Khalid - Revision history

U44629479: Edited About template

2024-09-21T14:06:41Z

Edited About template

U44629479: Edits

2024-09-21T13:54:56Z

Edits

U4656018: Minor revisions as per current patches, in terms of ammunition choice and wording ambiguity

2024-08-03T16:02:03Z

Minor revisions as per current patches, in terms of ammunition choice and wording ambiguity

U38088265: /* Mobility */ Updated

2023-10-21T20:50:11Z

‎Mobility: Updated

U4656018: /* Ammunition */ adding description of L23 dart

2023-10-02T21:21:07Z

‎Ammunition: adding description of L23 dart

U38088265: /* Description */ Converted to disambig

2023-09-25T19:23:32Z

‎Description: Converted to disambig

U4656018: /* Description */ adding MBT2000 to the note as the tank has been introduced in game

2023-09-21T12:59:22Z

‎Description: adding MBT2000 to the note as the tank has been introduced in game

U38088265: /* Usage in battles */

2023-08-05T09:44:14Z

‎Usage in battles

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-08-05T09:37:46Z

‎Description

U4656018: Updated description and revision of FV number of Chieftain (4201, not 4001)

2023-08-05T05:25:09Z

Updated description and revision of FV number of Chieftain (4201, not 4001)

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 {{About
 | about = premium British medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = the Chinese MBT
+| usage = the premium Chinese medium tank
 | link = Al-Khalid-I
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 {{About
 | about = premium British medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = the prototype of the Pakistani Al-Khalid MBT
+| usage = the Chinese MBT
-| link = MBT2000
+| link = Al-Khalid-I
 }}
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (FV4030/2), which could be seen as the predecessor of the future FV4030/4 (Challenger 1), was developed as a new MBT mostly for export purpose. By the 1970s, Pahlavi Iran was demanding for a new MBT against its northern neighbors, Afghanistan and the Soviet Union; meanwhile, the British Army was also calling for a new MBT to upgrade the fleet of Chieftains (FV4201) against the menacing Warsaw Pact forces, especially those stationed in West Germany. As Iran had been a long-time user of the Chieftain Mk.5 with upgraded subsystems, the Pahlavi also planned to import more Chieftains with new FCS and powerplant under the name Shir (Lion, شیر). As the Islamic Revolution put an end to the Pahlavi's throne in 1979, further development of the complete prototype was halted, while domestic upgrades to the fleet of Chieftains also stalled due to the development of the MBT-80. As all the manufactured parts for the Shir needed to be utilised, the British sought for overseas customers and eventually Jordan became the only customer for the newly-upgraded Chieftain, known as the Khalid in their service.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (FV4030/2), which could be seen as the predecessor of the future FV4030/4 (Challenger 1), was developed as a new MBT mostly for export purpose. By the 1970s, Pahlavi Iran was demanding for a new MBT against its northern neighbors, Afghanistan and the Soviet Union; meanwhile, the British Army was also calling for a new MBT to upgrade the fleet of Chieftains (FV4201) against the menacing Warsaw Pact forces, especially British units stationed in West Germany. As Iran had been a long-time user of the Chieftain Mk.5 with upgraded subsystems, the Pahlavi also planned to import more Chieftains with new FCS and powerplant under the name Shir (Lion, شیر). As the Islamic Revolution put an end to the Pahlavi's throne in 1979, further development of the complete prototype was halted, while domestic upgrades to the fleet of Chieftains also stalled due to the development of the MBT-80. As all the manufactured parts for the Shir needed to be utilised, the British sought for overseas customers and eventually Jordan became the only customer for the newly-upgraded Chieftain, known as the Khalid in their service.
 Introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]], the Khalid is a modernized Chieftain Mk.5 with subsystem upgrades to cope with the heat of the Cold War. Thanks to a new 1,200 hp engine, it now enjoys better overall mobility over its predecessors in UK service while utilizing the fire control system from later Mk.10s. However, players have to be aware of its not-so-effective protection, as it lacks any composite armour.
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 Although the L11A5 gun and its calibre of 120 mm has been the weapon of choice for Chieftain, which was one of the most advanced tanks of its era, this is not the case for the Khalid. Since the overall upgrades on Khalid focus on the FCS, the gun laying mechanism is totally identical to its tech-tree predecessors, players might find this problematic as this gives less reaction time than its other NATO counterparts; but the relatively high rate of fire does mitigate some gun handling problems. It is still advised to keep extra situational awareness for best utilization.
-To conclude, Khalid has rather obsolete firepower for its tier; but aiming carefully or take flanks can still make good use of the gun.
+To conclude, Khalid has rather a somewhat outdated firepower for its tier; but aiming carefully or take flanks can still make good use of the gun.
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-* '''L15A3; APDS''' - The most common round for British 120 mm for pre-Challenger tanks and the only kinetic shell option for Khalid. Although it is more than enough to take down most tanks which happen to run into Khalid, but at its current BR where T-64A and T-72A appear, the shell very likely does nothing to them without hitting the LFP or driver's hatch. So aim carefully for a single-shot knock-out as the APDS has lesser spalling.
+* '''L15A3; APDS''' - The most common round for British 120 mm for pre-Challenger tanks and was once the only kinetic shell option for Khalid before L23 was added in later patches. Although it is more than enough to take down most tanks which happen to run into Khalid, but at its current BR where T-64A and T-72A appear, the shell very likely does nothing to them without hitting the LFP or driver's hatch. So aim carefully for a single-shot knock-out as the APDS has lesser spalling; perhaps avoid L15A3 for good as premium vehicles have all modifications researched, including the APFSDS.
 * '''L31A7; HESH''' - The other common round for British 120 mm up to this date, the shell itself has rather high penetration for a HESH shell and will very likely disintegrate any light vehicle that happen to run into Khalid. Alternatively, this also gives Khalid the chance to take down tanks with their hatches exposed as the shell "sticks" to the surface and cause extensive damage to the interior of enemy tanks, either from spalling or overpressure.
 * '''L23; APFSDS''' - Although it has been added in later patches after the introduction of Khalid, L23 can be said as the game-changer for Khalid as it finally offers equivalent firepower to its NATO/Warsaw-Pact/PLAGF counterparts with APFSDS. Not only it has sufficient velocity and penetration against tanks at its tier, careful shots on higher tanks can also send them to their kingdom come in one take; this will be the most universal shell for Khalid, but bringing some HESH is always a good idea when facing lightly-protected targets.
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Khalid can be described as "old but not obsolete": players will soon notice the flaws inherited from Chieftain series due to its early introduction, notably the protection which is identical to pre-Mk.10 Chieftains without any composite protection (especially the turret). With extra precaution according to the map and staying behind as a support tank for future tanks with overall better performance, the Khalid can still contribute to the team with its sufficient firepower and Challenger-equivalent mobility.
+The Khalid can be described as "old but not obsolete": players will soon notice the flaws inherited from Chieftain series due to its early introduction, notably the protection which is identical to pre-Mk.10 Chieftains without any composite protection (aka Stillbrew package, on the turret). With extra precaution according to the map and staying behind as a support tank for future tanks with overall better performance, the Khalid can still contribute to the team with its sufficient firepower and Challenger-equivalent mobility.
 For players who are used to the Chieftain series, for the most part it's similar to a Mk.5 with better ammunition. Thus, it only has the protection of a Mk.5, which has full RHA/CHA protection but fused with a Challenger-equivalent power pack. In most cases, players will be happy about the 120 mm rifled gun with sufficient penetration to take down Soviet MBTs of the era with L23 APFSDS; players will also enjoy the sufficient gun depression to handle Warsaw-Pact/PLAGF tanks with low depression due to their designs. However, due to the traditional design of Chieftain, most APFSDS of its tier will have no problem penetrating the RHA/CHA armour on the Chieftain series, let alone chemical shells i.e. HEAT-FS or ATGMs; thus, it is highly recommended to apply the tactics of most NATO tanks - that is, utilizing the nearby terrain for as much cover as possible.

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 The Chieftain series are known for their rather sluggish mobility and top speed (at only 48 km/h), but in Khalid's case, since the export version for Chieftains opted for the latest Rolls-Royce (later Perkins) CV-12 engine and TN-34 transmission which would eventually used on FV4030 Challengers, this means a vastly improvement on its mobility; not only this can push the tank at a higher top speed at 56 km/h with higher acceleration, it also has a high reverse speed (at -37 km/h), making it surprisingly flexible for enemy encounters.
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,860|rbMinHp=1,061}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,886|rbMinHp=1,076}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 * '''L15A3; APDS''' - The most common round for British 120 mm for pre-Challenger tanks and the only kinetic shell option for Khalid. Although it is more than enough to take down most tanks which happen to run into Khalid, but at its current BR where T-64A and T-72A appear, the shell very likely does nothing to them without hitting the LFP or driver's hatch. So aim carefully for a single-shot knock-out as the APDS has lesser spalling.
 * '''L31A7; HESH''' - The other common round for British 120 mm up to this date, the shell itself has rather high penetration for a HESH shell and will very likely disintegrate any light vehicle that happen to run into Khalid. Alternatively, this also gives Khalid the chance to take down tanks with their hatches exposed as the shell "sticks" to the surface and cause extensive damage to the interior of enemy tanks, either from spalling or overpressure.
-* '''L23; APFSDS'''
+* '''L23; APFSDS''' - Although it has been added in later patches after the introduction of Khalid, L23 can be said as the game-changer for Khalid as it finally offers equivalent firepower to its NATO/Warsaw-Pact/PLAGF counterparts with APFSDS. Not only it has sufficient velocity and penetration against tanks at its tier, careful shots on higher tanks can also send them to their kingdom come in one take; this will be the most universal shell for Khalid, but bringing some HESH is always a good idea when facing lightly-protected targets.
 {{:Ordnance BL Tk. L11 (120 mm)/Ammunition|Shot L15A3, L34, Shell L31A7, Shot L23}}

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 Introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]], the Khalid is a modernized Chieftain Mk.5 with subsystem upgrades to cope with the heat of the Cold War. Thanks to a new 1,200 hp engine, it now enjoys better overall mobility over its predecessors in UK service while utilizing the fire control system from later Mk.10s. However, players have to be aware of its not-so-effective protection, as it lacks any composite armour.
-''Note: Khalid (lit. eternal) is a common name in Arabic World and not to be confused with the Al-Khalid MBT from Pakistan''
+''Note: Khalid (lit. eternal) is a common name in Arabic World and not to be confused with the Al-Khalid MBT from Pakistan (aka [[MBT2000]]/VT-1 in NORINCO catalogue)''
 == General info ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Khalid can be described as "old but not obsolete": players will soon notice the flaws inherited from Chieftain series due to its early introduction, notably the protection which is identical to pre-Mk.10 Chieftain without any composite protection (especially the turret). With extra precaution according to the map and staying behind as a support tank for future tanks with overall better performance, Khalid can still contribute to the team with its sufficient firepower and Challenger-equivalent mobility.
+The Khalid can be described as "old but not obsolete": players will soon notice the flaws inherited from Chieftain series due to its early introduction, notably the protection which is identical to pre-Mk.10 Chieftains without any composite protection (especially the turret). With extra precaution according to the map and staying behind as a support tank for future tanks with overall better performance, the Khalid can still contribute to the team with its sufficient firepower and Challenger-equivalent mobility.
-==== Old but not Obsolete ====
+For players who are used to the Chieftain series, for the most part it's similar to a Mk.5 with better ammunition. Thus, it only has the protection of a Mk.5, which has full RHA/CHA protection but fused with a Challenger-equivalent power pack. In most cases, players will be happy about the 120 mm rifled gun with sufficient penetration to take down Soviet MBTs of the era with L23 APFSDS; players will also enjoy the sufficient gun depression to handle Warsaw-Pact/PLAGF tanks with low depression due to their designs. However, due to the traditional design of Chieftain, most APFSDS of its tier will have no problem penetrating the RHA/CHA armour on the Chieftain series, let alone chemical shells i.e. HEAT-FS or ATGMs; thus, it is highly recommended to apply the tactics of most NATO tanks - that is, utilizing the nearby terrain for as much cover as possible.
-In most cases, the overall performance of Khalid doesn't allow it going aggressive; but just like upgraded tanks from the major powers during the Cold War, Khalid could serve as a potent second-line support MBT where it can utilize its good gun handling and sufficient penetration to finish-off crippled enemies for friendlies, helping them to advance for victories; while Khalid itself can also serve as a stand-off sniper at complicated terrain thanks to its overall gun traverse limits - showing the hull to enemies is no better than Kamikaze and calling for a quick demise, as long as the projection area (or what's visible from enemies' POV) is small enough especially only showing the turret, the L23 APFSDS can make sure enemy tanks will meet their own demise rather quickly before they can retaliate.
+Although the hull design is insufficient for certain "doomsday" heavy tanks with high-penetration APCBC, the cast turret is another story; in most cases, full-calibre APCBC will do no harm to the tank, making the Khalid efficient to take down such tanks with APFSDS from safe distance, and sometimes even APFSDS of its era will have issue causing fatal damages to Khalid thanks to its irregularly shaped turret - a major plus for tanks with the need for hull-down.
-Overall, Khalid is a challenging tank for both new players or experienced GB tech-tree players due to its overall design; while it can earn extra SL and EXP for players, players will have to keep extra awareness for enemy targets due to the overall obsolete design - in most cases, who shoot first secures the victory.
+The other major improvement is the powerplant: instead of the traditional Leyland diesel engine used on Chieftain tanks, the Khalid is fitted with a Rolls-Royce (Perkins) CV-12 engine that could output up to 1,200 hp, almost twice as previous engines. For players who need to get used to future tanks with this powerplant, the Khalid can actually serve as the placeholder between Chieftain and Challenger; although British tanks are infamous for their slow speed (NATO tanks can go at least 10 km/h faster; while Warsaw-Pact/PLAGF tank can achieve the same speed at lower mass), the Khalid can at least keep up with their NATO counterparts on flat terrain thanks to its high engine output.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (FV4030/2) is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} British medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (FV4030/2), which could be said as the predecessor of the future FV4030/4 (commonly known as Challenger 1), was developed as an new MBT mostly for export purpose. By the 1970s, the Pahlavi Iran was demanding for a new MBT against his northern neighbors, Afghanistan and Soviet Union; meanwhile, the British Army also called for new MBT to upgrade the fleet of Chieftains (FV4201) against the menacing Warsaw-Pact forces, especially those stationed at West Germany which was the frontline at the time. As Iran has been a long-time user of Chieftain Mk.5 with upgraded subsystems, the Pahlavi also planned to import more Chieftains with new FCS and powerplant under the name Shir (Lion, شیر). As the Islamic Revolution put an end to the Pahlavi's throne in 1979, the completed prototype was halted for further development alongside with the domestic upgrades to the fleet of Chieftain due to the development of MBT-80. As there were the needs to utilize all the manufactured parts for Shir, British seek for overseas customers and eventually Jordan became the only customer for the newly-upgraded Chieftain known as the Khalid in their service until they have been put into reserve storages.
-A modernized Chieftain Mk.5 sold to Jordan in late 1970s after the Islamic Revolution in Iran spoiled the original sales to Iran. Thanks to a new 1,200 hp engine, it now enjoys better overall mobility over its predecessors in UK service while utilizing the fire control system from later Mk.10s. But players have to beware of its not-so-effective protection.
+Introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]] as a GE premium for the British ground tech-tree and introduced Jordan into the game, the Khalid is a modernized Chieftain Mk.5 with subsystem upgrades to cope with the heat of Cold War. Thanks to a new 1,200 hp engine, it now enjoys better overall mobility over its predecessors in UK service while utilizing the fire control system from later Mk.10s. But players have to beware of its not-so-effective protection without any composite armor.
 ''Note: Khalid (lit. eternal) is a common name in Arabic World and not to be confused with the Al-Khalid MBT from Pakistan''
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 == History ==
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-Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, Pahlavi Iran had already planned for upgrades on their armed forces equipment in view of the menacing Soviet forces in Central Asia and (subsequently, after the overthrown and execution of Hafizullah Amin in 1979) the bordering Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA), the plans for new MBTs for the Iranian Army were also on schedule as early as 1971. As the FV4001 Chieftain series MBT were already obsolete by the late 1970s with the introduction of advanced Soviet MBTs (i.e. T-64), the British were also attempting to upgrade a new export tank based on the Chieftain with better power pack and subsystems. The new tank, known as the Shir-1 (Lion-1), was based on the Chieftain Mk.5 and started its development in 1974, receiving more than 700 orders. Featuring upgraded FCS, the new tanks, at over a thousand of them and planned to be manufactured in Royal Ordnance Leeds, were intended to be delivered by 1980.
+Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, Pahlavi Iran had already planned for upgrades on their armed forces equipment in view of the menacing Soviet forces in Central Asia and (subsequently, after the overthrown and execution of Hafizullah Amin in 1979) the bordering Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA), the plans for new MBTs for the Iranian Army were also on schedule as early as 1971. As the FV4201 Chieftain series MBT were already obsolete by the late 1970s with the introduction of advanced Soviet MBTs (i.e. T-64), the British were also attempting to upgrade a new export tank based on the Chieftain with better power pack and subsystems. The new tank, known as the Shir-1 (Lion-1), was based on the Chieftain Mk.5 and started its development in 1974, receiving more than 700 orders. Featuring upgraded FCS, the new tanks, at over a thousand of them and planned to be manufactured in Royal Ordnance Leeds, were intended to be delivered by 1980.
 However, the Islamic Revolution put an end to the project, and the parts from this failed delivery to Iran needed to be dealt with. Plans included upgrading Chieftains in British service on the European Mainland which was deemed uneconomical by the eventual (but in vain) introduction of the MBT-80. Soon after, negotiations were made with Jordan who at the time needed new tanks for desert combat. The deal was made in November 1979 at £220 million for 274 tanks. The new "Khalid" featured an even better powerpack using the Rolls-Royce (later Perkins) CV-12 1,200 hp engine and the delivery started in 1981. The tank is currently still in service with Royal Jordanian Army alongside with some captured Mk.3P/5P from Iraq, who captured some quantities during the Iraq-Iran War.<ref>https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/UK/shir-1.php</ref>