Mörkö-Morane - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 183603 by U12635407 (talk) V-engines are a subclass of the broader inline group.

2024-03-17T10:45:31Z

Undo revision 183603 by U12635407 (talk) V-engines are a subclass of the broader inline group.

U12635407: /* Description */ Changed information regarding the engines. Despite in-game being marked as inline the Hispano-Suiza 12Y and Klimov VK-105 are both V12 engines and not inline engines. This can be fact checked from Wikipedia if someone really wants to.

2024-03-17T10:06:37Z

‎Description: Changed information regarding the engines. Despite in-game being marked as inline the Hispano-Suiza 12Y and Klimov VK-105 are both V12 engines and not inline engines. This can be fact checked from Wikipedia if someone really wants to.

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‎Description: Updated to new format

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406. 30 Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 fighters were delivered by France in February 1940 and these fighters saw little to no combat during the Winter War. Germany later delivered more M.S.406 and M.S.410 fighters captured from the French. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the result of a series of modifications applied to all 41 M.S.406 in service, with captured Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder engines and more available armament. The result was a much more improved M.S.406, however, deliveries were slow and the first example arrived in 1944. The aircraft still performed decently during the Continuation War, thanks in part to superior tactics used by the Finnish pilots.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]], this aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder V12 engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder V12 engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler. The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]], this aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler. The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
 == General info ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406. 30 Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 fighters were delivered by France in February 1940 and these fighters saw little to no combat during the Winter War. Germany later delivered more M.S.406 and M.S.410 fighters captured from the French. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the result of a series of modifications applied to all 41 M.S.406 in service, with captured Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder engines and more available armament. The result was a much more improved M.S.406, however, deliveries were slow and the first example arrived in 1944. The aircraft still performed decently during the Continuation War, thanks in part to superior tactics used by the Finnish pilots.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]], this aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler. The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]], this aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder V12 engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder V12 engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler. The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406. 30 Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 fighters were delivered by France in February 1940 and these fighters saw little to no combat during the Winter War. Germany later delivered more M.S.406 and M.S.410 fighters captured from the French. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was the result of a series of modifications applied to all 41 M.S.406 in service, with captured Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder engines and more available armament. The result was a much more improved M.S.406, however, deliveries were slow and the first example arrived in 1944. The aircraft still performed decently during the Continuation War, thanks in part to superior tactics used by the Finnish pilots.
-This aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings. The name roughly translates as "Bogeyman-Morane" or "Monster-Morane", reflecting its unusual construction.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]], this aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler. The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
 == General info ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]].
-This aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings. The name roughly translates as "Bogeyman-Morane" or "Monster-Morane", reflecting its unusual construction.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler.
+This aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings. The name roughly translates as "Bogeyman-Morane" or "Monster-Morane", reflecting its unusual construction.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a choice between either a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition, or a 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 120 rounds and access to the notorious "minengeschoβ" rounds. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler.
 The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]].
-This aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings. The name roughly translates as "Bogeyman-Morane" or "Monster-Morane", reflecting its unusual construction.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler.
+This aircraft is a Finnish modification of the French Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, as shown by the camouflage and markings. The name roughly translates as "Bogeyman-Morane" or "Monster-Morane", reflecting its unusual construction.  The main differences between the original M.S.406 and the Mörkö-Morane are the engine and nose-mounted weapon. The [[M.S.406C1]], which is featured in the game, has a Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 12-cylinder inline engine and a 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon with 60 rounds of ammunition. In contrast, the Finnish Mörkö-Morane has a Soviet Klimov VK-105P 12-cylinder inline engine and a 12.7 mm Berezin UB heavy machine gun with 230 rounds of ammunition. Other airframe improvements include a more aerodynamic engine cowling (the nose is rounded instead of being squared-off like many French aircraft) and a [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109]]-style oil cooler.
 The new engine provides the Mörkö-Morane with over 300 more hp than the M.S.406C1, making it an excellent energy fighter. While the armament is rather light, it's adequate for the battle rating. Fans of Finnish aviation and those looking for a low-tier Swedish premium will greatly enjoy this Franken-aircraft.
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 The 527 km/h top speed is comparable to the [[Hurricane Mk I/L]]. This is much faster than all biplanes and most early monoplanes, so the {{Specs|name}} will rarely have issues outrunning its opponents. The acceleration and climb rate are incredible at low altitudes. The turning capability is on par with the [[Yak-1]], which means that it can keep up with most enemy fighters in dogfights if uptiered, but low-rank aircraft will often outturn it. If played as an energy fighter, almost no contemporaries can match the {{Specs|name}}.
-However, the original M.S.406 airframe was not designed to handle the kind of speeds that the {{Specs|name}} regularly reaches. The turning and roll performance will begin to compress early on, and during extended dives the handling can get quite brick-like. The actual wing rip speed of 756 km/h IAS is high for its rank and will not be a problem, but be sure to manage the airspeed for optimal shooting and maneuvering.
+However, the original M.S.406 airframe was not designed to handle the kind of speeds that the {{Specs|name}} regularly reaches. The turning and roll performance will begin to compress early on, and during extended dives the handling can get quite brick-like. The actual wing rip speed of 756 km/h IAS is high for its rank and will not be a problem, but be sure to manage the airspeed for optimal shooting and manoeuvring.
 It should also be noted that the Soviet engine is tuned for low altitude performance. Stay under 3,000 m for optimal speed, climb, and acceleration. Though most early fighters perform poorly at high altitudes anyway, being caught by a [[MiG-3 (Family)|MiG-3]] at 5,000 m might not end well.
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 ** 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
-The single 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine gun firing through the propeller hub is the Mörkö-Morane's primary weapon when stock. While it does not have much burst mass by itself, it works fine against the fragile fighters commonly seen at its rank. The Air targets belt will easily set opponents ablaze and is the best choice overall. The Ground targets belt has powerful cermet-core rounds and might be useful against lightly armored vehicles. 230 rounds is a decent supply but still try to conserve your ammunition. When attacking larger aircraft, try to aim for fuel tanks, cockpits, and engines for quick and efficient kills.
+The single 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine gun firing through the propeller hub is the Mörkö-Morane's primary weapon when stock. While it does not have much burst mass by itself, it works fine against the fragile fighters commonly seen at its rank. The Air targets belt will easily set opponents ablaze and is the best choice overall. The Ground targets belt has powerful cermet-core rounds and might be useful against lightly-armoured vehicles. 230 rounds is a decent supply but still try to conserve your ammunition. When attacking larger aircraft, try to aim for fuel tanks, cockpits, and engines for quick and efficient kills.
-A 20 mm MG 151 cannon can be equipped instead of the 12.7 mm MG. The canon can be loaded with Minengeschoß rounds that are devastating to enemy airframes.
+A 20 mm MG 151 cannon can be equipped instead of the 12.7 mm MG. The cannon can be loaded with Minengeschoß rounds that are devastating to enemy airframes.
 The twin 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns are decent as far as rifle-calibre MGs go, but they play second fiddle to the Berezin UB. They have a high rate of fire and shoot relatively small bullets that tend to spark upon glancing hits. The wing mounting makes convergence an issue and the ammo supply is rather low. Use them at close range and try the Universal or Tracers belts to set your enemies on fire.

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 ** 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
-The single 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine un firing through the propeller hub is the Mörkö-Morane's primary weapon when stock. While it does not have much burst mass by itself, it works fine against the fragile fighters commonly seen at its rank. The Air targets belt will easily set opponents ablaze and is the best choice overall. The Ground targets belt has powerful cermet-core rounds and might be useful against lightly armored vehicles. 230 rounds is a decent supply but still try to conserve your ammunition. When attacking larger aircraft, try to aim for fuel tanks, cockpits, and engines for quick and efficient kills.
+The single 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine gun firing through the propeller hub is the Mörkö-Morane's primary weapon when stock. While it does not have much burst mass by itself, it works fine against the fragile fighters commonly seen at its rank. The Air targets belt will easily set opponents ablaze and is the best choice overall. The Ground targets belt has powerful cermet-core rounds and might be useful against lightly armored vehicles. 230 rounds is a decent supply but still try to conserve your ammunition. When attacking larger aircraft, try to aim for fuel tanks, cockpits, and engines for quick and efficient kills.
 A 20 mm MG 151 cannon can be equipped instead of the 12.7 mm MG. The canon can be loaded with Minengeschoß rounds that are devastating to enemy airframes.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=morko_morane Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/479189-morko-morane/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
-{{AirManufacturer MS}}
+{{AirManufacturer VL}}
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 * A choice between two presets:
-* 1 x 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine gun, nose-mounted (230 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
+** 1 x 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine gun, nose-mounted (230 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
-* 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
+** 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg) + 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
 The single 12.7 mm Berezin UB machine un firing through the propeller hub is the Mörkö-Morane's primary weapon when stock. While it does not have much burst mass by itself, it works fine against the fragile fighters commonly seen at its rank. The Air targets belt will easily set opponents ablaze and is the best choice overall. The Ground targets belt has powerful cermet-core rounds and might be useful against lightly armored vehicles. 230 rounds is a decent supply but still try to conserve your ammunition. When attacking larger aircraft, try to aim for fuel tanks, cockpits, and engines for quick and efficient kills.

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 * Good survivability
 * Long WEP time at low to medium altitudes
 '''Cons:'''