Ju 87 D-5 - Revision history

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Pros and Cons had repeated informations. Usage in Battles had inaccurate information regarding the plane not being suited for performing bombing duties.

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 * 2 x 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns (1,500 rpg = 3,000 total)
 * 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons (400 rpg = 800 total)

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 * 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
 * 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb + 2 x 250 kg SC250JA bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 3 x Flam C 250 incendiary bombs
 * 3 x Flam C 500 incendiary bombs

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
-* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
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-* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb + 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (450 kg total)
+|-
 * 3 x 250 kg SC250JA bombs (750 kg total)
 * 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
 * 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb + 2 x 250 kg SC250JA bombs (1,000 kg total)
 * 3 x Flam C 250 incendiary bombs
 * 3 x Flam C 500 incendiary bombs
 The suspended 12 x 7.92 mm deals with enemy aircraft pretty well, though runs out of ammo quickly. It is most suited for beginners since the tracers are more visible. The suspended 4 x 20 mm cannons are good at downing bombers and fighters but they impact negatively the flight performance of the D-5 considerably more than the 12 x 7.92 mm gunpods.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German dive bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
-The last in the in-game series of dive-bombing Ju 87 aircraft, the {{PAGENAME}} shows the transition between the Ju 87's original dive-bombing role to [[Ju 87 G-1|cannon ground-attack]]. With its wing guns switched out to 20 mm cannon armaments, as well as a diverse suspended armament options, the {{PAGENAME}} can allow players to choose different ways to attack ground targets when in a match to ensure that players get the most fun out of this plane as possible.
+The last in the in-game series of dive-bombing Ju 87 aircraft, the {{PAGENAME}} shows the transition between the Ju 87's original dive-bombing role to [[Ju 87 G-1|cannon ground-attack]]. With its wing guns switched out to 20 mm cannon armaments, as well as a diverse suspended armament options, the {{PAGENAME}} can allow players to choose different ways to attack ground targets when in a match.
 == General info ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German dive bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
-The last in the in-game series of dive-bombing Ju 87 aircraft, the {{PAGENAME}} shows the transition between the Ju 87's original dive-bombing role to [[Ju 87 G-1|cannon ground-attack]]. With its wing guns switched out to 20 mm cannon armaments, as well as a diverse suspended armament options, the {{PAGENAME}} can allow players to choose different ways to attack ground targets when in a match.
+The last in the in-game series of dive-bombing Ju 87 aircraft, the {{PAGENAME}} shows the transition between the Ju 87's original dive-bombing role to [[Ju 87 G-1|cannon ground-attack]]. With its wing guns switched out to 20 mm cannon armaments, as well as a diverse suspended armament options, the {{PAGENAME}} can allow players to choose different ways to attack ground targets when in a match to ensure that players get the most fun out of this plane as possible.
 == General info ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-Ju 87 D series are mainly adapted for ground attack roles. The D-5 variant has two 20 mm MG 151 cannons which are suitable for attacking light-medium tanks. In addition in the research tree, you can get additional WB 151 (4 x MG 151 cannons) or the WB 81B (12 x MG 81 machine guns) gun pods.
+Ju 87 series are mainly adapted for ground attack roles. The D-5 variant has two 20 mm MG 151 cannons which are suitable for attacking light-medium tanks. In addition in the research tree, you can get additional WB 151 (4 x MG 151 cannons) or the WB 81B (12 x MG 81 machine guns) gun pods.
-The Ju 87 D-5 should not be used as a bomber since its maximum bombload of 2 x 250 kg and 1 x 500 kg does not hold up at its BR. It is excellent for ground strikes however, both with the 7.92 mm machine guns and the 20 mm cannons. The 20 mm is recommended because the 7.92 mm runs out of ammo fairly fast. The best use of the Ju 87 D-5 is bomber hunting. It spawns at the bomber altitude of 3,000-3,500 m (10,000-12,000 ft). One burst of the 20 mm cannons, especially with the suspended armaments and while using the air targets belt, is enough to destroy a bomber and even fighters.
+The Ju 87 D-5 is excellent for ground strikes. It can be equipped with bombs, incendiary bombs (although these are only useful against targets with exposed crews like certain SPAAs or vehicles like the [[YaG-10 (29-K)]]), 7.92 mm machine guns and 20 mm cannons. The 20 mm is recommended because the 7.92 mm runs out of ammo fairly fast.
 If you decide to play the role of a fighter instead of the historic role of the attacker, it is recommended that you climb to around 5,500 m, which you should easily be able to do before reaching your enemies at the halfway point. As noted in the flight performance, staying at speeds greater than 400 km/h can lock up the control surfaces, meaning dogfighting at high speed is not in the plane's favour. Get the enemy to bleed speed to the more favourable 300 km/h-range, at which you will be able to outturn them.
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Has two MG 151 20 mm cannons which are decent for taking out aircraft after unlocking air target belts
+* Has two MG 151 20 mm cannons which are decent for taking out aircraft after unlocking air target belts;
-* Large ammo reserve for its armament, equating to 1,000 rounds between each MG 151/20 cannon
+* Large ammo reserve for its armament, equating to 1,000 rounds between each MG 151/20 cannon;
-* Can equip either 20 mm WB 151 or 7.92 mm WB 81B gun pods below the wing, increasing armament size by four 20 mm MG 151/20 or twelve 7.92 mm MG 81 for frontal firepower
+* Can equip either 20 mm WB 151 or 7.92 mm WB 81B gun pods below the wing, increasing armament size by four 20 mm MG 151/20 or twelve 7.92 mm MG 81 for frontal firepower;
 * Tail gun has one of the best rates of fire in-game and covers a generous portion of the aircraft's rear
-* Decent bomb loads
+* Decent bomb loads;
-* Great manoeuvrability at lower speeds, can turn on a dime at a high speed
+* Great manoeuvrability at lower speeds, can turn on a dime at a high speed;
-* Pilot and gunner are protected with all-around armour
+* Pilot and gunner are protected with all-around armour;
-* Has air brakes
+* Very efficient radiator;
-* Very efficient radiator
+* Tolerant flaps;
-* Tolerant flaps
+* Air start in most RB maps.
 '''Cons:'''
-* Maximum bomb load is lower than the D-3
+* Low roll rate when not using the rudder;
-* Low roll rate when not using the rudder
+* Slow, has a poor climb rate and loses energy quite easily, especially in turns;
-* Slow, and loses energy quite easily, especially in turns
+* Overheats easily with WEP, use of WEP is not advised until in combat;
-* Takes some time to climb
+* High Parasite drag, imposed by the wheel spats;
-* Overheats easily with WEP, use of WEP is not advised until in combat
+* Control stiffening (lock-up) is severe at moderate to high speeds (hence why you should use the air brakes during dives);
-* High Parasite drag, imposed by the wheel spats
+* Very Low Wing-Lift Co-efficient making the aircraft highly susceptible to stalling;
-* Control stiffening (lock-up) is severe at moderate to high speeds
+* Radiator is damaged easily by enemy fire;
-* Very Low Wing-Lift Co-efficient making the aircraft highly susceptible to stalling
+* Poor rate of climb.
 == History ==
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ju-87d-5 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 {{main|SC50JA (50 kg)|SC250JA (250 kg)|SC500K (500 kg)|MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 81 (7.92 mm)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 12 x 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns, wing-mounted (gunpods) (250 rpg = 3,000 total)
 * 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (gunpods) (200 rpg = 800 total)
 The suspended 12 x 7.92 mm deals with enemy aircraft pretty well, though runs out of ammo quickly. It is most suited for beginners since the tracers are more visible. The suspended 4 x 20 mm cannons are good at downing bombers and fighters but they impact negatively the flight performance of the D-5 considerably more than the 12 x 7.92 mm gunpods.

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-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 In early 1943, a new variant of the Stuka, the Ju 87D-5, was launched into full-scale production. The D-5 variant was originally conceived of as a ground-attack aircraft, as opposed to the previous D-3 version, for which ground attacks were thought to be only one of its possible combat uses.
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 The Ju 87 D-5 was the last variant of the Stuka whose full-scale production was significant. This variant was manufactured until the Stuka's production was discontinued in the late summer of 1944. A total of 1,190 aircraft were produced. A simplified variant of the D-5, named the D-6, was developed but never entered full-scale production.
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 The Ju 87 D-5 is not as fast as most, if not all the fighters at its battle rating, but it is surprisingly manoeuvrable at low speeds compared to them.
-Since this plane typically gets an air start in RB at around 3,500 meters, gaining altitude is generally not a major problem at the beginning of matches on this plane. Be careful though, as if the D-5 reaches speed of anything above 450 km/h, it will start to get extreme lock-ups in the horizontal axis and slightly less in the vertical. However, staying around the 300 km/h can have the D-5 be able to out-manoeuvre opponents.
+Since this plane typically gets an air start in RB at around 3,500 m, gaining altitude is generally not a major problem at the beginning of matches on this plane. Be careful though, as if the D-5 reaches speed of anything above 450 km/h, it will start to get extreme lock-ups in the horizontal axis and slightly less in the vertical. However, staying around the 300 km/h can have the D-5 be able to out-manoeuvre opponents.
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-* 4mm steel surrounding the crew
+* 4 mm steel surrounding the crew
-* 4mm steel underneath the engine
+* 4 mm steel underneath the engine
-* 4mm steel in front of the gunner
+* 4 mm steel in front of the gunner
-* 8mm steel behind the pilot
+* 8 mm steel behind the pilot
-* 8mm steel headrest
+* 8 mm steel headrest
-* 50mm bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
+* 50 mm bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
 * Self-sealing fuel tanks in the wings
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 The Ju 87 D-5 should not be used as a bomber since its maximum bombload of 2 x 250 kg and 1 x 500 kg does not hold up at its BR. It is excellent for ground strikes however, both with the 7.92 mm machine guns and the 20 mm cannons. The 20 mm is recommended because the 7.92 mm runs out of ammo fairly fast. The best use of the Ju 87 D-5 is bomber hunting. It spawns at the bomber altitude of 3,000-3,500 m (10,000-12,000 ft). One burst of the 20 mm cannons, especially with the suspended armaments and while using the air targets belt, is enough to destroy a bomber and even fighters.
-If you decide to play the role of a fighter instead of the historic role of the attacker, it is recommended that you climb to around 5,500 meters, which you should easily be able to do before reaching your enemies at the halfway point. As noted in the flight performance, staying at speeds greater than 400 km/h can lock up the control surfaces, meaning dogfighting at high speed is not in the plane's favour. Get the enemy to bleed speed to the more favourable 300 km/h-range, at which you will be able to outturn them.
+If you decide to play the role of a fighter instead of the historic role of the attacker, it is recommended that you climb to around 5,500 m, which you should easily be able to do before reaching your enemies at the halfway point. As noted in the flight performance, staying at speeds greater than 400 km/h can lock up the control surfaces, meaning dogfighting at high speed is not in the plane's favour. Get the enemy to bleed speed to the more favourable 300 km/h-range, at which you will be able to outturn them.
 Stock ammo belts are pretty bad, so try to get air target belts ASAP. Armoured target ammo is not able to take out medium tanks (unlike air target ammo, which can take out medium tanks on some select maps), and it is less effective against aircraft.
-With the additional 20 mm cannons in the suspended armaments, the Ju 87 D-5 becomes a worthy opponent in head-ons. With this loadout, one should make sure not to be caught at less than 350 km/h. At speeds higher than this, the D-5 can still manage to do a quick turn around to lay the guns on a target from nearly every angle. The gun pods damage the roll rate quite significantly, so heavy use of the rudder is recommended. Pilots more experienced with aiming MG 151s might benefit from using stealth belts, as they make enemies less likely to take evasive action, consequently saving precious speed as you no longer have to maneuver to stay on target.
+With the additional 20 mm cannons in the suspended armaments, the Ju 87 D-5 becomes a worthy opponent in head-ons. With this loadout, one should make sure not to be caught at less than 350 km/h. At speeds higher than this, the D-5 can still manage to do a quick turn around to lay the guns on a target from nearly every angle. The gun pods damage the roll rate quite significantly, so heavy use of the rudder is recommended. Pilots more experienced with aiming MG 151s might benefit from using stealth belts, as they make enemies less likely to take evasive action, consequently saving precious speed as you no longer have to manoeuvre to stay on target.
 Because of their low speed, non-retractable landing gear and reasonable durability, all the Ju 87 series are quite good for capturing airfields in the Airfield Domination mode.
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 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
-[[Yak-2 KABB]]: Do not think that the {{PAGENAME}} can confidently out maneuver this plane just because it is twin-engined. The Yak-2 has an amazing turn rate for a heavy fighter, thus the {{PAGENAME}} must avoid turning with it, if not dogfighting with it in general. It bears a pair of ShVAK cannons that can easily damage vital parts like engine or cooling systems. It has green camo, greatly resembling an Me 410 but with an H-tail like a Bf 110's.
+[[Yak-2 KABB]] - Do not think that the {{PAGENAME}} can confidently outmanoeuvre this plane just because it is twin-engined. The Yak-2 has an amazing turn rate for a heavy fighter, thus the {{PAGENAME}} must avoid turning with it, if not dogfighting with it in general. It bears a pair of ShVAK cannons that can easily damage vital parts like engine or cooling systems. It has green camouflage, greatly resembling an Me 410 but with an H-tail like a Bf 110's.
-[[ZSD63]]: A dangerous SPAA to go up against in Tank Realistic Battles. Though it is hard to identify specific SPAA vehicles on the ground (especially when they are shooting tracers at the plane), if a ZSD63 is identified, avoid it at all costs and '''do not''' attempt head-ons with it, ever. It can easily snap a wing off by casually putting a short burst in the {{PAGENAME}}'s flight path. Don't even get close to it unless it is busy shooting someone else or if the {{PAGENAME}} has a bomb ready for use. The numerous MGs / cannons on the {{PAGENAME}} cannot effectively damage it as its hull is overall quite empty, causing your shells to do little to no damage. Some identifying features of the ZSD63 is its rather boxy and tall hull with a geometric turret sitting at the back, slightly similar to a Wirbelwind's. The firing manner is also distinctive: the sound and green tracers are very rapid, much like a buzz saw, but then it will remain silent for half a minute reloading. Note that an experienced ZSD player will hold its fire or shoot in single salvos with long halts between, making it look like that it's reloading.
+[[ZSD63]] - A dangerous SPAA to go up against in Tank Realistic Battles. Though it is hard to identify specific SPAA vehicles on the ground (especially when they are shooting tracers at the plane), if a ZSD63 is identified, avoid it at all costs and '''do not''' attempt head-ons with it, ever. It can easily snap a wing off by casually putting a short burst in the {{PAGENAME}}'s flight path. Don't even get close to it unless it is busy shooting someone else or if the {{PAGENAME}} has a bomb ready for use. The numerous MGs / cannons on the {{PAGENAME}} cannot effectively damage it as its hull is overall quite empty, causing your shells to do little to no damage. Some identifying features of the ZSD63 is its rather boxy and tall hull with a geometric turret sitting at the back, slightly similar to a Wirbelwind's. The firing manner is also distinctive: the sound and green tracers are very rapid, much like a buzz saw, but then it will remain silent for half a minute reloading. Note that an experienced ZSD player will hold its fire or shoot in single salvoes with long halts between, making it look like that it's reloading.
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 A system to jettison the main landing gear struts was introduced on the D-5 to enable an emergency landing on uneven terrain.
-As the full-scale production of the D-5 variant continued, a number of changes were introduced to the structure to improve visibility from the cockpit, increase the crew's safety, and make the aircraft easier to pilot at low altitudes. The following were added to the covering of the cockpit canopy: an additional strut in the structure of the side glass panels, an additional direct-vision window in the sliding section of the canopy, and a convex blister over the armored windscreen panel, for mounting the Revi C/12D gunsight.
+As the full-scale production of the D-5 variant continued, a number of changes were introduced to the structure to improve visibility from the cockpit, increase the crew's safety, and make the aircraft easier to pilot at low altitudes. The following were added to the covering of the cockpit canopy: an additional strut in the structure of the side glass panels, an additional direct-vision window in the sliding section of the canopy, and a convex blister over the armoured windscreen panel, for mounting the Revi C/12D gunsight.
 The Ju 87 D-5 was the last variant of the Stuka whose full-scale production was significant. This variant was manufactured until the Stuka's production was discontinued in the late summer of 1944. A total of 1,190 aircraft were produced. A simplified variant of the D-5, named the D-6, was developed but never entered full-scale production.
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=bomber&vehicle=ju-87d-5 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ju-87d-5 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos

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