Leopard 2AV - Revision history

U136146036: Minor changes to parts within the page

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Minor changes to parts within the page

U28580205: /* Pros and cons */

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‎Pros and cons

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‎Usage in battles

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‎Armaments: Updated

U38088265: /* History */

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‎History

U12017485: /* History */ Added devblog entry

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‎History: Added devblog entry

U117247556: fixed innacuracies in the "see also" section

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fixed innacuracies in the "see also" section

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-The armour is capable of defeating M735 and most early HEATFS rounds when hitting the composite armour arrays, but the lower plate is very weak due to the layout of the composite armour. There is a fuel tank sandwiched between the composite armour which will usually lead to a fuel fire or even fuel detonation when hit. It is recommended to play hull down if you don't have FPE as the hull protection is very unreliable. The turret cheeks are near-invulnerable to all but the strongest rounds. However as with all MBTs, the area around the gun mantlet is quite weak.
+The armour is capable of defeating M735 and most early HEATFS rounds when hitting the composite armour arrays, but the lower plate is very weak due to the layout of the composite armour. There is a fuel tank sandwiched between the composite armour which will usually lead to a fuel fire or even fuel detonation when hit. It is recommended to play hull down if you don't have FPE as the hull protection is very unreliable. The turret cheeks are near-invulnerable to all but the strongest rounds. However as with all MBTs, the gun mantlet is quite weak, resulting in a rather large weak spot when playing hull-down.
 '''Armour type:'''<!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-Its mobility is what makes the Leopard 2AV great. The acceleration is good, but making sharp turns at high speed can lead to flipping. Reverse speed is acceptable, enough to get out of a sticky situation quickly.
+The Leopard 2AV has effectively the same powerpack as its successors; a 1,500 hp MTU MB 873 Ka-501engine allows this Leopard to quickly manoeuvre the map. Although, the Leopard 2AV is slightly heavier than the Leopard 2A4 and significantly heavier than the Leopard 2K, resulting in a loss of 1.2 hp/t against the 2A4 and 4.0 hp/t against the 2K.
 {{tankMobility|abMinHp=2,032|rbMinHp=1,327}}
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 === Modifications and economy ===
 {{Specs-Economy}}
-Start with Parts and FPE, then go for the APFSDS projectile.
+Start with Parts and FPE, then it is preferred to go for DM23, as the stock 105mm HEATFS is inadequate for this BR.
 == Armaments ==
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Hull can block at least one HE hit from late game tanks without consequences (unless it was an SPG)
+* Turret front is almost impervious to chemical projectiles, with exceptions to stronger ATGMs commonly found at this BR
-* Turret front is almost HEATFS proof, can survive some weaker ATGMs
+* Blowout panels for the turret bustle, greatly improving survivability
-* Has blowout panels, which greatly increases survivability
+* 16 smoke grenades firing 2 at a time, for 8 pops in total
-* 8 smoke groups
+* Three machine guns with focused fire allows this tank to dispatch slower ATGMs
-* Has three MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
+* High mobility compared to its contemporaries
-* Mobility is a bit better than comparable MBTs
+* Most fuel tanks are external
 '''Cons:'''
-* Final ammunition has worse angled and flat penetration than [[TTD]] or [[TAM 2C]]
+* DM33 (105) at its BR may feel underwhelming
-* No thermal scope at rank VI
+* No thermals at rank VI
-* If ammo rack is hit directly through the tank, it is likely that the tank simply explodes; a penetrating hit on either side can render the tank unable to fight regardless
+* Turret bustle carries less ammo than other production Leopard 2 variants at 12 shells instead of 15, carrying more will result in detonation of the tank if the secondary ammo stowage is hit.
-* While the fuel tank in the front reduces spalling, the armour plate behind it makes spall again
+* Additional armor plate behind the frontal fuel tank may produce spall if penetrated.
-* The turret cheek can be penetrated by even autocannon-equipped SPAAs, as it takes less than 50 mm of penetration
+* Hull armor is inadequate for its BR
 == History ==

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 * Has blowout panels, which greatly increases survivability
 * 8 smoke groups
-* Has 3 MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
+* Has three MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
-* Mobility is a bit better than MBTs at the same battle rating
+* Mobility is a bit better than comparable MBTs
 * Most of the fuel tanks are external
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 * If ammo rack is hit directly through the tank, it is likely that the tank simply explodes; a penetrating hit on either side can render the tank unable to fight regardless
 * While the fuel tank in the front reduces spalling, the armour plate behind it makes spall again
-* The turret cheek can be penetrated by even 8.0 battle rating SPAAs, as it takes less than 50 mm of penetration
+* The turret cheek can be penetrated by even autocannon-equipped SPAAs, as it takes less than 50 mm of penetration
-* The armour on the hull is not nearly enough to stop any APFS-DS rounds
+* The armour on the hull is not nearly enough to stop any APFSDS rounds
 * The turret roof is not HE proof and it is reasonably easy to hit machine guns above it

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Basically a better armoured [[TTD]]
+* Hull can block at least one HE hit from late game tanks without consequences (unless it was an SPG)
-** Hull can block at least one HE hit from late game tanks without consequences (unless it was an SPG)
+* Turret front is almost HEATFS proof, can survive some weaker ATGMs
-** NERA placement is more solid and turret front is actually almost HEATFS proof, can survive some ATGMs
+* Has blowout panels, which greatly increases survivability
-** The ammo rack is more compact
+* 8 smoke groups
-** 8 smoke groups
+* Has 3 MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
-** Has 3 MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
+* Mobility is a bit better than MBTs at the same battle rating
-* Mobility is great
+* Most of the fuel tanks are external
 '''Cons:'''
-* Final ammunition has worse angled penetration than [[TTD]] or [[TAM 2C]]
+* Final ammunition has worse angled and flat penetration than [[TTD]] or [[TAM 2C]]
 * No thermal scope at rank VI
 * If ammo rack is hit directly through the tank, it is likely that the tank simply explodes; a penetrating hit on either side can render the tank unable to fight regardless
 * The turret roof is not HE proof and it is reasonably easy to hit machine guns above it

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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
+| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
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 | Pintle (loader) || 2,000 (200) || 1,200 || -10°/+75° || ±180°
 |-
-| Pintle (commander) || 2,000 (200) || 1,200 || -10°/+75° || ±180°
+| Pintle (commander) || 2,000 (200) || 1,200 || -10°/+75° || ±45°
 |-
-| Coaxial || 4,600 (200) || 1,200 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 4,600 (200) || 1,200 || - || -
 |-
 |}
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 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 * Basically a better armoured [[TTD]]
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-The Leopard 2AV is a prototype tank design submitted to the US Army competition where it competed against the XM-1, predecessor of the Abrams MBT, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground. The tank is a further development of the Leopard 2K project. American Army specialists involved in the project advised to increase the tank’s protection, which by the beginning of the 70s was inadequate to meet modern challenges. In 1977, a version of the Leopard 2K with a modified hull and turret was submitted for testing in the United States under the designation Leopard 2AV. The prototype went overseas as two experimental chassis and three finished turrets. The tank was armed with the 105 mm L7A3 rifled gun, developed in Great Britain. After the tests ended, the tank was equipped with a 120-mm Rheinmetall gun, right there, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. It was this version that later went into series production under the designation Leopard 2.
+The Leopard 2AV is a prototype tank design submitted to the US Army competition where it competed against the XM-1, predecessor of the Abrams MBT, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground. The tank is a further development of the Leopard 2K project. American Army specialists involved in the project advised to increase the tank's protection, which by the beginning of the 70s was inadequate to meet modern challenges. In 1977, a version of the Leopard 2K with a modified hull and turret was submitted for testing in the United States under the designation Leopard 2AV. The prototype went overseas as two experimental chassis and three finished turrets. The tank was armed with the 105 mm L7A3 rifled gun, developed in Great Britain. After the tests ended, the tank was equipped with a 120-mm Rheinmetall gun, right there, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. It was this version that later went into series production under the designation Leopard 2.
 ''-From [[wt:en/news/7797-development-leopard-2av-en|Devblog]]''

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-The Leopard 2AV is the main prize of the huge Summer Quest event, this main battle tank will take rank VI in the German armored vehicles tech tree. The tank is a transitional version from the Leopard 1 to the serial Leopard 2: the vehicle has the 105 mm L7A3 cannon familiar from the first series, while the FCS, engine and armor layout correspond to the early Leopards of the second series.
+The Leopard 2AV is a prototype tank design submitted to the US Army competition where it competed against the XM-1, predecessor of the Abrams MBT, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground. The tank is a further development of the Leopard 2K project. American Army specialists involved in the project advised to increase the tank’s protection, which by the beginning of the 70s was inadequate to meet modern challenges. In 1977, a version of the Leopard 2K with a modified hull and turret was submitted for testing in the United States under the designation Leopard 2AV. The prototype went overseas as two experimental chassis and three finished turrets. The tank was armed with the 105 mm L7A3 rifled gun, developed in Great Britain. After the tests ended, the tank was equipped with a 120-mm Rheinmetall gun, right there, at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. It was this version that later went into series production under the designation Leopard 2.
-The arsenal of shells for the 105mm gun includes HEATFS, HESH and a pair of APFSDS shells. Armor-piercing DM23 and DM33 will become the most popular in battles due to their excellent armor penetration and reliable ballistics.
+''-From [[wt:en/news/7797-development-leopard-2av-en|Devblog]]''
 == Media ==

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 ;Related development
 * [[Leopard 2 (Family)]]
 ** [[Leopard 2A4]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[XM-1 (GM)]]
 == External links ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:L7A3 (105 mm)/Ammunition|DM12, DM512, DM23, DM33}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]]. Good mobility, acceptable armor, and a OK gun makes it a deadly tank in the hands of a skilled player.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]].
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-The armor is capable of defeating M735 and most early HEAT-FS rounds when hitting the composite armor arrays, but the lower plate is very weak due to the layout of the composite armor. Do note there is a fuel tank sandwiched between the composite armor which will usually lead to a fuel fire or even fuel detonation when hit. It is recommended to play hull down if you don't have FPE as the hull protection is very unreliable. The turret cheeks are near-invulnerable to all but the strongest rounds. However as with all MBTs, the area around the gun mantlet is quite weak.
+The armour is capable of defeating M735 and most early HEATFS rounds when hitting the composite armour arrays, but the lower plate is very weak due to the layout of the composite armour. There is a fuel tank sandwiched between the composite armour which will usually lead to a fuel fire or even fuel detonation when hit. It is recommended to play hull down if you don't have FPE as the hull protection is very unreliable. The turret cheeks are near-invulnerable to all but the strongest rounds. However as with all MBTs, the area around the gun mantlet is quite weak.
 '''Armour type:'''<!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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 | Hull || 340 - 360 mm || 50 mm ''Top'' <br> 20 mm ''Bottom'' || 20 mm || 20 - 45 mm
 |-
-| Turret || 320 - 415mm ''Turret front'' <br>250~ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 160mm (KE) - 260mm (CE) || 28 - 59 mm || 20 - 40 mm
+| Turret || 320 - 415mm ''Turret front'' <br>250~ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 160 mm (KE) - 260 mm (CE) || 28 - 59 mm || 20 - 40 mm
 |-
 | Cupola || 80 mm || 80 mm || 80 mm || 18 mm
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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=2,032|rbMinHp=1,327}}Mobility is what makes the tank great. It is between a [[M1A2 Abrams]] and a [[T-55AMD-1]]. Acceleration is good, but do remember that making sharp turns at high speed can lead to flipping. Reverse speed is acceptable, enough to get out of a sticky situation quickly.
+Its mobility is what makes the Leopard 2AV great. The acceleration is good, but making sharp turns at high speed can lead to flipping. Reverse speed is acceptable, enough to get out of a sticky situation quickly.
 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}As usual, Parts, FPE, then APFSDS. It is recommended to get a SL booster when playing the tank as the repair cost is astronomical.
+{{Specs-Economy}}
 == Armaments ==
 {{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
 === Main armament ===
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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
 <!-- ''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.'' -->
-{{main|MG3A1 (7.62 mm)}}As usual, we have 2 7.62 machine guns on the turret and 1 in coaxial mount. Useful to gun down low-flying jets and helicopters. Can occasionally penetrate some lightly armored vehicles also.
+{{main|MG3A1 (7.62 mm)}}
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-You are in a very compromised situation in this tank. Urban confrontations should help a bit more in the long run though.
+''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Basically a better armoured [[TTD]]
 ** Hull can block at least one HE hit from late game tanks without consequences (unless it was an SPG)
-** NERA placement is more solid and turret front is actually almost HEAT-FS proof, can survive some ATGMs
+** NERA placement is more solid and turret front is actually almost HEATFS proof, can survive some ATGMs
 ** The ammo rack is more compact
 ** 8 smoke groups
-** Has 3 7.62mm machine guns with focused fire to get rid of slow ATGMs
+** Has 3 MGs with focused fire to get rid of slow-flying ATGMs
 * Mobility is great
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 == Media ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-[[XM-1 (GM)]]
+;Related development
-[[Leopard 2A4]]
+;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 == External links ==