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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/4405-development-la-11-the-last-of-its-kind-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] and was removed from the store after the [[wt:en/news/5608-shop-summer-sale-independence-day-en|2018 Summer Sale]]. It was again made available briefly as part of the [[wt:en/news/7222-shop-summer-sale-in-the-gaijin-store-en|2021 Summer Sale]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a late propeller fighter developed as an improved version of the La-9. Initially named as La-130, the aircraft was further enhanced based on VVS recommendations and renamed as La-9M. With increased fuel capacity and weight, it was later certified as the La-11 in 1947. However, by 1951, with the rise of jet fighters, the La-11 became obsolete. It had limited combat success and was primarily used as a trainer. The aircraft found second life with Soviet allies like the KPAF and PLAAF before being phased out in favour of jet fighters.
 == General info ==

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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The La-11 is a long-range version of his brother, the [[La-9]]. Most of its flight performance is identical, besides a heavier weight due to additional fuel tanks. The weight itself is in fact the culprit of it, making La-11 underperform compared to the La-9. At full load, it performs nowhere close to its predecessor, while in lighter load it makes it fairly identical to the La-9. Therefore, bringing less fuel is suggested for better flight performance.
+The La-11 is a long-range version of its brother, the [[La-9]]. Most of its flight performance is identical, besides a heavier weight due to additional fuel tanks. The weight itself is in fact the culprit, making La-11 underperform compared to the La-9. At full load, it performs nowhere close to its predecessor, while with lighter loads it makes it fairly identical to the La-9. Therefore, bringing less fuel is suggested for better flight performance.
-Like the La-9 and many designs from Lavochkin Design Bureau, the La-11 is specialized at below 4,000 m (around 13,000 ft) thanks to its M-82FN engine found on many earlier Soviet air-cooled propellers. This engine, at 1,650 hp when spaded, could push the La-11 up to 680 km/h at 6,800 m albeit its worse performance to liquid-cooled engines at such altitude. So keeping yourself below 4,000 m is suggested, which might become a problem when being suppressed by late WWII propellers at higher altitudes.
+Like the La-9 and many designs from Lavochkin Design Bureau, the La-11 is specialized at below 4,000 m (around 13,000 ft) thanks to its M-82FN engine found on many earlier Soviet air-cooled propellers. This engine, at 1,650 hp when spaded, could push the La-11 up to 680 km/h at 6,200 m albeit with worse performance compared to liquid-cooled engines at such altitude. Staying below 4,000 m is required for optimal engine output, which might become a problem when being suppressed by late WWII propellers at higher altitudes.
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-Thanks to its development era at very early Cold War, the fuel tanks were equipped with nitrogen generator which helped to suppress a fire if the tanks were penetrated, making it less prone to being set aflame.
+Thanks to its development era at very early Cold War, the fuel tanks were equipped with nitrogen generators which helped to suppress a fire if the tanks were penetrated, making it less prone to being set aflame.
 The protection itself is nothing to be proud of: a 55 mm glass-plate up front at the windshield and a 66 mm one at the back, as well as a 8.5 mm steel plate in the lower rear side of the cockpit. It might absorb some damage from 12.7 mm MGs, but anything beyond that calibre can finish off the pilot with ease.
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 * 3 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (75 rpg = 225 total)
-The NS-23 cannons are common to players who played Yakovlev fighters as well, mostly fitted at the cowl with fairly few rounds. In Lavochkin's case, it has 225 rounds to spare with 75 rounds per guns spread around the engine fairing, one less gun than its predecessor. The calibre of this gun alone is feared by many aircraft including the heaviest bombers. A few accurate shots from the the "Air targets" belts can ruin their day quickly with ease. Heavier planes will also suffer from severe or even lethal damage. But do keep in mind that 225 rounds in total is not a good news for trigger-happy players, so fire these guns in short bursts.
+The NS-23 cannons are common to players who played Yakovlev fighters as well, mostly fitted in the engine cowl with fairly few rounds. In the La-11's case, it has 225 rounds to spare with 75 rounds per guns spread around the engine fairing, one less gun than its predecessor. The calibre of this gun alone is feared by many aircraft including the heaviest bombers. A few accurate shots from the "Air targets" belts can ruin their day quickly with ease. Heavier planes will also suffer from severe or even lethal damage. But do keep in mind that 225 rounds in total is not good news for trigger-happy players, so fire these guns in short bursts.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 Upon quick inspection of the La-11, players can find some noticeable differences from the original La-9: one less cannon and the removal of the cooling system under the fuselage. The plane itself performs like a less powerful version of the La-9 with longer range, so players of La-9 will quickly feel like home.
-A common feature of Lavochkin aircraft is the air-cooled engine and the La-11 is no exception: the same M-82FN engine is retained from its predecessor so in terms of speed and acceleration; aside from the fact that the extended range costed manoeuvrability reduction on La-11, at lower fuel time, the fighter performs just like a La-9 does. While the engine is powerful enough to accelerate the plane to 680 km/h at higher altitude, this plane is not a high-altitude interceptor with its sluggish performance against fighters at similar tier; so keeping the plane below 4,000 m and waiting for teammates to pursuit fighters to lower altitude is the better option. With its acceleration, it helps La-11 to make powerful strikes upon fighters which have been bailed from a maneuver, three 23 mm NS-23 cannons can make very short work of any enemy with ease. Alternatively, if players feel confident with their gunnery, these cannons also serve as a great head-on weaponry thanks to its positioning and a fairly straight ballistic. With some trick moves, you can even win a fight against P-47s in one piece!
+A common feature of Lavochkin aircraft is the air-cooled engine and the La-11 is no exception: the same M-82FN engine is retained from its predecessor so in terms of speed and acceleration; aside from the fact that the extended range costed manoeuvrability reduction on La-11, at lower fuel time, the fighter performs just like a La-9 does. While the engine is powerful enough to accelerate the plane to 680 km/h at higher altitude, this plane is not a high-altitude interceptor with its sluggish performance against fighters at similar tier; so keeping the plane below 4,000 m and waiting for teammates to pursuit fighters to lower altitude is the better option. With its acceleration, it helps La-11 to make powerful strikes upon fighters which have been bailed from a manoeuvre, three 23 mm NS-23 cannons can make very short work of any enemy with ease. Alternatively, if players feel confident with their gunnery, these cannons also serve as a great head-on weaponry thanks to its positioning and a fairly straight ballistic. With some trick moves, you can even win a fight against P-47s in one piece!
 But keep in mind that the La-11 suffers from subpar, or sometimes even inferior directional control when the plane is at around 700 km/h, which can be common if you have to chase down fighters which have been baited down, so it is essential to learn how to compensate the directional control with your ailerons.
 Overall, the La-11 is still a fighter that players can enjoy; while the firepower and low-altitude acceleration is sufficient, most of the time, you will have to face fighters that can be up to 3 km above you, which is very challenging to deal with.
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 == History ==
-==== See also: [[La-9]] ====
+The new La-134/La-9M then passed for certification and was renamed to its current name - Lavochkin La-11 (NATO: Fang) in the same year; assembled at Factory 21 (UAC Sokol Aircraft Plant in Nizhny Novgorod) under the factory name Izdeliye 51. It was manufactured until 1951 when newer jets were already soaring through the skies, which also marked the end of propeller fighters; the aircraft scored very few victories over its enemies due to the late introduction and were mostly used as trainers. Most of them were then transferred to Soviet allies such as the KPAF and PLAAF, where they would have a second life before they were finally all replaced by jets.
 == Media ==
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 == External links ==
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+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[wt:en/news/4405-development-la-11-the-last-of-its-kind-en|[Devblog] La-11: The Last of Its Kind]]

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 == Usage in battles ==
-Having a quick inspection to La-11, players can find some noticeable difference from the original La-9: one less cannon and the removal of the cooler under the fuselage. But after all, the plane itself performs like a discount version of La-9 with longer range, so players of La-9 will quickly feel like home.
+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-A common feature of Lavochkin's aircrafts is an air-cooled engine and La-11 is no exception, the same M-82FN engine is retained from his brother so in terms of speed and acceleration; aside from the fact that the extended range costed maneuverability reduction on La-11, at lower fuel time, the fighter performs just like a La-9 does. While the engine is powerful enough to accelerate the plane to 680 km/h at higher altitude, this plane is nowhere a high-altitude interceptor with its brick-like performance against fighters at similar tier; so keeping the plane below 4000 m and wait for teammates to pursuit fighters to lower altitude is a viable way to go; with its acceleration, it helps La-11 to make powerful strikes upon fighters which have been bailed from a maneuver, three 23 mm NS-23 cannons can make very short work of any enemy with ease. Alternatively, if players feel confident with their gunnery, these cannons also serve as a great head-on weaponry thanks to its positioning and a fairly straight ballistic; with some trick moves, you can even win a fight against P-47s in one piece!
+A common feature of Lavochkin aircraft is the air-cooled engine and the La-11 is no exception: the same M-82FN engine is retained from its predecessor so in terms of speed and acceleration; aside from the fact that the extended range costed manoeuvrability reduction on La-11, at lower fuel time, the fighter performs just like a La-9 does. While the engine is powerful enough to accelerate the plane to 680 km/h at higher altitude, this plane is not a high-altitude interceptor with its sluggish performance against fighters at similar tier; so keeping the plane below 4,000 m and waiting for teammates to pursuit fighters to lower altitude is the better option. With its acceleration, it helps La-11 to make powerful strikes upon fighters which have been bailed from a maneuver, three 23 mm NS-23 cannons can make very short work of any enemy with ease. Alternatively, if players feel confident with their gunnery, these cannons also serve as a great head-on weaponry thanks to its positioning and a fairly straight ballistic. With some trick moves, you can even win a fight against P-47s in one piece!
-But keep in mind that La-11 suffers from subpar, or sometimes even inferior directional control when the plane is at around 700 km/h, which can be common if you have to chase down fighters which have been baited down, so it is essential to learn how to compensate the directional control with your ailerons.
+But keep in mind that the La-11 suffers from subpar, or sometimes even inferior directional control when the plane is at around 700 km/h, which can be common if you have to chase down fighters which have been baited down, so it is essential to learn how to compensate the directional control with your ailerons.
-Overall, La-11 is still a sufficient fighter that players can enjoy; while the firepower and low-altitude acceleration is sufficient, most of the time, you will have to face fighters that can be up to 3 km above you, which is very challenging to deal with.
+Overall, the La-11 is still a fighter that players can enjoy; while the firepower and low-altitude acceleration is sufficient, most of the time, you will have to face fighters that can be up to 3 km above you, which is very challenging to deal with.
 === Manual Engine Control ===

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 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
-La-11 is a long-range version of his brother, La-9 in nature; most of its flight performance is identical other than its heavier weight due to additional fuel tanks. The weight itself is in fact the culprit of it, making La-11 underperforms than La-9; at full load, it performs nowhere close to his brother, while in lighter load makes it fairly identical to La-9; therefore, bringing less fuel is suggested for better flight performance.
+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-Like La-9 and many designs from Lavochkin Design Bureau, La-11 is specialized at below 4000 m (around 13000 ft) thanks to its M-82FN engine found on many earlier Soviet air-cooled propellers; this engine, at 1650 hp when spaded, could push La-11 up to 680 km/h at 6800m albeit its worse performance to liquid-cooled engines at such altitude. So keeping yourself below 4000 m is suggested, which might become a problem when being suppressed by late WWII propellers at higher altitudes.
+Like the La-9 and many designs from Lavochkin Design Bureau, the La-11 is specialized at below 4,000 m (around 13,000 ft) thanks to its M-82FN engine found on many earlier Soviet air-cooled propellers. This engine, at 1,650 hp when spaded, could push the La-11 up to 680 km/h at 6,800 m albeit its worse performance to liquid-cooled engines at such altitude. So keeping yourself below 4,000 m is suggested, which might become a problem when being suppressed by late WWII propellers at higher altitudes.
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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
-Thanks to its development era at very early Cold War, the fuel tanks were equipped with nitrogen generator which helped to suppress a fire if the tanks were penetrated; making it less prone to being set aflame.
+<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-While the protection itself is nowhere to be proud of: a 55 mm glass-plate up front at the windshield and a 66 mm one at back, as well as a 8.5 mm steel plate at the lower rear side of the cockpit. It might migrate some damage from 12.7 mm, but anything beyond that can finish off the pilot with ease.
+The protection itself is nothing to be proud of: a 55 mm glass-plate up front at the windshield and a 66 mm one at the back, as well as a 8.5 mm steel plate in the lower rear side of the cockpit. It might absorb some damage from 12.7 mm MGs, but anything beyond that calibre can finish off the pilot with ease.
 * Steel plate
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 * 3 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (75 rpg = 225 total)
-NS-23 cannons are common to those players who player Yakovlev's fighters as well, mostly fitted at the cowl with fairly few rounds. In Lavochkin's case, it has 225 rounds to spare with 75 rounds per guns spread around the engine fairing, one less gun to his brother. The caliber of this gun alone fears many aircrafts including the heaviest bombers, with aerial rounds, a few accurate shots land on fighters can ruin their day quickly with ease; the heaviest of bombers will also suffer from severe or even lethal damage. But do keep in mind that 225 rounds in total is not a good news for trigger-happy players, so fire these guns in short bursts.
+The NS-23 cannons are common to players who played Yakovlev fighters as well, mostly fitted at the cowl with fairly few rounds. In Lavochkin's case, it has 225 rounds to spare with 75 rounds per guns spread around the engine fairing, one less gun than its predecessor. The calibre of this gun alone is feared by many aircraft including the heaviest bombers. A few accurate shots from the the "Air targets" belts can ruin their day quickly with ease. Heavier planes will also suffer from severe or even lethal damage. But do keep in mind that 225 rounds in total is not a good news for trigger-happy players, so fire these guns in short bursts.
 == Usage in battles ==
-''To be edited.''
+''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 * Powerful nose-mounted cannons
 * High rate of fire
-* Ability to fire half the guns (One 23 mm cannon is bound as light machine guns, the other two are cannons)
+* Ability to fire the guns separately (one 23 mm cannon is bound as light machine guns, the other two are cannons)
-* Good performance below 3 km thanks to the powerful engines
+* Good performance below 3 km thanks to the powerful engine
 * Decent roll rate
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 * Doesn't perform well at altitudes above 4 km
-* Low ammo capacity (worsen due to it has one less gun than La-9)
+* Low ammo capacity (one less gun than the La-9)
 * Powerful recoil
 * Poor frontal cockpit visibility

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a premium pack in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] and was removed from the store after the [[wt:en/news/5608-shop-summer-sale-independence-day-en|2018 summer sale]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/4405-development-la-11-the-last-of-its-kind-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] and was removed from the store after the [[wt:en/news/5608-shop-summer-sale-independence-day-en|2018 summer sale]].
 == General info ==
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 == Media ==
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 {{Youtube-gallery|UUq9ls-kRFw|'''Premium Review: La-11 [Underwhelming]''' - ''Jengar'' }}
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 <!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
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 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/341963-la-11/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]