Kim Qui - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 169750 by U22067555 (talk)

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Undo revision 169750 by U22067555 (talk)

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U38088265 at 13:40, 23 April 2023

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 == Description ==
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 The USS PGM-59, commissioned in the RVNN (Republic of Vietnam Navy; HQVNCH) as the HQ-605 Kim Qui (Vietnamese Chu Nom: 金龜(or 龟); Golden Turtle) was a variant of the PGM-39-class gunboat built in the US, some of which were supplied to allied countries during the Cold War. The ship was built in Tacoma, WA in 1963 and was then transferred to RVNN; due to the lack of records both in Vietnam and the USN, the ship is currently lost in history.
-Although classified as a gunboat and only having just over 100 tons of displacement, the armaments onboard pack enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to the powerful 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons. However, the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by the main cannons of enemy gunboats with higher calibre HE shells. Additionally, Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat manoeuvrability and flexibility to retreat from a heated battlefield.
+The Kim Qui was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]]. Although classified as a gunboat and only having just over 100 tons of displacement, the armaments onboard pack enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to the powerful 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons. However, the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by the main cannons of enemy gunboats with higher calibre HE shells. Additionally, Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat manoeuvrability and flexibility to retreat from a heated battlefield.
 ''<small>Note: Not to be confused to a later Vietnamese Navy armed transport vessel HQ-605 which was sunk as the aftermath of Johnson South Reef Skirmish</small>''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
 The USS PGM-59, commissioned in the RVNN (Republic of Vietnam Navy; HQVNCH) as the HQ-605 Kim Qui (Vietnamese Chu Nom: 金龜(or 龟); Golden Turtle) was a variant of the PGM-39-class gunboat built in the US, some of which were supplied to allied countries during the Cold War. The ship was built in Tacoma, WA in 1963 and was then transferred to RVNN; due to the lack of records both in Vietnam and the USN, the ship is currently lost in history.
-The Kim Qui was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]]. Although classified as a gunboat and only having just over 100 tons of displacement, the armaments onboard pack enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to the powerful 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons. However, the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by the main cannons of enemy gunboats with higher calibre HE shells. Additionally, Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat manoeuvrability and flexibility to retreat from a heated battlefield.
+Although classified as a gunboat and only having just over 100 tons of displacement, the armaments onboard pack enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to the powerful 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons. However, the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by the main cannons of enemy gunboats with higher calibre HE shells. Additionally, Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat manoeuvrability and flexibility to retreat from a heated battlefield.
 ''<small>Note: Not to be confused to a later Vietnamese Navy armed transport vessel HQ-605 which was sunk as the aftermath of Johnson South Reef Skirmish</small>''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The USS PGM-59, commissioned in RVNN (Republic of Vietnam Navy; HQVNCH) as the HQ-605 Kim Qui (Vietnamese Chu Nom: 金龜(or 龟); Golden Turtle) was a variant of the PGM-39 class gunboat built in US which some of them were supplied to allied countries during the Cold War. The ship was built in Tacoma, WA in 1963 and was then transferred to RVNN; due to the lack of records both in Vietnam and USN, the ship is currently lost in history.
+The USS PGM-59, commissioned in the RVNN (Republic of Vietnam Navy; HQVNCH) as the HQ-605 Kim Qui (Vietnamese Chu Nom: 金龜(or 龟); Golden Turtle) was a variant of the PGM-39-class gunboat built in the US, some of which were supplied to allied countries during the Cold War. The ship was built in Tacoma, WA in 1963 and was then transferred to RVNN; due to the lack of records both in Vietnam and the USN, the ship is currently lost in history.
-Although classified as a gunboat and only has just over 100 ton displacement, the armaments onboard packs enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to its 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons onboard; but do remember that the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by main cannons by enemies' gunships with higher caliber HE shells, as well as Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat maneuverability and flexibility to retreat from heated battlefield.
+The Kim Qui was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]]. Although classified as a gunboat and only having just over 100 tons of displacement, the armaments onboard pack enough punch at its tier in broadsides thanks to the powerful 40 mm Bofors and twin 20 mm cannons. However, the ship itself is very prone to be devastated by the main cannons of enemy gunboats with higher calibre HE shells. Additionally, Kim Qui's turtle-like speed will hinder its combat manoeuvrability and flexibility to retreat from a heated battlefield.
 ''<small>Note: Not to be confused to a later Vietnamese Navy armed transport vessel HQ-605 which was sunk as the aftermath of Johnson South Reef Skirmish</small>''
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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-As a small and agile motor gun boat, the Kim Qui does not have significant armour protection. Its hull is constructed of 8 mm steel, while the superstructure is made of 4 mm steel. This level of protection offers little resistance to incoming fire and the vessel's survivability is therefore largely dependent on its speed and manoeuvrability.
+As a small motor gun boat, the Kim Qui does not have significant armour protection. Its hull is constructed of 8 mm steel, while the superstructure is made of 4 mm steel. This level of protection offers little resistance to incoming fire and the vessel's survivability is therefore largely dependent on its speed and manoeuvrability.
 The Kim Qui is divided into four sections, including the bow, midsection, engine room, and stern. Each section has its own health pool and can be individually damaged or destroyed. The vessel has a total displacement of 118 tons and is crewed by 17 sailors.
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 {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.'' -->
-Powered by 2 Mercedes Benz MB820, Kim Qui could travel up to 32 km/h; not only this name fits its literal translation "golden turtle", this also means the ship will neither be the first to reach capture zones nor heated combat zones. This speed for gunboat is even slower than gunboats from other nations with even more firepower, meaning any operations at open waters is extremely lethal.
+Powered by 2 Mercedes Benz MB820 engines, the Kim Qui can travel up to 32 km/h; not only does this fits its name "golden turtle", it also means the ship will neither be the first to reach capture zones nor heated combat zones. Any operations in open waters are likely to be extremely lethal.
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 {{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}
-The only main weapon on Kim Qui is a 40mm Bofors L/56 on Mark 3 mount located on the front deck; 40 mm Bofors are well known to players due to its reliable, sustained volley of fire and its devastating firepower against light targets. Thanks to its high penetration AP shells, sometimes even larger ships might fall victim to the gun or at least having many components disabled by the gun. But do remember that this is the only main weapon on the ship, keep the turret operable and its crew alive at all cost- the remaining Oerlikon 20 mm cannons and AN/M2 are nowhere as effective as the 40 mm gun.
+The Kim Qui's is a 40 mm Bofors L/56 on Mark 3 mount located on the front deck. The 40 mm Bofors is well known to players due to its reliable, sustained volley of fire and its devastating firepower against light targets. Thanks to its high penetration AP shells, sometimes even larger ships might fall victim to the gun or at least having many components disabled. But do remember that this is the only main weapon on the ship, keep the turret operable and its crew alive at all costs - the remaining Oerlikon 20 mm cannons and AN/M2 are nowhere near as effective as the 40 mm gun.
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
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 {{main|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}}
-Aside from a Bofors, Kim Qui is also equipped with 2 pairs of 20 mm/70 Oerlikon autocannons against oncoming aircrafts or attack boats at rear deck and superstructure; while the reload time is short enough and having generous ammo pool, the gun crew is exposed and prone to to both gunfire or shrapnel from HE shells.
+Aside from the Bofors, the Kim Qui is also equipped with 2 pairs of 20 mm/70 Oerlikon autocannons, which can be used against oncoming aircraft or to attack boats at rear deck and superstructure. While the reload time is short enough and having generous ammo pool, the gun crew is exposed and prone to both gunfire and shrapnel from HE shells.
 * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|HEF-T|High-explosive fragmentation tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
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 {{main|AN-M2 (12.7 mm)}}
-Although it might already had sufficient dual-purpose guns on the boat, Kim Qui still has 2 AN/M2 .50 cal machine gun at its disposal on the sides of the superstructure. It could serve as supplementary firepower to the Oerlikons; but just like the autocannons, be extremely careful to gunfire and shrapnel.
+Although it might already have sufficient dual-purpose guns on the boat, Kim Qui also has 2 AN/M2 .50 cal machine gun at its disposal on the sides of the superstructure. They can serve as supplementary firepower to the Oerlikons, but just like the autocannons, be extremely careful to gunfire and shrapnel.
 == Usage in battles ==
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-Do not be fooled by the translation of the name Kim Qui- golden turtle, the name might sound like something durable to enemy gunfire; but at only 8 mm of steel for the hull and 4 mm for superstructure, it might have better durability than wooden hull boats as there are few boats at its tier to have full-steel protection, but do not expect it can handle boats with extensive autocannon mounts or those have higher caliber cannons like 76 mm/3" guns; there are already gun boats at its tier to have equipped with T-34/85 turret or even Flak 38 88 mm cannon, let alone destroyer escorts even more artillery fire. To make matter worse, the overall speed is rather low as well at mere 27 km/h stock; attack boats at its tier can travel up to twice to its speed and they are very likely equipped with autocannons with high rate of fire, a very bad news for the 17 crews onboard as well as these can tear down the ship in seconds.
+Do not be fooled by the translation of the name Kim Qui- golden turtle, the name might sound like something durable to enemy gunfire; but at only 8 mm of steel for the hull and 4 mm for superstructure, it might have better durability than wooden hull boats as there are few boats at its rank to have full-steel protection, but do not expect it to handle boats with extensive autocannon mounts or those with higher calibre cannons like 76 mm/3" guns; there are already gun boats at its rank to have equipped with T-34/85 turret or even Flak 38 88 mm cannon, let alone destroyer escorts even more artillery fire. To make matters worse, the overall speed is rather low as well at mere 27 km/h stock; other boats at the rank can travel up to twice to its speed and they are very likely equipped with autocannons with high rate of fire, a very bad news for the 17 crews onboard as well as these can tear down the ship in seconds.
 The ship itself could be very challenging to handle, but at least there are Bofors and a few twin Oerlikon 20 mm at disposal; it might sound nowhere close to boats with quad mount autocannons or more advanced Cold-War autocannons, Kim Qui would still have the chance to taking out attack boats with the armaments onboard, the rate of fire will make sure they would at least have a very bad day. With AP belts selected, chances are it would face escort ships at coastal waters and this give it some firepower to harass enemies; do make sure to find covers from time to time. Another suggested way to increase its survivability is using only the Bofors at the frontal arc and have covers ready, it is better to launch a sudden strike upon enemies that sailing out straight way and face the waves of gunfire from different angle- Kim Qui would be preyed by predators as soon as it enters open waters.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Top speed of 32 km/h in RB, will struggle to cross large maps
 * Low crew count of 17 crew members
 * Will face destroyers which the ship itself could very unlikely to retaliate
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
-The PGM-59 class, Kim Qui (HQ 605), is a motor gun boat that is available to players in War Thunder as part of the American naval tree. It was added to the game in Update "Wind of Change" and is classified as a rank III vessel with a battle rating of 3.3 in all game modes (AB/RB/SB).
+<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
 == General info ==
-As a small and agile motor gun boat, the Kim Qui does not have significant armour protection. Its hull is constructed of 8mm steel, while the superstructure is made of 4mm steel. This level of protection offers little resistance to incoming fire and the vessel's survivability is therefore largely dependent on its speed and maneuverability.
+=== Survivability and armour ===
 The Kim Qui is divided into four sections, including the bow, midsection, engine room, and stern. Each section has its own health pool and can be individually damaged or destroyed. The vessel has a total displacement of 118 tons and is crewed by 17 sailors.
 === Mobility ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
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 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
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 == History ==
-The PGM-59 class, Kim Qui (HQ 605), is a motor gun boat that was designed and built in the United States in the 1950s. The vessel was initially designed to serve as a coastal patrol and interdiction vessel during the Korean War. Its primary role was to provide close-in gunfire support to troops operating along the coastline of Korea.
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
 == Media ==
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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
+The PGM-59 class, Kim Qui (HQ 605), is a motor gun boat that is available to players in War Thunder as part of the American naval tree. It was added to the game in Update "Wind of Change" and is classified as a rank III vessel with a battle rating of 3.3 in all game modes (AB/RB/SB).
 == General info ==
-=== Survivability and armour ===
+As a small and agile motor gun boat, the Kim Qui does not have significant armour protection. Its hull is constructed of 8mm steel, while the superstructure is made of 4mm steel. This level of protection offers little resistance to incoming fire and the vessel's survivability is therefore largely dependent on its speed and maneuverability.
 === Mobility ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
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 == History ==
-<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+The PGM-59 class, Kim Qui (HQ 605), is a motor gun boat that was designed and built in the United States in the 1950s. The vessel was initially designed to serve as a coastal patrol and interdiction vessel during the Korean War. Its primary role was to provide close-in gunfire support to troops operating along the coastline of Korea.
 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->

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 ''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
 === Secondary armament ===
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 === Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Has a powerful 40mm gun
+* Has a powerful forward-facing 40 mm gun
-* Has two mounts for dual 20mm guns
+* Has two mounts for dual 20 mm guns
 '''Cons:'''
-* Blind spot directly forward for 40mm gun, angling vessel is necessary
+* Blind spot directly forward for 40 mm gun, angling vessel is necessary to fire at short range
 * Shallow draft makes it impossible to consistently hit targets in rough seas
 * Top speed of 32 km/h in RB, will struggle to cross large maps