LAV-AD - Revision history

U105526937: I changed the description for the survivability and armor section.

2024-06-29T03:54:14Z

I changed the description for the survivability and armor section.

U38088265: /* Description */

2024-05-20T18:00:42Z

‎Description

U120887667: /* Usage in battles */

2023-12-18T05:55:54Z

‎Usage in battles

U31738360: Stingers have been changed to 13G thats why i edited the cons list a bit

2023-12-09T13:03:01Z

Stingers have been changed to 13G thats why i edited the cons list a bit

U28580205: /* Description */ Added new description compliant with new format

2023-07-10T22:35:52Z

‎Description: Added new description compliant with new format

U138446251: changed penetration values to match nerf

2023-06-27T08:31:14Z

changed penetration values to match nerf

U44629479: Edits

2023-06-05T16:41:45Z

Edits

U126556775: Armour values

2023-06-05T16:14:26Z

Armour values

U44629479: Undo revision 163485 by U43815784 (talk)

2023-06-03T14:16:37Z

Undo revision 163485 by U43815784 (talk)

U43815784 at 15:33, 31 May 2023

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''
+As the name of the vehicle implies, the LAV-AD is not very well armored in any area and can even be penetrated by heavy machine guns in the rear and side. To compensate, its mobility is excellent and it can travel across the battlefield very quickly; making it much more survivable.
 '''Armour type:'''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-In September 1982, the United States Marine Corps (USMC) adopted the General Motors' submission in the LAV (Light Armoured Vehicle) program as the LAV-25 in order to improve the strategic mobility of the USMC divisions. With enhanced mobility, there was a concern of these units out-speeding the anti-aircraft defense units, especially against short-range, low-altitude aircraft. As such in 1991, the USMC sought for a low-altitude air defence system capable of supporting a rapidly moving LAV (also known as Light Armoured Infantry (LAI)) battalion. The LAV-25 was chosen as the basis to keep pace with the unit, and configuration tests began in 1992 with a rapid-firing rotary cannon and Stinger missiles. By 1996, the Light Armoured Vehicle - Air Defence (LAV-AD) was put into production and the USMC received 17 units by 1997.
+In September 1982, the United States Marine Corps (USMC) adopted General Motors' submission in the LAV (Light Armored Vehicle) program as the LAV-25 in order to improve the strategic mobility of the USMC divisions. With enhanced mobility, there was a concern of these units out-speeding the anti-aircraft defense units, especially against short-range, low-altitude aircraft. As such, in 1991, the USMC sought for a low-altitude air defence system capable of supporting a rapidly moving LAV (also known as Light Armored Infantry (LAI)) battalion. The LAV-25 was chosen as the basis to keep pace with the unit, and configuration tests began in 1992 with a rapid-firing rotary cannon and Stinger missiles. By 1996, the Light Armored Vehicle - Air Defence (LAV-AD) was put into production and the USMC received 17 units by 1997.
-The LAV-AD introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]] meets the expectation set in its name. It is a lightly armoured vehicle intended for air defence. As such, the armour is basically non-existent, with even heavy machine guns having the capability of penetrating through the side armour. However, the LAV-AD has the provisions to provide close air defence with its Stinger missiles and rotary cannon. The Stinger missile helps reach out to far away enemy targets, ideally under 3 km away for the best effect of either hitting the target or tracking it enough that the enemy is forced to perform evasive manoeuvres that may break off their attack run. If the enemy closes within the Stinger's minimal arming distance, the rotary cannon could help provide the final-ditch effort to knock down the enemy aircraft before it can destroy the LAV-AD or its teammates. For a more ground-attack based role, the LAV-AD can also be equipped with M247 rocket pods in place of its Stinger missiles to complement its HVAP ammo belt that could help take care of lightly armoured targets.
+Introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]], the LAV-AD meets the expectation set in its name. It is a lightly armoured vehicle intended for air defence. As such, the armour is basically non-existent, with even heavy machine guns having the capability of penetrating through the side armour. However, the LAV-AD has the provisions to provide close air defence with its Stinger missiles and rotary cannon. The Stinger missile helps reach out to far away enemy targets, ideally under 3 km away for the best effect of either hitting the target or tracking it enough that the enemy is forced to perform evasive manoeuvres that may break off their attack run. If the enemy closes within the Stinger's minimal arming distance, the rotary cannon could help provide the last-ditch effort to knock down the enemy aircraft before it can destroy the LAV-AD or its teammates. For a more ground-attack based role, the LAV-AD can also be equipped with M247 rocket pods in place of its Stinger missiles to complement its HVAP ammo belt that could help take care of lightly armoured targets.
 == General info ==
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 '''Notes:'''
 * Belly armour is 7.31 mm thick.

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 '''Against Aircraft'''
-The LAV's Stinger SAMs are a mixed bag. The Stingers have a decent maximum range of around 6 km, and once launched, powerful IRCCM (InfraRed counter-counter measures) makes it difficult for flares or IRCM to distract the missile. However, it has a mere 10G overload, meaning even basic defensive manoeuvres may defeat the missile. Upon launching, a conspicuous smoke trail makes the missile as well as your own position easy to notice. In addition, a small warhead makes for unreliable damage; more survivable aircraft may need two or more hits to bring down.
+The LAV's Stinger SAMs are a mixed bag. The Stingers have a decent maximum range of around 6 km, and once launched, powerful IRCCM (InfraRed counter-counter measures) makes it difficult for flares or IRCM to distract the missile. However, it has a mere 13G overload, meaning even basic defensive manoeuvres may defeat the missile. Upon launching, a conspicuous smoke trail makes the missile as well as your own position easy to notice. In addition, a small warhead makes for unreliable damage; more survivable aircraft may need two or more hits to bring down.
 The Stinger's maximum range of around 6 km is usually sufficient to lock onto the hot engines of jet aircraft. It is useful against aircraft at 2-4 km altitude, where their manoeuvrability will be reduced, making it easier for the Stinger to hit. The Stinger is particularly useful against helicopters near the battlefield (1-3 km). Helicopters are slow and have a difficult time kinetically evading even the 10G Stinger, and the Stinger's IRCCM sees that IRCM and flares are useless against it. In an uptier, however, helicopters are actually the Stinger's worst nightmare. Helicopters do not have particularly hot engines, and with long-range air-to-ground missiles, the Stinger cannot even get a lock on helicopters at long ranges. In these cases, the LAV simply cannot do anything but hide from the helicopter.

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 '''Cons:'''
-* Stinger SAMs only have a maximum overload of 10G and have difficulty overcoming even basic defensive manoeuvres
+* Stinger SAMs only have a maximum overload of 13G and have difficulty overcoming most defensive manoeuvres
 * Long reload for the 25 mm gun
 * Bringing the Hydra rocket pod reduces the number of available Stingers and gives them a lengthy reload time after 4 have been launched

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].
+In September 1982, the United States Marine Corps (USMC) adopted the General Motors' submission in the LAV (Light Armoured Vehicle) program as the LAV-25 in order to improve the strategic mobility of the USMC divisions. With enhanced mobility, there was a concern of these units out-speeding the anti-aircraft defense units, especially against short-range, low-altitude aircraft. As such in 1991, the USMC sought for a low-altitude air defence system capable of supporting a rapidly moving LAV (also known as Light Armoured Infantry (LAI)) battalion. The LAV-25 was chosen as the basis to keep pace with the unit, and configuration tests began in 1992 with a rapid-firing rotary cannon and Stinger missiles. By 1996, the Light Armoured Vehicle - Air Defence (LAV-AD) was put into production and the USMC received 17 units by 1997.
 == General info ==

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 {{main|GAU-12U (25 mm)}}
-The main armament of the LAV-AD is the 25 mm GAU-12U rotary autocannon. It functions similarly to the 20 mm [[M168 (20 mm)|M168]] Vulcan found on the [[M163]] earlier on in the tech tree, but with a reduced ammo capacity of only 1,000 rounds total (500 ready, 500 reserve instead of 1,100 ready, 1,100 reserve) and fire rate (1,800 rpm instead of 3,000 rpm) due to the limited room in the vehicle and larger calibre ammunition. The gun is also fully stabilized, with handling akin to that of the [[HSTV-L]]; slower than the [[M163]] and [[M247]] Sergeant York but still fast enough to react to most aerial targets at close range, particularly helicopters and slow, low-flying jets. Like most other AAs, it comes with a Default, AP, and HE belt. The Default belt has a 1:1 AP to HE ratio and is the only belt the vehicle has access to when stock. The HE belt has a 3:1 HE to AP ratio while the AP belt has a 3:1 AP to HE ratio. The former is more effective against aircraft while the latter is more effective against armoured vehicles. The AP round is the same across all belts, and can penetrate 91 mm of armour at point blank range. Combined with the relatively high fire rate, it can easily destroy barrels, tracks, and machine guns with ease as well as being able to shred light vehicles.
+The main armament of the LAV-AD is the 25 mm GAU-12U rotary autocannon. It functions similarly to the 20 mm [[M168 (20 mm)|M168]] Vulcan found on the [[M163]] earlier on in the tech tree, but with a reduced ammo capacity of only 1,000 rounds total (500 ready, 500 reserve instead of 1,100 ready, 1,100 reserve) and fire rate (1,800 rpm instead of 3,000 rpm) due to the limited room in the vehicle and larger calibre ammunition. The gun is also fully stabilized, with handling akin to that of the [[HSTV-L]]; slower than the [[M163]] and [[M247]] Sergeant York but still fast enough to react to most aerial targets at close range, particularly helicopters and slow, low-flying jets. Like most other AAs, it comes with a Default, AP, and HE belt. The Default belt has a 1:1 AP to HE ratio and is the only belt the vehicle has access to when stock. The HE belt has a 3:1 HE to AP ratio while the AP belt has a 3:1 AP to HE ratio. The former is more effective against aircraft while the latter is more effective against armoured vehicles. The AP round is the same across all belts, and can penetrate 66 mm of flat armour at point blank range. Combined with the relatively high fire rate, it can easily destroy barrels, tracks, and machine guns with ease as well as being able to shred light vehicles.
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 ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''
-'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
+'''Armour type:'''
-* Aluminium alloy 7039 - Lower Glacis
+* High hardness rolled armour (hull, turret)
-* High hardness rolled armor - Upper Plate
+* Aluminium alloy 7039 (front lower glacis)
-* High hardness rolled armor - Turret
+* Bulletproof glass (windows)
-* Bulletproof glass - Turret
+* Wheel (tires)
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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-| Hull || 15 mm (45°) ''Lower Glacis'' <br> 7.31 mm (66°) ''Upper Plate''
+| Hull || 15 mm (45°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 7.31 mm (66°) ''Upper glacis''  || 7.31 mm (35°) ''Top'' <br> 7.31 mm (0-20°) ''Bottom'' || 7.31 mm (15°) || 7.31 mm <br> 5 mm ''Engine vents''
 |-
-| Turret || 12.7 mm (49°) + 60 mm (49°) ''Turret front'' <br> 7.31 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 7.31 mm || 7.31 mm || 7.31 mm
+| Turret || 12.7 mm (49°) ''Turret front'' <br> 60 mm (49°) ''Windows'' || 7.31 mm (9-10°) <br> 60 mm (9°) ''Windows'' || 7.31 mm (0-31°) || 7.31 mm
 |-
 |}
-'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
+'''Notes:'''
-<!-- Example: * Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick, tracks are 30 mm thick, and torsion bars are 60 mm thick. -->
 === Mobility ===
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 '''Threats'''
-In the LAV-AD, anything above a 12.7 mm calibre poses a big threat to the player. Therefore, the LAV's best defense is offense. You should aim to destroy enemy vehicles before they even have a chance to train any of their weapons (including heavy machine guns) on you. If taking hits cannot be avoided, your best bet is to first destroy autocannon-equipped vehicles that can shred the lightly armoured LAV (luckily, most autocannon-equipped vehicles are lightly armoured themselves and can be shredded by the LAV's 25 mm cannon or 70 mm Hydra 70 rockets). As for the main cannon of a MBT's, it's all down to luck; hope that the MBT either misses or the armor-piercing shell overpenetrates and deals no damage.
+In the LAV-AD, anything above a 12.7 mm calibre poses a big threat to the player. Therefore, the LAV's best defense is offense. You should aim to destroy enemy vehicles before they even have a chance to train any of their weapons (including heavy machine guns) on you. If taking hits cannot be avoided, your best bet is to first destroy autocannon-equipped vehicles that can shred the lightly armoured LAV (luckily, most autocannon-equipped vehicles are lightly armoured themselves and can be shredded by the LAV's 25 mm cannon or 70 mm Hydra 70 rockets). As for the main cannon of a MBT, it's all down to luck; hope that the MBT either misses or the armour-piercing shell overpenetrates and deals no damage.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 <!-- Example: * Rolled homogeneous armour (Front, Side, Rear, Hull roof)
 * Cast homogeneous armour (Turret, Transmission area) -->
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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-| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Hull || 15 mm (45°) ''Lower Glacis'' <br> 7.31 mm (66°) ''Upper Plate''
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-| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Turret || 12.7 mm (49°) + 60 mm (49°) ''Turret front'' <br> 7.31 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 7.31 mm || 7.31 mm || 7.31 mm
 |-
 |}