KPz-70 - Revision history

U65862255: /* Modifications and economy */

2024-09-12T10:10:36Z

‎Modifications and economy

U44629479: Edits

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Edits

U103691029: add ATGM reloading rate

2024-04-19T01:58:56Z

add ATGM reloading rate

U103691029: /* Main armament */ Autoloader

2024-04-17T02:10:57Z

‎Main armament: Autoloader

U28580205: /* Description */ Updated to new format

2024-02-25T20:17:36Z

‎Description: Updated to new format

U44629479: /* Media */ Added video

2023-07-20T06:49:31Z

‎Media: Added video

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-02-04T14:47:19Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U20043873 at 00:47, 17 June 2022

2022-06-17T00:47:40Z

U44629479: Edits

2021-12-16T18:06:26Z

Edits

U8359201: /* Pros and cons */ Added some pros and cons

2021-12-16T11:53:10Z

‎Pros and cons: Added some pros and cons

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 {{Specs-Economy}}
-The recommended research order of modules is Parts, FPE, the XM578E1 APFSDS shell, NVD, mobility modifications, and then any remaining modules.
+The recommended research order of modules is Parts, XM578E1 APFSDS shell, FPE, Smoke grenade then Lazer rangefinder, all of these essential modules will give you enough features to meet your needs in combat. Lastly finish with NVD, mobility modifications, and then any remaining modules.
 == Armaments ==

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-! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate rounds (seconds) || Reloading rate ATGM (seconds)
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 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
-!Autoloader
+! Autoloader !! Autoloader
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 ! ''Arcade''

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 ! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
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 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 !Autoloader
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 ! ''Arcade''
 | rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 34.3 || 47.4 || 57.6 || 63.7 || 67.8 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
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 ! ''Realistic''
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 The most important feature that makes a tank is the cannon. In this department, the KPz-70 is no slouch. The 152 mm gun launcher system (the same one used on the [[M551|M551 Sheridan]]), but with a longer barrel and is capable of firing a variety of munition types including an experimental APFSDS round, a traditional HEAT round (with high penetration), an experimental smoke round, and lastly the very capable and proven MGM-51C Shillelagh. This wide range of munition choices gives the operator a variety of options in a pre-combat configuration which can greatly either hinder or enhance the tankers capability on the battlefield. The benefit of a longer barrel compared to its Sheridan counterpart ensures the KPz-70 is much more accurate at range and that the rounds leave the barrel at higher velocities thus increasing their overall damage-dealing capabilities. Additionally, the 152 mm gun launcher gets equipped with an autoloader, greatly reducing its time between follow-up shots on a target.

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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-! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[XM150E5 (152 mm)|152 mm XM150E5]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
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 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
-! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
+!Autoloader
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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 34.3 || 47.4 || 57.6 || 63.7 || 67.8 || rowspan="2" | 6.00 || rowspan="2" | 6.00 || rowspan="2" | 6.00 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
+| rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 34.3 || 47.4 || 57.6 || 63.7 || 67.8 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
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 ! ''Realistic''

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].
+In August 1963, an agreement was signed between the United States and the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) to cooperate on the development of a new main battle tank for both militaries. The tank, designated in the United States as the [[MBT-70]] and in Germany as the [[KPz-70]], was to be produced by General Motors in the US and by Deutsche Entwicklungsgesellschaft (DEG) in Germany. As part of the design process, the differentiating factor between the tank and their manufactured location was the allowance for Germany to utilize their own domestic systems in the installed components, though some German-designed components saw use in the American design as well. However, conflicts in the design requirements and expectations of the vehicles led to constant strife and delays, such as Germany's preference for a high-velocity tank cannon over the Shillelagh gun/launcher the Americans wanted to pursue. As development continued, the program came under review due to new complications regarding weight, and after the review in January 1970 determined the additional design and engineering changes would result in a higher program cost and unit price cost, it was decided that to terminate the joint program, allowing Germany and US to continue their design on their own. Free from needing to compromise with American needs, Germany took the experience and components gained from the MBT-70/KPz-70 development and placed them towards their next-generation tank design, which would become the Leopard 2.
 == General info ==

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|ly9JS6errQQ|'''Best secondary armaments''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 6:03 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|PosWOnOGkSo|'''Best experimental vehicles''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 5:27 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|uQCn8UpVtDc|'''MBT-70: Tank from the Future''' - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|ly9JS6errQQ|'''Best secondary armaments''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 6:03 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|PosWOnOGkSo|'''Best experimental vehicles''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 5:27 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}
 == See also ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:XM150E5 (152 mm)/Ammunition|XM578E1, M409A1, XM410E1, MGM-51C}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 * [[wt:en/news/4923-gamescom-kpz-70-mbt-70-a-warrior-of-two-armies-en|[Devblog] KPz-70 & MBT-70 - A Warrior of Two Armies]]
 {{Germany medium tanks}}
 [[Category:ATGM vehicles]]

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 With the proper position or speed, try getting around the KPz-70 and engaging him from where it does not expect. It's important to remember the KPz-70 has the ability to quickly snap the turret around and engage any enemy, so surprising the tank is of the up-most central importance to come out victorious.
-Another weakness that can be exploited is its speed. Because of its speed, unskilled players or players unfamiliar with its play style will often rush into situations they are not equipped to fight properly and find themselves overwhelmed, allowing a prepared defence to eliminate them.
+Another weakness that can be exploited is its speed. Because of its speed, unskilled players or players unfamiliar with its playstyle will often rush into situations they are not equipped to fight properly and find themselves overwhelmed, allowing a prepared defence to eliminate them.
 One last weak spot worth mentioning is the turret ring. High penetrating munitions can completely pierce this section and travel into the crew compartment. SABOT rounds are especially effective at this. Any tank or SPAA with fast firing 30+ mm gun can penetrate it easily.
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-The tank plays very much like the [[Leopard A1A1|Leopard A1A1]]. Players familiar with the Leopard play style will easily adapt to the KPz-70. It has reasonable mobility, especially with full upgrades and aced crew, allowing it to manoeuvre into spots not typically accessible by less mobile tanks. Utilize this to an advantage to set up ambushes as this is how the KPz-70 will get the best of many opponents. It's important to recognize when engagement is not beneficial so that the tank may get a better position or escape from the threat.
+The tank plays very much like the [[Leopard A1A1]]. Players familiar with the Leopard playstyle will easily adapt to the KPz-70. It has reasonable mobility, especially with full upgrades and aced crew, allowing it to manoeuvre into spots not typically accessible by less mobile tanks. Utilize this to an advantage to set up ambushes as this is how the KPz-70 will get the best of many opponents. It's important to recognize when engagement is not beneficial so that the tank may get a better position or escape from the threat.
 Despite the initial appearance of strong frontal armour, it's important to remember when compared to its counterparts at its rank, it is not nearly enough to defeat threats head-on such as the [[T-64A (1971)|T-64A]]. Even ATGM from missile vehicles such as the [[RakJPz 2 (HOT)|Raketenjagdpanzer 2 HOT]] will penetrate the turret and upper glacis plate. Even other Rank V tanks can and will penetrate from the front. Because of the rather condensed placement of crew and ammunition, the KPz-70 will most likely be destroyed. Because of this, it is critical that the KPz-70 gets the first shot off in engagement and ensure it is either eliminated or crippled to such a capacity they either cannot engage or will instinctively panic and try to run to repair or determine the engagement location.
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 The KPz-70 can also quickly capture objective points and when used properly hold positions so long as it does not stay in any one place too long.
-Scoot and shoot tactics will benefit the KPz-70 play style as well as terrain masking techniques.
+Scoot and shoot tactics will benefit the KPz-70 playstyle as well as terrain masking techniques.
 Should the tank have to fight in closer engagement ranges or in close quarters, it's critical to always remember the armour will not protect the tank reliably. However, the speed, fast-rotating turret, and manoeuvrability will. Provided the player utilizes these to their advantage, the KPz-70 will be able to control the fight. Recognize when the enemy is baiting the tank into an ambush and avoid them as the KPz-70 doesn't stand a great chance of conducting a counter-ambush due to the weak armour.
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 * Fast reload at 6 seconds with autoloader
 * Great gun, with access to various types of ammunition, ATGMs included
-* 20 mm autocannon anti-aircraft gun mounted on the top of the tank
+* 20 mm anti-aircraft autocannon on the top of the tank will shred apart any aircraft, especially helicopters
 * Low profile for visibility
 * Armor may be reliable against chemical shells
-* Missile has a very short fuel time (about 2 secs), after engine is off it's almost impossible to spot until it is too close, as it leaves no smoke trail like TOW, or a small red spot like Shturm. It looks like a slow cannon shell.
+* The missile has a very short propulsion phase (about 2 secs), after its engine shuts off it's almost impossible to spot until it is too close, as it leaves no smoke trail like a TOW, or a small red spot like Shturm. It looks like a slow cannon shell.
 * Has a hydropneumatic suspension system
 * The fuel tanks in the hull can absorb HEATFS shells
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 * Unimpressive frontal plate armour, the turret ring is also exposed, allowing SPAA and light tanks to destroy it frontally
 * Vulnerable to the rear, if the hydropneumatic suspension is not used
 * Optics are vulnerable and can cause ATGMs and HE to explode downwards into the crew compartment
 * Very easy to one shot because of 3 crew cramped in the turret