LOSAT - Revision history

U90572147: Added missing statistics such as armor values and engine values as well as including more up to date info and playstyle tips.

2024-08-14T08:09:01Z

Added missing statistics such as armor values and engine values as well as including more up to date info and playstyle tips.

U144183140: Spacing

2024-06-16T15:46:12Z

Spacing

U144183140: Armor information

2024-06-16T07:32:35Z

Armor information

U38088265: /* Main armament */

2024-04-16T19:22:08Z

‎Main armament

U44629479: /* Media */ Added Shooting Range episode

2024-03-31T16:41:04Z

‎Media: Added Shooting Range episode

U144218520: Undo revision 182594 by U144218520 (talk)

2024-03-09T05:28:40Z

Undo revision 182594 by U144218520 (talk)

U144218520: I have changed some of the wording and added the armor stats

2024-03-09T04:31:40Z

I have changed some of the wording and added the armor stats

U20913654: /* Pros and cons */ Incorrect statement about 150mm of armor around missile pods, actual armor is ~25mm

2024-02-05T17:12:12Z

‎Pros and cons: Incorrect statement about 150mm of armor around missile pods, actual armor is ~25mm

U44629479: /* Media */ Added skins

2023-12-31T14:40:22Z

‎Media: Added skins

U44629479: Edits

2023-12-29T07:20:44Z

Edits

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Sons of Attila"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8494-event-tokushu-heiki-assemble-and-test-an-honorable-missile-to-obtain-prizes-en|2023 Tokushu Heiki event]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Sons of Attila"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8494-event-tokushu-heiki-assemble-and-test-an-honorable-missile-to-obtain-prizes-en|2023 Tokushu Heiki event]]. Built on the already familiar XM8 / CCVL chassis, this peculiar ATGM tank destroyer requires a unique playstyle to fulfill it's niche role. This is also the only ATGM carrier to feature a solid rod penetrator with NO explosive mass whatsoever, giving you free range to shoot through obstacles whenever.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-The most well protected side of the tank is the front, even though it has not much armour since it is based on the CCVL chassis. The biggest weak spot on the tank is the huge turret on top of the chassis holding all the ammunition for the vehicle. Any tank that fires at the turret with its main armament will most certainly completely destroy the LOSAT.
+The most well protected side of the tank is the front, even though it has not much armour since it is based on the CCVL chassis. The biggest weak spot on the tank is the huge turret on top of the chassis holding all the ammunition for the vehicle. Any tank that fires at the turret with its main armament will most certainly completely destroy the LOSAT. From the front, it can shrug off most autocannon fire from 25mm and lower calibers. 30mm and up are a death sentence.
 '''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || 38.1 mm (76-59°) ''Front glacis''
+| Hull || 38.1 mm (76°) ''Front Glacis''
-.1 mm (17°) ''Front plate''
+.35 mm (31°) ''Lower Glacis''
+| 25.4 mm ''Top'' <br>44 mm ''Bottom'' || 12.7 - 25.4 mm || 10 - 25.4 mm
 |-
-| Turret || 25.4 mm (0-90°) ''Turret front'' <br>12 mm ''Window'' || 25.4 mm (18°)
+| Turret || 12.7 - 25.4 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 12 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm
 |-
-|Cupola
+| Cupola || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm
 |-
 |}
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 '''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
 <!-- Example: * Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick, tracks are 30 mm thick, and torsion bars are 60 mm thick. -->
 === Mobility ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
-<!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
+<!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->{{TankMobility|abMinHp=817|rbMinHp=509|AoAweight=}}
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=817|rbMinHp=509}}
+{| class="wikitable"
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-{{main|LOSAT/MGM-166}}
+{{main|LOSAT/MGM-166}}The 163mm MGM-166 LOSAT (Line of Sight Anti Tank) missile launcher is a unique weapon. It does not store any ammunition in the hull and has all of it's 12 MGM-166's in clear view. It does not feature a stabilizer nor can it elevate or depress itself, making it very difficult to use on hilly terrain. It can move it's turret horizontally in a wide arc in front of the vehicle however making it easy to take shots from around corners and retreat thanks to it's modest reverse. Finally, the MGM-166 is the only kinetic penetrator ATGM in game as well as the only projectile in game that gains penetration the farther away the target is due to it's massive accelerating missile. The downside is you cannot fire the weapon while at speeds greater than 4 km/h, to mitigate this, you can utilize the cruise control's battle mode to continue "moving" (limited to 3 km/h).
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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 ! Visual<br>discrepancy
 |-
-| '''1''' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __
+| '''1''' || 6&nbsp;''(+0)'' || ''6 (+0)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || n/a
 |-
 |}
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The LOSAT is a very quick and agile vehicle. Although it boasts very little armour, its armament is exceptional. The MGM-166 is small propelled dart which does more damage the further it travels. The LOSAT has a very simple playstyle: use it in long range engagements, roughly at 1,500 or more metres. This will allow the ammunition to speed up to its full potential dealing extreme amounts of penetration as much as 729 mm on a standard vehicle regardless of the angle and direction. It is recommended to snipe with the vehicle across maps. Simply position somewhere and let loose with your supersonic weapons.
+The LOSAT is a very quick and agile vehicle. Although it boasts very little armour, its armament is exceptional. The MGM-166 is small propelled dart which does more damage the further it travels. The LOSAT has a very simple playstyle: use it in long range engagements, roughly at 1,500 or more metres. This will allow the ammunition to speed up to its full potential dealing extreme amounts of penetration as much as 729 mm on a standard vehicle regardless of the angle and direction. It is recommended to snipe with the vehicle across maps. Simply position somewhere and let loose with your supersonic weapons. Avoid hilly terrain as it will offset your missile trajectory. The missiles are highly responsive as previously stated, therefore you can even attack enemies behind cover in a sort of orbital strike on some maps by simply pointing the missiles up slightly and letting loose by dragging your aiming reticle back to the ground, it's not a very reliable tactic, unfortunately. Lastly, avoid areas where light tanks or IFVs with autocannons may be as your thin armor will not stand up to them at closer ranges. Use your .50cal to ward off any potential light tanks or uppity SPAAs (such as breaking tracks) while you reposition or get closer to your allies.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 |-
 | Hull || 38.1 mm (76-59°) ''Front glacis''
-.1 mm (17°) ''Front plate'' 25.4 mm (77°) ''Lower glacis''
+.1 mm (17°) ''Front plate''
 .7 mm (8-87°) ''Driver's port''

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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Hull || 38.1 mm (76-59°) ''Front glacis''
 |-
-| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Turret || 25.4 mm (0-90°) ''Turret front'' <br>12 mm ''Window'' || 25.4 mm (18°)
 |-
-| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
+|Cupola
 |-
 |}
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_losat_ccv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-{{main|LOSAT/MGM-166A}}
+{{main|LOSAT/MGM-166}}
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[LOSAT/MGM-166A]] missile || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[LOSAT/MGM-166]] missile || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 12 (12) || rowspan="2" | - || rowspan="2" | ±110° || rowspan="2" | - || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
+| rowspan="2" | 12 (12) || rowspan="2" | - || rowspan="2" | ±110° || rowspan="2" | - || 26.4 || 36.5 || 44.4 || 49.1 || 52.2 || rowspan="2" | 19.50 || rowspan="2" | 17.25 || rowspan="2" | 15.90 || rowspan="2" | 15.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
+| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
 |-
 |}
 ==== Ammunition ====
-{{:LOSAT/MGM-166A/Ammunition|MGM-166A}}
+{{:LOSAT/MGM-166/Ammunition|MGM-166}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_losat_ccv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+;Videos
 == See also ==

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 ** Extremely high penetration values at farther ranges
 * 12 missiles are highly effective and enough to deal with targets
 * Missiles can be too fast for IRCM systems to react
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_losat_ccv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==