Jagdtiger - Revision history

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Jagdtiger was the final evolution of German tank destroyers growing progressively heavier and heavily armed over the years - and as any extreme specialization in one field tends to cause, it was very lacking in many other areas, most notably mobility and gearbox reliability. First starting out as a vague requirement to mount a 12.8 cm gun to a self propelled hull in 1942 and then a [[Panther tank (Family)|Panther]] or [[Tiger I (Family)|Tiger 1]] hull in 1943, the vehicle was produced in low quantities from 1944 to 1945 based on the [[Tiger II (Family)|Tiger II]] hull instead. With the frontal armor just as thick as that of the Maus, it was a formidable foe, but as the engine was identical to the 19-ton lighter Tiger II which was already overstressed by its own weight, the 71-ton behemoth was incredibly unreliable and was incredibly sluggish to maneuver, frequently breaking down while trying to crest even a small mound of dirt. Low rate production, the poorly trained crews and its poor reliability meant that the Jagdtiger was overkill for most situations and contributed little to the war effort as a whole.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 186''') was the final evolution of German tank destroyers growing progressively heavier and more heavily armed over the years - and as any extreme specialization in one field tends to cause, it was very lacking in many other areas, most notably mobility and gearbox reliability. First starting out as a vague requirement to mount a 12.8 cm gun to a self-propelled hull in 1942 and then a [[Panther tank (Family)|Panther]] or [[Tiger I (Family)|Tiger 1]] hull in 1943, the vehicle was produced in low quantities from 1944 to 1945 based on the [[Tiger II (Family)|Tiger II]] hull instead. With frontal armour just as thick as that of the Maus, it was a formidable foe, but as the engine was identical to the 19-ton lighter Tiger II which was already overstressed by its own weight, the 71-ton behemoth was incredibly unreliable and was incredibly sluggish to manoeuvre, frequently breaking down while trying to crest even a small mound of dirt. Low production rate, the poorly trained crews, and its poor reliability meant that the Jagdtiger was overkill for most situations and contributed little to the war effort as a whole.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 186''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. The Jagdtiger is best described as 'extreme', both in a good and bad way. On one hand, its frontal armor scheme rivals that of the [[Maus]], a non-trivial feat when you consider the Maus has over 200 mm of raw armor thickness, and its 12.8 cm cannon was if anything overkill against any enemy it saw during the war, with stories of its shells going straight through a building and penetrating a Sherman being well-known. On the other hand, the Jagdtiger is incredibly cumbersome, with a slow acceleration and especially slow turning, most noticeable on inclines. For how large it is it isn't near immobile like similar tank destroyers in its weight class such as the [[T95]] or [[Tortoise]], but it is by no means a mobile vehicle. Due to its lack of a turret and reliance on raw armor, the Jagdtiger fares poorly on urban maps, as they require the Jagdtiger to constantly turn around corners while exposing its much thinner sides constantly. It is also very vulnerable to chemical rounds - while they might not one-shot your vehicle, a chemical round penetrating your vehicle can do so against even the thickest parts of your armor with ease, so one penetration is sure to lead to several more which in turn ''will'' be fatal. As such, the Jagdtiger performs best as a second line supporting vehicle, sniping from long range or holding corridors for your team as opposed to pushing up yourself. This reduces any risk of being pincered or immobilized then flanked, and will also mean enemies will struggle to see you and land an accurate shot on your weakspots.
+Introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41, the Jagdtiger is best described as 'extreme', both in a good and bad way. On one hand, its frontal armour scheme rivals that of the [[Maus]], a non-trivial feat when you consider the Maus has over 200 mm of raw armour thickness, and its 12.8 cm cannon was if anything overkill against any enemy it saw during the war, with stories of its shells going straight through a building and penetrating a Sherman being well-known. On the other hand, the Jagdtiger is incredibly cumbersome, with a slow acceleration and especially slow turning, most noticeable on inclines. For how large it is it isn't near immobile like similar tank destroyers in its weight class such as the [[T95]] or [[Tortoise]], but it is by no means a mobile vehicle. Due to its lack of a turret and reliance on raw armour, the Jagdtiger fares poorly on urban maps, as they require the Jagdtiger to constantly turn around corners while exposing its much thinner sides constantly. It is also very vulnerable to chemical rounds - while they might not one-shot your vehicle, a chemical round penetrating your vehicle can do so against even the thickest parts of your armour with ease, so one penetration is sure to lead to several more which in turn ''will'' be fatal. As such, the Jagdtiger performs best as a second line supporting vehicle, sniping from long range or holding corridors for your team as opposed to pushing up yourself. This reduces any risk of being pincered or immobilized then flanked, and will also mean enemies will struggle to see you and land an accurate shot on your weakspots.
 == General info ==
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-The Jagdtiger sports one of the thickest raw armor plates in the game, at an astounding 250 mm RHA thickness at the front. This is enough to deflect almost any AP or APHE round at range, and only at closer ranges can some APDS rounds pose a threat. However, later APDS rounds which are more akin to APFSDS rounds as well as chemical munitions generally bypass this armor very easily, so caution is necessary around these vehicles.
+The Jagdtiger sports one of the thickest raw armour plates in the game, at an astounding 250 mm RHA thickness at the front. This is enough to deflect almost any AP or APHE round at range, and only at closer ranges can some APDS rounds pose a threat. However, later APDS rounds which are more akin to APFSDS rounds as well as chemical munitions generally bypass this armour very easily, so caution is necessary around these vehicles.
 '''Armour type:'''
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-The Jagdtiger's mobility is fairly poor. While respectable for its size it is still a Tiger 2's engine with an additional 19 tons of armor, which makes accelerating much slower and as a result makes for very poor map traversal. Try and reduce the time spent turning your vehicle, so that you get to advantageous positions faster.
+The Jagdtiger's mobility is fairly poor. While respectable for its size it is still a Tiger 2's engine with an additional 19 tons of armour, which makes accelerating much slower and as a result makes for very poor map traversal. Try and reduce the time spent turning your vehicle, so that you get to advantageous positions faster.
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	The Jagdtiger sports one of the thickest raw armor plates in the game, at an astounding 250 mm RHA thickness at the front. This is enough to deflect almost any AP or APHE round at range, and only at closer ranges can some APDS rounds pose a threat. However, later APDS rounds which are more akin to APFSDS rounds as well as chemical munitions generally bypass this armor very easily, so caution is necessary around these vehicles.		The Jagdtiger sports one of the thickest raw armor plates in the game, at an astounding 250 mm RHA thickness at the front. This is enough to deflect almost any AP or APHE round at range, and only at closer ranges can some APDS rounds pose a threat. However, later APDS rounds which are more akin to APFSDS rounds as well as chemical munitions generally bypass this armor very easily, so caution is necessary around these vehicles.
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		+	'''Armour type:'''
		+
		+	*Rolled homogeneous armour
		+	*Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable"
		+	\|-
		+	! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
		+	\|-
		+	\| Hull \|\| 150 mm (49°) ''Front glacis'' <br /> 100 mm (49°) ''Bottom glacis'' \|\| 80 + 5 mm (26°) \|\| 80 mm (28-29°)\|\| 50 mm
		+	\|-
		+	\| Superstructure \|\| 250 mm (2-28°) \|\| 80 mm (26°) \|\| 80 mm \|\| 45 mm
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	'''Notes:'''
		+
		+	* The frontal armour of the tank is almost impossible to defeat, only the sides and rear are vulnerable.
		+	* The lower glacis is pretty vulnerable, but a hulldown position can circumvent it.
		+	* The superstructure side is covered with tracks, which provides another 30 mm extra armour to the sides.

	=== Mobility ===		=== Mobility ===

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Jagdtiger was the final evolution of German tank destroyers growing progressively heavier and heavily armed over the years - and as any extreme specialization in one field tends to cause, it was very lacking in many other areas, most notably mobility and gearbox reliability. First starting out as a vague requirement to mount a 12.8 cm gun to a [[Panther tank (Family)|Panther]] or [[Tiger 1 (Family)]] in 1942, the vehicle was produced in low quantities from 1944 to 1945. With the frontal armor just as thick as that of the Maus, it was a formidable foe, but as the engine was identical to the 19-ton lighter Tiger II which was already overstressed by its own weight, the 71-ton behemoth was incredibly unreliable and was incredibly sluggish to maneuver, frequently breaking down while trying to crest even a small mound of dirt. Low rate production, the poorly trained crews and its poor reliability meant that the Jagdtiger was overkill for most situations and contributed little to the war effort as a whole.
+The Jagdtiger was the final evolution of German tank destroyers growing progressively heavier and heavily armed over the years - and as any extreme specialization in one field tends to cause, it was very lacking in many other areas, most notably mobility and gearbox reliability. First starting out as a vague requirement to mount a 12.8 cm gun to a self propelled hull in 1942 and then a [[Panther tank (Family)|Panther]] or [[Tiger I (Family)|Tiger 1]] hull in 1943, the vehicle was produced in low quantities from 1944 to 1945 based on the [[Tiger II (Family)|Tiger II]] hull instead. With the frontal armor just as thick as that of the Maus, it was a formidable foe, but as the engine was identical to the 19-ton lighter Tiger II which was already overstressed by its own weight, the 71-ton behemoth was incredibly unreliable and was incredibly sluggish to maneuver, frequently breaking down while trying to crest even a small mound of dirt. Low rate production, the poorly trained crews and its poor reliability meant that the Jagdtiger was overkill for most situations and contributed little to the war effort as a whole.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 186''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 186''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. The Jagdtiger is best described as 'extreme', both in a good and bad way. On one hand, its frontal armor scheme rivals that of the [[Maus]], a non-trivial feat when you consider the Maus has over 200 mm of raw armor thickness, and its 12.8 cm cannon was if anything overkill against any enemy it saw during the war, with stories of its shells going straight through a building and penetrating a Sherman being well-known. On the other hand, the Jagdtiger is incredibly cumbersome, with a slow acceleration and especially slow turning, most noticeable on inclines. For how large it is it isn't near immobile like similar tank destroyers in its weight class such as the [[T95]] or [[Tortoise]], but it is by no means a mobile vehicle. Due to its lack of a turret and reliance on raw armor, the Jagdtiger fares poorly on urban maps, as they require the Jagdtiger to constantly turn around corners while exposing its much thinner sides constantly. It is also very vulnerable to chemical rounds - while they might not one-shot your vehicle, a chemical round penetrating your vehicle can do so against even the thickest parts of your armor with ease, so one penetration is sure to lead to several more which in turn ''will'' be fatal. As such, the Jagdtiger performs best as a second line supporting vehicle, sniping from long range or holding corridors for your team as opposed to pushing up yourself. This reduces any risk of being pincered or immobilized then flanked, and will also mean enemies will struggle to see you and land an accurate shot on your weakspots.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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-*Rolled homogeneous armour
+The Jagdtiger sports one of the thickest raw armor plates in the game, at an astounding 250 mm RHA thickness at the front. This is enough to deflect almost any AP or APHE round at range, and only at closer ranges can some APDS rounds pose a threat. However, later APDS rounds which are more akin to APFSDS rounds as well as chemical munitions generally bypass this armor very easily, so caution is necessary around these vehicles.
 === Mobility ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 186''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41.

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 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
-<!-- '''Last updated:''' -->
+<!-- '''Last updated: 2.27.2.36''' -->
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 |-
 ! Full<br>ammo
-!Ammo part
+! Ammo part
 ! 1st<br>rack empty
 ! 2nd<br>rack empty
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 ! Visual<br>discrepancy
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-| '''40'''
+| '''40''' || Projectiles <br> Propellants || 29&nbsp;''(+11)'' <br> 33&nbsp;''(+7)''  || 15&nbsp;''(+25)'' <br> 27&nbsp;''(+13)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+1)'' <br> 19&nbsp;''(+21)''  || N/A <br> 15&nbsp;''(+25)'' || N/A <br> 11&nbsp;''(+29)'' || N/A <br> 1&nbsp;''(+39)'' || No
 |}
-'''Note''':
+'''Notes''':
 * The {{PAGENAME}} uses two-piece ammunition, composed of propellant bags (orange) and projectiles (yellow). Both have separate racks.
-* Sides empty: 11 ''(+29)'' shells.
+* Projectiles and propellant bags are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
 === Machine guns ===

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:PaK44 (128 mm)/Ammunition|PzGr, Sprgr. L/5, PzGr 43}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|b5Pr_4bff9g|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''|xv9QAXPJVSc|'''Tank Chats #77 - Jagdtiger''' - ''The Tank Museum''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|xv9QAXPJVSc|'''Tank Chats #77 - Jagdtiger''' - ''The Tank Museum''}}
 == See also ==