KV-IB (Germany) - Revision history

U1112163: /* Ammo racks */ Added a line about enabling rack 4 to be empty for 50%

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 Notes:
 * Racks are modelled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
 * Turret empty: 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' shells.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was first unveiled in the game in [[Update_1.41#19.06.2014_-_1.41.27.12|Update 1.41.27]]. The KV-IB has been available a handful of times throughout its history, but relatively difficult to attain each time, making it one of the rarer vehicles in-game. It was first obtainable by purchasing select MSI products in Russia. In 2015, an event known as [[wt:en/news/3249/current/|"Summertime Madness"]] had the KV-1B available to be obtained as a prize. The vehicle has since been available to be obtained via events, such as the March 2016 [[wt:en/news/3610-special-team-deathmatch-win-rare-vehicles-en|"War Thunder:100"]] team deathmatch event and the Warbond shop in the [[wt:en/news/4312-shop-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en/|4th]], [[wt:en/news/5071-news-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en|5th]], and [[wt:en/news/5858-news-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en|6th]] War Thunder anniversary. Aside from these events, it is not available in-game or via the gift shop.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is one of the two Finnish captured KV-1 tanks from the Soviet Union during the Finnish-Soviet conflicts. This [[KV-1E]] (model 1940) that the Finns seized near Solomennoye, Petrozavodsk at the beginning of the Continuation War. Following the German designation of KV-1B, the Finns gave it the index number Ps. 272-1 and the nickname "Klimi". The Finns put it into service in early 1942. It was one of the few modern tanks that the Finns had at that time, but it had many problems. The tank crew had poor visibility, and the tank had many technical issues that made it unreliable. The Finns also lacked spare parts, so maintenance often stretched long times. The tank saw little action in the Lapland War, after which it transferred to the Training Battalion of the Tank Brigade on October 31, 1944. The Finns did not use it much after the war, even though they kept it until 1955. Both KV-1 tanks that the Finns captured are still in the Parola Tank Museum today.
-Performance wise, the KV-1B is identical to the Soviet [[KV-1E]] with the applique armour. The applique armour is seen on the front hull plate, lower glacis, bits of the sides, and the turret sides.
+It was first unveiled in the game in [[Update_1.41#19.06.2014_-_1.41.27.12|Update 1.41.27]]. The KV-1B is identical to the Soviet [[KV-1E]]. It has extra armour plates welded to its hull and turret. The 76 mm F-32 gun is not the strongest, but it can still pack a punch with its well-filled APHEBC or HE shells. The turret rotation is slow and the mobility is average. The front and side armour is very thick, except for the weak spots on the gun mantlet and the small turret cheeks. The KV-1B is a formidable tank at its rank.
-The KV-1B is unique for the German tree with its three-tone default camouflage of green, white, and brown. This was the Finnish armour camouflage scheme in World War 2, as the KV-1B represents one captured and being used in Finnish service.
+The KV-IB has been available a handful of times throughout its history, but relatively difficult to attain each time, making it one of the rarer vehicles in-game. It was first obtainable by purchasing select MSI products in Russia. In 2015, an event known as [[wt:en/news/3249/current/|"Summertime Madness"]] had the KV-1B available to be obtained as a prize. The vehicle has since been available to be obtained via events, such as the March 2016 [[wt:en/news/3610-special-team-deathmatch-win-rare-vehicles-en|"War Thunder:100"]] team deathmatch event and the Warbond shop in the [[wt:en/news/4312-shop-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en/|4th]], [[wt:en/news/5071-news-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en|5th]], and [[wt:en/news/5858-news-how-can-you-get-premium-vehicles-warbonds-en|6th]] War Thunder anniversary. Aside from these events, it is not available in-game or via the gift shop.
 == General info ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
 The {{PAGENAME}} has the following ammunition available:
 * BR-350A: The typical APBC with HE filler. This is the standard round most players will take as the default type. It is able to cause massive post-penetration damage if it does penetrate.
 * BR-350B: The new APHEBC with HE filler, sacrificing some explosive post-penetration damages for raw penetrating power and solid-shot spalling post-penetration damage. Recommended taking this shot as the primary weapon to use the extra penetration values.
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 |}
 Notes:
 * Racks are modeled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
 * Turret empty: 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' shells.
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Has extra 25 mm armour on the hull front and sides, and 30 mm on the turret sides
+* Amazing protection and survivability thanks to the add-on armour all around it
 * Features a unique Finnish camouflage
-* Good reload time
+* Good reload time of around 7 seconds
 * Gun does a lot of damage upon penetration
-* Very good top armour
+* Thick roof armour (30-40 mm) effectively protects it against strafing planes
-* Crew of five
+* Located on the German lineup, wont face dangerous guns like the KwK 40 in RB or SB.
 '''Cons:'''
-* Some of the spots are not covered by the additional armour
+* Gun has weak penetration, even medium tanks (e.g. [[T-34 (Family)|T-34]]) require you to target weakspots
-* Gun is basically the same as the L-11 cannon, therefore it's weak compared to other guns
+* Sluggish mobility: bleeds lots of speed when turning, below-average acceleration, and slow reverse speed
-* Slow repair times
+* No access to APCR shells, heavy tanks like the [[Churchill I]] can be tough to destroy
-* No access to APCR shells
+* Still has weakspots: driver's port (75 mm) and the frontmost area of the hull sides (75 mm)
-* Driver's port can easily be penetrated
+* Appears like a Soviet KV-1 so you may be mistakenly team killed in SB
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_kv_1B_finland Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[KV-1 (Family)]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Churchill III]]
 * [[ARL-44 (ACL-1)]]

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 * Sh-354T: Shrapnel shell. In ways, it is similar to the HE shell, except it has sufficient penetration value to deal with light tanks as well. Its explosion can also create shrapnel that can also be used against lightly armoured vehicles in a manner similar to HE shells.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:F-32 (76 mm)/Ammunition|BR-350A (MD-5 fuze), BR-350B (MD-8 fuze), OF-350M, Sh-354T}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 78 || 76 || 69 || 61 || 53 || 47
+| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 78 || 76 || 70 || 62 || 56 || 50
 |-
-| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 86 || 84 || 76 || 67 || 59 || 52
+| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 88 || 86 || 77 || 67 || 59 || 51
 |-
 | OF-350M || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
 |-
-| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 37 || 35 || 29 || 25 || 20 || 17
+| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 35 || 34 || 30 || 26 || 22 || 19
 |-
 |}
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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 |-
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 | BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 615 || 6.3 || 1.2 || 14 || 150 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 615 || 6.3 || 0.9 || 14 || 98.56 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 615 || 6.5 || 0.9 || 14 || 100.1 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
 | OF-350M || HE || 615 || 6.2 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 621 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 615 || 6.2 || 0.5 || 8 || 85 || 62° || 69° || 73°
+| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 615 || 6.44 || 1.2 || 14 || 85 || 62° || 69° || 73°
 |-
 |}

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 * [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_KV-1.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> KV-1]
 {{Germany heavy tanks}}
 {{Germany premium ground vehicles}}

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 The {{PAGENAME}} has the following ammunition available:
 * BR-350A: The typical APBC with HE filler. This is the standard round most players will take as the default type. It is able to cause massive post-penetration damage if it does penetrate.
-* BR-350B: The new APHEBC with HE filler, sacrificing some explosive post-pen damages for raw penetrating power and solid-shot spalling post-penetration damage. Recommended taking this shot as the primary weapon to use the extra penetration values.
+* BR-350B: The new APHEBC with HE filler, sacrificing some explosive post-penetration damages for raw penetrating power and solid-shot spalling post-penetration damage. Recommended taking this shot as the primary weapon to use the extra penetration values.
-* OF-350M: High-explosive shell. Though it should never be used for the purpose of penetrating an enemy tank, it can be useful for hull-breaking vulnerable vehicles, such as trucks and the like.
+* OF-350M: High-explosive shell. Though it should never be used for the purpose of penetrating an enemy tank, it can be useful for destroying lightly-armoured vehicles with overpressure, such as trucks and the like.
 * Sh-354T: Shrapnel shell. In ways, it is similar to the HE shell, except it has sufficient penetration value to deal with light tanks as well. Its explosion can also create shrapnel that can also be used against lightly armoured vehicles in a manner similar to HE shells.
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 * Does not like obstacle and hills
 * Reverse speed is below average
-* Finnish KV-1B looks like an Soviet KV-1 so you may be mistakenly team killed often in SB, however regularly updating teammates using the request location feature can negate this somewhat
+* Finnish KV-1B looks like a Soviet KV-1 so you may be mistakenly team killed often in SB, however regularly updating teammates using the request location feature can negate this somewhat
 == History ==

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 {{About
 | about = German heavy tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = other uses
+| usage = other versions
 | link = KV-1 (Family)
 }}
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 * Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick, tracks are 30 mm thick.
-* Roof armour is quite excellent, coming in at 30 - 40 mm. It will reliably protect from most autocannons, though aircraft with good driveability and +30mm weaponry may still pierce it. More importantly, it makes the vehicle quite resilient against rocket strikes from vehicles such as the [[Calliope|Calliope]].
+* Roof armour is quite excellent, coming in at 30 - 40 mm. It will reliably protect from most autocannons, though aircraft with good driveability and 30+ mm weaponry may still pierce it. More importantly, it makes the vehicle quite resilient against rocket strikes from vehicles such as the [[Calliope|Calliope]].
 *The lower glacis, unlike most other tanks, is not a weak spot! It is significantly better angled than the upper frontal plate. Furthermore, neither the MG port nor the drivers view slit are weak points. Discard them as targets if aiming for them.
 * Gun mantlet is an extra 75 mm bolted on to the turret, with some parts having an extra 90 mm added. This results in a spaced and overlapped part with ~150 mm. Only the cheeks left and right of the mantlet bulges should be shot! However, these areas are quite small and easily missed, if the turret is traversed.
 * Extra armour is not placed all over the tank, thus revealing some weaker areas on the front hull and sides.
-The Finnish KV-1B has excellent protection characteristics. Above from its naturally tough KV-1 body that consists primarily of 75 mm of armour, it has armour screens ranging of 25 and 30 mm thick on the hull and turret respectively. Those who fight the Russian [[KV-1E]] may understand some weak points, but the KV-1B remains a tough tank. Another part of why the KV-1B is quite a threat is that the tank is overall quite fast once it has accelerated. Coupled with the armour, this tank can be considered quite a swift bruiser.
+The Finnish KV-1B has excellent protection characteristics. Above from its naturally tough KV-1 body that consists primarily of 75 mm of armour, it has armour screens ranging of 25 and 30 mm thick on the hull and turret respectively. Those who fight the Soviet [[KV-1E]] may understand some weak points, but the KV-1B remains a tough tank. Another part of why the KV-1B is quite a threat is that the tank is overall quite fast once it has accelerated. Coupled with the armour, this tank can be considered quite a swift bruiser.
 Among this extra armour, the KV-1B still possesses a few weak points. Starting from the hull front, the driver's hatch and bow machine gun are uncovered by the extra plating. There are some small uncovered areas in the lower glacis as well if it can be targeted. In the hull sides, the 25 mm extra armour is mostly present at the higher part of the side armour behind the suspension, so aim closer towards the wheels, or even between the suspension wheels, to hit the thinner 75 mm side. Hitting the hull sides is a recommended tactic, as behind these are the ammunition and fuel tanks, which can ignite or explode if hit, instantly destroying the KV-1B. If these extra armour platings prove too hindering, rest assured that the rear hull armour is actually unprotected by these extra plates, so the usual thickness of 60-70 mm at the rear can be exploited by fast and flanking vehicles to immobilize the KV-1B through the transmission and engine. However, the strong hull front and sides make an angled KV-1B a dangerous enemy as it will then be very hard to penetrate through there,
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 The turret is better protected than the hull with 30 mm extra plates, but some weakness can still be found. In the turret front, the extra armour covers the flat side area that would normally be 75 mm thick, preventing easy turret cheek shots. However, the gun mantlet cheeks that are 90 mm and the tiny area under it that is 75 mm are not covered by these extra plates. With a sufficiently powerful weapon, this frontal turret area can be the only area that is easily penetrable when a KV-1B is aiming towards the player. The turret sides are another story. With 30 mm extra armour covering a large portion of it, it might actually be one of the worst areas to shoot the KV-1B at, as the movement from the KV-1B turret, coupled with the armour, can change the shot angle and simply bounce away from the shot. Despite all this, there are still small slivers of weak points in this 30 mm plate. Right around the area that the 30 mm plates seem to intersect, there are two holes present that will reveal the 75 mm armour underneath. This allows a clean shot to the turret side and, if the enemy is carrying lots of ammunition, a chance to strike one of the ammo racks in the turret and destroy the tank. The turret rear, like the hull rear, is not protected by extra armour, so a manoeuvre around the KV-1B to these areas can allow the player to use their weaponry against the more vulnerable hull and turret rear sides.
-Though the F-32 gun is at the weaker end of the Russian 76 mm guns, it is still quite powerful against most vehicles. One firepower trait to exploit on the KV-1B is the rather slow turret traverse rate. The KV-1B will have a hard time keeping its gun on flanking vehicles, especially those that are up close to it on the sides. With allies, a small light tank can get up close and force the KV-1B to try and turn its turret and hull to keep up with the small circling tank, allowing an ally with a powerful gun to hit the KV-1B at weak points when it is concentrating on the more immediate threat of the circling tank. Nevertheless, a small light tank can do plenty of damage itself while outrunning the KV-1B, using the aforementioned armour weak points. The tank is helpless to a quick foe if there are no other enemy players around to assist it.
+Though the F-32 gun is at the weaker end of the Soviet 76 mm guns, it is still quite powerful against most vehicles. One firepower trait to exploit on the KV-1B is the rather slow turret traverse rate. The KV-1B will have a hard time keeping its gun on flanking vehicles, especially those that are up close to it on the sides. With allies, a small light tank can get up close and force the KV-1B to try and turn its turret and hull to keep up with the small circling tank, allowing an ally with a powerful gun to hit the KV-1B at weak points when it is concentrating on the more immediate threat of the circling tank. Nevertheless, a small light tank can do plenty of damage itself while outrunning the KV-1B, using the aforementioned armour weak points. The tank is helpless to a quick foe if there are no other enemy players around to assist it.
 === Mobility ===
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 * Never blindly drive through an intersection - always check both ways before crossing, as this presents the largest opportunity for danger for this tank.
-'''''Open country'''''<br>
+'''Open country'''
-The armour of this tank allows it to engage in the long-range fighting that defines an open country. However, the gun on this tank does not allow it to engage targets at range. This means that in while playing in open country, it is a good idea to get into a good overwatch position or to charge the enemy until the KV-1B is capable of engaging at the optimal range for the 76 mm weapon. While the armour on this tank is among the best for the enemies it faces, there are still certain tanks to worry about. The main tanks to work about are those with the American 76 mm, German 75 mm L/48, Russian 57 mm and 85 mm, and of course all the large calibre guns such as the KV-2. These weapons are capable of piercing through the KV-1B armour at range, though this requires a lucky hit on an un-angled plate. Here are some tips when fighting in open country:
+The armour of this tank allows it to engage in the long-range fighting that defines an open country. However, the gun on this tank does not allow it to engage targets at range. This means that in while playing in open country, it is a good idea to get into a good overwatch position or to charge the enemy until the KV-1B is capable of engaging at the optimal range for the 76 mm weapon. While the armour on this tank is among the best for the enemies it faces, there are still certain tanks to worry about. The main tanks to work about are those with the American 76 mm, German 75 mm L/48, Soviet 57 mm and 85 mm, and of course all the large calibre guns such as the KV-2. These weapons are capable of piercing through the KV-1B armour at range, though this requires a lucky hit on an un-angled plate. Here are some tips when fighting in open country:
 * Always angle the tank - the unangled armour is good, but it is nearly impossible to pierce when properly angled.
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 * Advance - take the point or lead the charge, the KV-1B has the armour to break through enemy lines.
-'''''Hill country'''''<br>
+'''Hill country'''
 This is the type of terrain that this tank excels in. The average range of engagements allows for both the armour and gun to shine. This type of terrain also makes flanking hard, since going over a hill exposes a tank to fire from multiple directions. Even with this, don't forget to check your surroundings. Here are some tips and tactics for fighting in this environment:
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 * Check your surroundings - while it is dangerous to go over hills, many newer player will attempt to do this and will sometimes manage to flank the tank.
-'''''Long range'''''<br>
+'''Long range'''
 This tank does not excel here due to the low penetration of the gun. However, the armour of this tank makes it almost invulnerable to enemy fire at long ranges. Due to this, it is possible to safely attack enemies with little fear of penetrating return fire. Just remember to properly angle the tank in order to maximize its armour. While long range combat is not the best option for this tank, it can use its armour to sit in positions that no other tank could do safely. When using this tank from long range, the first piece of advice would be to close in on the enemy, though this is sometimes not possible. When one finds that long-range combat is necessary or is a preferred strategy, one can place this tank in a highly visible position to draw enemy fire. This will allow teammates to find the enemy and eliminate them. This will also allow for one to choose their target, since its gun necessitates shooting at weakly armoured targets or the sides and rear of tanks.
-'''''Medium range'''''<br>
+'''Medium range'''
 This tank excels in medium range combat due to great armour. Many tanks it faces will find penetrating this tank almost impossible even from the side due to the additional armour.
-'''''Close range'''''<br>
+'''Close range'''
 This tank does not excel here due to bad mobility, and the greatest strength of this tank, its great armour, is no longer as potent.
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=heavy_tank&vehicle=germ_kv_1B_finland Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_kv_1B_finland Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[KV-1 (Family)]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
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