 chassis. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105 mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed from the basis of the M-50, it was Israel's primary tank against Soviet-made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither the Centurions or Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs, and while the M-51 was unreliable, slow, and had little to no protection, its armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IDF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and had decent results during the Six Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
+The M-51 (W) had the same role as the normal [[M-51]] and the only difference was the hull: instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the M4A3 and M4A4 chassis. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105 mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed based on the M-50, it was Israel's primary tank against Soviet-made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither the Centurions nor Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs, and while the M-51 was unreliable, slow, and had little to no protection, its armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IDF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and had decent results during the Six Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has two differences compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree. The first is that it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. The second is that the pintle mounted machine-gun has been upgraded from a 7.62mm to a 12.7mm HMG, allowing it to more easily deal with lightly armoured vehicles and break down obstructions. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended staying back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has two differences compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree. The first is that it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. The second is that the pintle-mounted machine gun has been upgraded from a 7.62 mm LMG to a 12.7 mm HMG, allowing it to more easily deal with lightly armoured vehicles and break down obstructions. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended to stay back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
 == General info ==

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 The M-51 (W) had the same role as the normal [[M-51]] and the only difference was the hull: instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the M4A3 and M4A4 chassis. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105 mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed from the basis of the M-50, it was Israel's primary tank against Soviet-made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither the Centurions or Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs, and while the M-51 was unreliable, slow, and had little to no protection, its armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IDF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and had decent results during the Six Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has just one difference compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree, it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended staying back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has two differences compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree. The first is that it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. The second is that the pintle mounted machine-gun has been upgraded from a 7.62mm to a 12.7mm HMG, allowing it to more easily deal with lightly armoured vehicles and break down obstructions. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended staying back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The M-51 (W) had the same role as the normal M-51 and the only difference was the hull, instead of the M4A1 hull, it was built using the M4A3 and M4A4 chassis. Considered to be the most advanced version of the Sherman ever produced, the M-51 featured a 105mm gun, an improved engine, a new turret, and access to a powerful HEAT shell. Developed from the basis of the M-50 it was Israel primary tank against soviet made T-55s and T-62s during the Yom Kippur War. In this conflict, neither the Centurions or Patton tanks were capable of consistently penetrating the armour of the new Soviet designs, and while the M-51 was unreliable, slow and had little to no protection, it's armament was the most capable of all tanks in service with the IAF. Despite being obsolete, 180 were built, and had decent results during the Six Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War, even against the most modern Soviet designs.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has just one difference compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree, it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells of the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. It's HEAT shell has 400mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), it's armour is non existent, and if it's penetrated surviving it's unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Sherman's. Since it relies on it's firepower, its recommended staying back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has just one difference compared to the regular M-51 found in the tech tree, it uses the M4A3 chassis instead of the M4A1. While the difference in armour is not enough to make a difference, the shape of the armour makes it possible for the M-51 (W) to bounce some shells off the front if it's lucky and the enemy tank makes a bad shot. Its HEAT shell has 400 mm of penetration at max, and it's capable of dealing with any enemy at its BR, even against the Maus. However it has very poor mobility (off-road and reverse speed), its armour is non-existent, and if it's penetrated, surviving is unlikely, and also does not have access to a stabilizer like previous Shermans. Since it relies on its firepower, it's recommended staying back in comfortable positions behind the protection of your team, and if you are going to be at the frontline, stay close to your teammates.
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-{{Youtube-gallery|jyKHrTMSd1o|'''Should You Buy The M-51? - Vehicle Review''' - ''Sako Sniper''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|BdZ8irRyr5o|'''Premium Vehicles: M-51 W''' - ''War Thunder Wiki''|jyKHrTMSd1o|'''Should You Buy The M-51? - Vehicle Review''' - ''Sako Sniper''}}
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-The {{PAGENAME}} is a relatively complex tank to play at its battle-rating as it has a hoist of characteristics that serve the tank well, yet an equal amount of characteristics that are a detriment to the tank's ability to perform its roles.
+The {{PAGENAME}} is a relatively complex tank to play as it has characteristics that serve the tank well, yet just as many characteristics that are a detriment to the tank's ability to perform its roles.
-The {{PAGENAME}}'s weaknesses in should be recognized first. Its survivability after a first hit is pretty poor as the {{PAGENAME}} is built on a M4A3 hull with no substantial armour improvement. As such the front armour array has very poor protection against the kind of armaments the tank is expected to go against. What's also not helping is the tank's relatively large size between the Sherman hull body and the very long 105 mm gun, it would be relatively easy to spot an exposed {{PAGENAME}} from a distance and destroy it. The {{PAGENAME}} is also not the fastest tank around its battle-rating, so moving from cover to cover can take a while and expose the {{PAGENAME}} to gunfire. Another drawback is the ammunition composition available, with only chemical-energy shells available. This means one needs to take care of light cover or foliage that would detonate the shell before it can reach its target.
+The {{PAGENAME}}'s weaknesses should be recognized first. Its survivability after a first hit is poor as the {{PAGENAME}} is built on a M4A3 hull with no substantial armour improvement. As such the front armour array has poor protection against the kind of armaments the tank is expected to go against. What is also not helping is the tank's relatively slow speed, which makes travelling from cover to cover a longer chore. Combined with the tank's large profile with the Sherman hull body and the long 105 mm gun, it would be relatively easy to spot an exposed {{PAGENAME}} from a distance and destroy it. Another drawback is the ammunition composition available, with only chemical-energy shells (HEAT, HE, Smoke) available. This means that the gunner must ensure there is no light cover or foliage that would detonate the shell before it can reach its target.
 However, noteworthy characteristics of the {{PAGENAME}} for its favor is, of course, the armament. The large 105 mm gun is capable of delivering a HEAT shell a distance away. This allows the tank to attack targets of its choosing without regards to penetration drop-off with distance. The turret also has a reasonable traverse rate and elevation ranges, allowing for quick target responses and use in different terrain and hills.
-With these considerations in mind, the {{PAGENAME}} would excel in the "sniper tank" or "ambusher" role. Play these roles in the defense as the {{PAGENAME}} does not have great mobility to get to a number of locations before the enemy will. Instead, allow the enemy to roll into the {{PAGENAME}}'s field of fire closer in the friendly team side. Set up in areas covering known enemy advances towards the objectives, their transit in between objectives, or their movements into friendly front-lines after capturing the objectives. Good fire zones can be established with the 105 mm's HEAT round, using the generous gun depression angles for hull-down locations to use terrain as cover. Alternatively, one may also exploit the {{PAGENAME}}'s height to find rock formations low enough to cover the hull, but also expose the turret to allow the {{PAGENAME}} to fire from behind cover before withdrawing to reload so the enemy doesn't hit and penetrate the turret.
+With these considerations in mind, the {{PAGENAME}} would excel in the "sniper tank" or "ambusher" role. Play these roles in the defense as the {{PAGENAME}} does not have great mobility to get to certain locations before the enemy will. Instead, allow the enemy to roll into the {{PAGENAME}}'s field of fire closer in the friendly team side. Set up the {{PAGENAME}} in areas covering known enemy advances towards the objectives, their transit in between objectives, or their movements into friendly front-lines after capturing the objectives. Good fire zones can be established with the 105 mm's HEAT round, using the generous gun depression angles for hull-down locations to use terrain as cover. Alternatively, one may also exploit the {{PAGENAME}}'s height to find rock formations low enough to cover the hull, but also expose the turret to allow the {{PAGENAME}} to fire from behind cover before withdrawing to reload so the enemy doesn't hit and penetrate the turret.
-Alternatively, the {{PAGENAME}} may be used as a "brawler" role by getting up close to the enemy. This role is not well-advised due to the {{PAGENAME}}'s weak armour, slow mobility average reload speed. However, the tank's gun and turret traverse rate allow the {{PAGENAME}} to be rather responsive in close-quarter combat. Perform this roles with allies, especially those in more dangerous tanks like heavy tanks, in order to reduce the likelihood that the {{PAGENAME}} is the first to be targeted during these attacks. If the {{PAGENAME}} is caught isolated, it will very quickly be gunned to pieces. Use the available smoke grenades to make a retreat if needed.
+Alternatively, the {{PAGENAME}} may be used as a "brawler" role by getting up close to the enemy. This role is not well-advised due to the {{PAGENAME}}'s weak armour, slow mobility, and average reload speed. However, the tank's gun and turret traverse rate allow the {{PAGENAME}} to be rather responsive in close-quarter combat. Perform this roles with allies, especially those in more dangerous tanks like heavy tanks, in order to reduce the likelihood that the {{PAGENAME}} is the first to be targeted during these attacks. If the {{PAGENAME}} is caught isolated, it will very quickly be torn to pieces. Use the available smoke grenades to make a retreat if needed.
 === Pros and cons ===