Ki-109 - Revision history

U169640344: added 2 more cons/also i want the po-2

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added 2 more cons/also i want the po-2

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U17577377 at 22:00, 5 March 2023

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U44629479: Undo revision 146108 by U125152974 (talk)

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Undo revision 146108 by U125152974 (talk)

U125152974: /* Description */

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‎Description

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U36466627: /* Usage in battles */ added personal experience using armour-piercing rounds

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‎Usage in battles: added personal experience using armour-piercing rounds

U44629479: /* Media */ Added Shooting Range episode

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‎Media: Added Shooting Range episode

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 * Extremely weak defensive armament
 * No armour besides the 75 mm gun cradle
 == History ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ki_109 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, refitted as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American high-altitude bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, to maximize performance.
-The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers but should not be used on agile fighters or fast-moving vehicles. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and conflicts with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].
+This bomber-interceptor was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]]. Its 75 mm gun is effective against bombers but should not be used on agile fighters or fast-moving vehicles. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and conflicts with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, refitted as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American high-altitude bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, to maximize performance.
-Based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, the Ki-109 was designed as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, in order to maximise performance.
+The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers but should not be used on agile fighters or fast-moving vehicles. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and conflicts with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].
 == General info ==

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 Based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, the Ki-109 was designed as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, in order to maximise performance.
-The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and combats with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also very effective against tanks if a clean hit shot in the tank, the tank is instantly destroyed,  depending on the tanks but in general.
+The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and combats with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ki_109 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 Based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, the Ki-109 was designed as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, in order to maximise performance.
-The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and combats with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
+The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. The Ki-109's defensive armament is poor, and combats with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also very effective against tanks if a clean hit shot in the tank, the tank is instantly destroyed,  depending on the tanks but in general.
 == General info ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ki_109 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 The Ki-109 isn't only about using the gun to attack ground targets, its also about intercepting enemies and returning safe and sound. While designed as an interceptor, the climbing rate is inadequate for this role when in stock condition. Sideclimbing is a mandatory rule one should obey to. Despite its size, which resembles a medium bomber, the Ki-109 is surprisingly manoeuvrable. Comparable to all twin-engined heavy fighters and on par with Germany's Fw 190 series. Still, it's better not to use those blessings for dog-fighting a fighter: use the Ki-109's manoeuvrability to evade the enemy bomber's defensive gunners if the first pass of a bomber interception fails. Another way to use the manoeuvrability is to outmanoeuvre inexperienced pilots in a heavy bomber who try to evade the first shot by making a turn like a single-engine fighter for another pass. Or, in ground attack at low altitude, the Ki-109 can regain its position quickly for another pass on enemy tanks below.
-Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without  drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 has a large explosive filler. While this is very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shell will just simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.
+Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without  drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with its very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 have a large explosive filler. While they are very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shells will often simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. They still can severe a wing but this requires an unusual accuracy. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.
-The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 do not penetrate light/normal pillboxes in direct hits, but they are very effective against all tanks when direct hits. Despite the above description, the armor-piercing rounds will often (but not always) rip a hit plane into shreds despite not exploding.
+The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 do not penetrate light/normal pillboxes in direct hits, but they are very effective against all tanks upon direct hit.
 === Manual Engine Control ===

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	Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 has a large explosive filler. While this is very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shell will just simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.		Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 has a large explosive filler. While this is very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shell will just simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.
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		+	The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 do not penetrate light/normal pillboxes in direct hits, but they are very effective against all tanks when direct hits. Despite the above description, the armor-piercing rounds will often (but not always) rip a hit plane into shreds despite not exploding.

	=== Manual Engine Control ===		=== Manual Engine Control ===

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|GSSJKUqU3WE|'''The Shooting Range #260''' - ''Challenge'' section at 09:58 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|GSSJKUqU3WE|'''The Shooting Range #260''' - ''Challenge'' section at 09:58 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|ObEcMPqFBbE|'''The Shooting Range #259''' - ''Tips & Tricks'' section at 10:29 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==

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 Based on the Mitsubishi [[Ki-67 (Family)|Ki-67]] heavy bomber, the Ki-109 was designed as an interceptor in an attempt to counter the American bombing raids that devastated Japan. It is armed with a 75 mm anti-aircraft gun modified for aircraft use, and almost all defensive armament from the bomber version has been stripped, except for the tail turret, in order to maximise performance.
-In-game, the Ki-109 functions much as it was intended to in reality. The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. Its own defensive armament is very poor, and it should avoid combat with fighters at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
+The 75 mm gun is effective against bombers, but struggles to hit small agile targets such as fighters. The Ki-96's defensive armament is poor, and combats with fighters should be avoided at all costs. Alternatively, the 75 mm gun is also effective against tanks if a clean hit can be obtained.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-The fuselage durability is strong enough to shrug off machine gun fire and some cannon rounds. To add to the plane's defense, there is a rear machine gunner which can protect the plane's tail. While so, its defensive armament can be under-performing and is likely to lose the defensive gunner before an enemy plane can be damaged as there is no protective glass for him. In fact, the Ki-109 doesn't have any armour except on the bottom of the gun itself, which is quite meaningless for the overall plane. Due to this, head-on attacks are strongly unadvised. Use the aircraft's manoeuvrability to evade incoming enemies in front of the plane. The Ki-109 is equipped with self-sealing tanks, meaning it can survive one of its wings being set alight and continue to accomplish its tasks. Though, it is advised to retreat to base if that happens.
+The fuselage durability is strong enough to shrug off machine gun fire and some cannon rounds. The Ki-109 doesn't have any armour except on the bottom of the gun itself, which is quite meaningless for the overall plane. The pilot has neither bulleproof glass nor armoured seat and the tail gunner is not protected either. Due to this, head-on attacks are strongly unadvised. Use the aircraft's manoeuvrability to evade incoming enemies in front of the plane. The Ki-109 is equipped with self-sealing tanks, meaning it can survive one of its wings being set alight and continue to fly. Though, it is advised to retreat to base if that happens.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 * 1 x 12.7 mm Ho-104 machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
 == Usage in battles ==
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 The Ki-109 isn't only about using the gun to attack ground targets, its also about intercepting enemies and returning safe and sound. While designed as an interceptor, the climbing rate is inadequate for this role when in stock condition. Sideclimbing is a mandatory rule one should obey to. Despite its size, which resembles a medium bomber, the Ki-109 is surprisingly manoeuvrable. Comparable to all twin-engined heavy fighters and on par with Germany's Fw 190 series. Still, it's better not to use those blessings for dog-fighting a fighter: use the Ki-109's manoeuvrability to evade the enemy bomber's defensive gunners if the first pass of a bomber interception fails. Another way to use the manoeuvrability is to outmanoeuvre inexperienced pilots in a heavy bomber who try to evade the first shot by making a turn like a single-engine fighter for another pass. Or, in ground attack at low altitude, the Ki-109 can regain its position quickly for another pass on enemy tanks below.
-Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without  drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. One thing to note: unlike other armour-piercing rounds that contains no more than 90 g of TNT, the armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 is filled with 460 g of TNT. While
+Boasting a 75 mm Type 88 cannon, the gun is quite versatile in taking down both air and ground targets. This, however, is not without  drawbacks: 15 rounds of ammo total, combined with very low rate of fire and relatively low bullet velocity, means every shot counts since there are no other offensive weapons on the Ki-109. It is advised to seek assistance from teammates to hunt down bombers. The recoil of the gun itself is another issue to consider, so in order to minimise inaccurate shots, try to shoot the target during a shallow dive. The armour-piercing rounds used in the Type 88 has a large explosive filler. While this is very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shell will just simply fly though an enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on impact.
-this is very deadly against ground and smaller naval targets, the shell will just simply fly though the enemy plane's airframe and will not detonate. Thus it is still recommended to use the HEIF-T belts against air targets as it features a much better shell velocity and will detonate on contract.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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