KV-1 (L-11) - Revision history

U38088265: U38088265 moved page AMX 1 (F-11) to KV-1 (L-11) over a redirect without leaving a redirect: revert

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U38088265 moved page AMX 1 (F-11) to KV-1 (L-11) over a redirect without leaving a redirect: revert

U150811717: U150811717 moved page KV-1 (L-11) to AMX 1 (F-11)

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U150811717 moved page KV-1 (L-11) to AMX 1 (F-11)

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U44629479: Undo revision 166859 by U12423867 (talk)

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U12423867: /* Ammo racks */ The table and to my embarrassment in a second edit, "Turret empty".

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‎Ammo racks: The table and to my embarrassment in a second edit, "Turret empty".

U12423867: /* Ammo racks */ Table

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‎Ammo racks: Table

U38088265: Reverted edits by U141685769 (talk) to last revision by U38088265

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Reverted edits by U141685769 (talk) to last revision by U38088265

U141685769: /* Main armament */

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‎Main armament

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 Even so, the huge side and rear armour is flat, and so an enemy that pounces on the {{PAGENAME}} from these flanks will be able to penetrate if these side plates are not angled to account for the enemy. The front armour is also a huge target to hit, but is helped by a large 72 degree sloped plate that is basically invulnerable to most shots due to its effective thickness and ricochet chances. Penetrating through the lower front glacis will knock out the driver and machine gunner (though APHE shells may detonate the huge hull ammo rack behind them as well), but aiming for the upper front plate can reliably destroy the {{PAGENAME}} in one-hit. Fortunately for {{PAGENAME}} drivers, this upper plate has a driver vision port and machine gun ball mount present, which often ricochet most shells that hit there; though these features should not be relied upon for protection against enemy fire.
-{{PAGENAME}}
+{{PAGENAME}} players should take care to not have an armour plate face perpendicularly towards the enemy and be constantly adjusting their hull angle to give their armour plates the extra edge needed to bounce an incoming round. When engaging target, don't keep the turret facing them too long or they will use the opportunity to poke through the turret front armour.
 '''Armour type:'''
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 ! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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-| Hull || 75 mm (31°) ''Front plate'' <br> 70 mm (72°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25 + 70 mm (7-71°) ''Joint plate'' <br> 75 mm (26-51°) ''Lower glacis'' || 75 mm || 60 mm (13-89°) ''Top'' <br /> 70 mm (14-57°) ''Bottom'' || 30 mm
+| Hull || 75 mm (31°) ''Front plate'' <br> 70 mm (72°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25 + 70 mm (7-71°) ''Joint plate'' <br> 75 mm (26-51°) ''Lower glacis'' || 75 mm || 60 mm (13-89°) ''Top'' <br> 70 mm (14-57°) ''Bottom'' || 30 mm
 |-
 | Turret || 75 mm (15°) ''Turret front'' <br> 90 mm (1-52°) ''Gun mantlet shield'' <br> 75 mm (15-57°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 75 mm (14-15°) || 75 mm (16°) || 40 mm
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 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-With its heavy weight, the {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility is slow and sluggish compared to medium tanks of the era. However, the machine is still quite manoueverable, and has good acceleration to get to its maximum forward speed quickly. While getting from one point to another can take a bit longer than the other tanks, the {{PAGENAME}} can navigate around rough terrain and tight corners while adjusting its own momentum quite comfortably whether the vehicle's status is stock or spaded.
+With its heavy weight, the {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility is slow and sluggish compared to medium tanks of the era. However, the machine is still quite manoeuevrable, and has good acceleration to get to its maximum forward speed quickly. While getting from one point to another can take a bit longer than the other tanks, the {{PAGENAME}} can navigate around rough terrain and tight corners while adjusting its own momentum quite comfortably whether the vehicle's status is stock or spaded.
 {{tankMobility|abMinHp= 775|rbMinHp= 531}}
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 {{Specs-Economy}}
-As usual, "Parts" and "FPE" first. "Tracks" is a good additional choice, a frequently targeted module. Also, it increases your turning capability a lot.  After these, research "Adjustment of fire" and "Brake System", because the accuracy of the L-11 cannon is slightly increased, even though it is still subpar. The suspension is useful for firing on the move, something particularly useless for a slow, heavy tank. Braking quickly and being able to fire a more accurate shot proves to be much more efficient. The BR-350SP does not see any use. The small gain in penetration is offset by the lack of any HE filler, and the round should be ignored entirely. Afterwards, all Tier III & Tier IV upgrades are equally useful.
+As usual, "Parts" and "FPE" first. "Tracks" is a good additional choice, a frequently targeted module. Also, it increases your turning capability a lot. After these, research "Adjustment of fire" and "Brake System", because the accuracy of the L-11 cannon is slightly increased, even though it is still subpar. The suspension is useful for firing on the move, something particularly useless for a slow, heavy tank. Braking quickly and being able to fire a more accurate shot proves to be much more efficient. The BR-350SP does not see any use. The small gain in penetration is offset by the lack of any HE filler, and the round should be ignored entirely. Afterwards, all Tier III & Tier IV upgrades are equally useful.
 == Armaments ==
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 The first thing to know about the tank, just because it's a heavy tank does not mean you should charge headfirst into the enemy. While it may look intimidating as you watch the enemy's shells deflect off your vehicle as you move slightly forward to their front lines, you risk getting flanked as moving forward gives the enemy enough space to get around and hit you in the vulnerable rear area. Try to avoid letting the enemy get close enough to catch your turret ring and destroy each of your crew from there. Thankfully, the turret ring is quite a small target, and will be difficult to hit from far away. Despite the 75 mm all-around armour, don't think for a second that you are invulnerable and play smart still. Also, angling is quite important, as many of the Axis long-barreled 75 mm will penetrate you.
-Make sure that you have a few teammates that are with you when playing the KV-1, as your gun will struggle to penetrate common foes such as the [[M4|M4 Sherman]] and the [[T-34]] frontally. With only 78mm of penetration at point-blank, it is necessary to aim for your opponents' weak spots. However, the post-penetration damage is amazing, and a shot that penetrates will most likely kill the enemy.
+Make sure that you have a few teammates that are with you when playing the KV-1, as your gun will struggle to penetrate common foes such as the [[M4|M4 Sherman]] and the [[T-34]] frontally. With only 78 mm of penetration at point-blank, it is necessary to aim for your opponents' weak spots. However, the post-penetration damage is amazing, and a shot that penetrates will most likely kill the enemy.
 One of the more common and dangerous enemies this vehicle will face is the [[Pz.IV F2]]. The Panzer IV F2 has thin armour, but the long [[KwK40 L43 (75 mm)|75 mm]] cannon can easily pierce the KV-1 armour if it is not angled properly. The penetration for the PzGr 39 Shell, which is an APCBC and the stock shell for the Panzer IV F2, at normal combat ranges of 100 m and 500 m has 133 mm and 121 mm respectively. Another dangerous enemy is the [[StuG III F]]. It has the same 75 mm as the Panzer IV F2, but lacks a turret, making it harder to hit. Also, it is more well armoured compared to the Panzer IV F2, and has some sloped armour plates in the front. Try to hit the two non-sloped spots near the driver and the machine gunner, or flank around and hit their weak side armour.
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 [[File:KV-1_M1939.jpg|x300px|right|thumb|none|The KV-1 mod. 1939 with a L-11 gun installed.]]
 ===Combat usage===
-When Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the Red Army had 508 of the KV tanks. With that many KV tanks available, the Russians shocked the German forces as their anti-tank and tank forces had few weapons capable of defeating it, having to rely mostly on the 88 mm Flak guns and the 5 cm Pak 38 with APCR rounds. But by 1942, Germany fielded large amounts of long barreled 50 mm and 75 mm cannons in both tanks and towed format, making the KV lose much of its armour advantage.
+When Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the Red Army had 508 of the KV tanks. With that many KV tanks available, the Soviets shocked the German forces as their anti-tank and tank forces had few weapons capable of defeating it, having to rely mostly on the 88 mm Flak guns and the 5 cm Pak 38 with APCR rounds. But by 1942, Germany fielded large amounts of long barreled 50 mm and 75 mm cannons in both tanks and towed format, making the KV lose much of its armour advantage.
 Perhaps the most memorable moment of glory for the KV-1 was at Krasnogvardeysk near Leningrad on the 19th of August 1941 when 5 KV-1s, led by Lt Zinoviy Kolobanov, ambushed the German 8th Panzer Division (a light panzer division consisting mainly of Panzer II, III and 38(t)). But there are some contradicting stories about what happened, and even if it indeed did happen. One story that supports the claim goes like this: each of the five KV-1s was hiding at different locations, came out one by one to fire at the incoming German tanks, then retreat before the next tank could come out. Such tactic boxed an entire tank and ended with 43 tanks destroyed before the KV-1 tanks retreated from running out of ammo, all in a span of about half an hour. During this battle, one of the KV-1 tanks was struck 135 times with no penetration. For their feat, Lt Z. Kolobanov and a few officers were decorated with the Order of Lenin and Order of the Red Banner medal.

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 ! 4th<br>rack empty
 ! Visual<br>discrepancy
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-| '''111''' || 107&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 79&nbsp;''(+32)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+110)'' || No
+| '''111''' || 106&nbsp;''(+5)'' || 101&nbsp;''(+10)'' || 78&nbsp;''(+33)'' || 0&nbsp;''(+111)'' || No
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 * Racks are modelled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
-* Turret empty: 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' shells.
+* Turret empty: 101&nbsp;''(+10)'' shells.
 === Machine guns ===

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 * Racks are modelled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
-* Turret empty: 101&nbsp;''(+10)'' shells.
+* Turret empty: 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' shells.
 === Machine guns ===

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 Even so, the huge side and rear armour is flat, and so an enemy that pounces on the {{PAGENAME}} from these flanks will be able to penetrate if these side plates are not angled to account for the enemy. The front armour is also a huge target to hit, but is helped by a large 72 degree sloped plate that is basically invulnerable to most shots due to its effective thickness and ricochet chances. Penetrating through the lower front glacis will knock out the driver and machine gunner (though APHE shells may detonate the huge hull ammo rack behind them as well), but aiming for the upper front plate can reliably destroy the {{PAGENAME}} in one-hit. Fortunately for {{PAGENAME}} drivers, this upper plate has a driver vision port and machine gun ball mount present, which often ricochet most shells that hit there; though these features should not be relied upon for protection against enemy fire.
-{{PAGENAME}} players should take care to not have an armour plate face perpendicularly towards the enemy and be constantly adjusting their hull angle to give their armour plates the extra edge needed to bounce an incoming round. When engaging target, don't keep the turret facing them too long or they will use the opportunity to poke through the turret front armour.
+{{PAGENAME}}
 '''Armour type:'''
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 ==== Ammunition ====
 The available ammunition allows for engaging all types of targets:
 * '''BR-350A (MD-5 fuze)''': APHEBC; a shell with high explosive mass that will knock out any tank with a single shot but has an average penetration power.
 * '''BR-350SP''': APBC; a solid shot with a better penetration but no explosive filler.
 * '''OF-350M''': HE; useful for destroying open and lightly armoured vehicles.
-* '''Sh-354T''': Shrapnel; useful against vehicles that are resistant to the HE shells but too thinly armoured to trigger the fuzes of AP shells.
+* '''Sh-354T''': Shrapnel; useful against vehicles that are resistant to HE shells but too thinly armoured to trigger the fuses of AP shells.
 {{:L-11 (76 mm)/Ammunition|BR-350A (MD-5 fuze), BR-350SP, OF-350M, Sh-354T}}
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 ! Visual<br>discrepancy
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-| '''111''' || 106&nbsp;''(+5)'' || 101&nbsp;''(+10)'' || 78&nbsp;''(+33)'' || 0&nbsp;''(+111)'' || No
+| '''111''' || 107&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 102&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 79&nbsp;''(+32)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+110)'' || No
 |-
 |}
 '''Notes''':
-* Racks are modeled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
+* Racks are modelled by sets of 5 shells (+ 1 set of 3 & 2 sets of 4) and sets disappear from the rack once all shells in the set have been loaded/fired.
 * Turret empty: 101&nbsp;''(+10)'' shells.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_kv_1_L_11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[MK-II "Matilda" (USSR)]]
 * [[Churchill III]]

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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 111 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+25° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 9.7 || 13.4 || 16.3 || 18.1 || 19.2 || rowspan="2" | 8.2 || rowspan="2" | 8.17 || rowspan="2" | 7.53 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
+| rowspan="2" | 111 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+25° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 9.7 || 13.4 || 16.3 || 18.1 || 19.2 || rowspan="2" | 9.23 || rowspan="2" | 8.17 || rowspan="2" | 7.53 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
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 ! ''Realistic''