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== Description ==
The '''J-8''', is a supersonic jet fighter aircraft developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation

==Vehicles==
===Rank VII===

* J-8B

===Rank VIII===

* J-8F

[[Category:Family pages]]

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 {{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Official'''}}空中美男子 <small>(Handsome in Air; by PLAAF and comment of Singaporean pilot )</small>
-{{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Public'''}}八爷 <small>(Grandpa Eight; by Chinese military enthusiasts)</small>空中蔡国庆 <small>([https://mydramalist.com/people/51427-cai-guo-qing Cai Guoqing],a Chinese male actor known for his  attractive appearance)</small>
+{{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Public'''}}八爷 <small>(Grandpa Eight; by Chinese military enthusiasts)</small>空中蔡国庆 <small>([https://mydramalist.com/people/51427-cai-guo-qing Cai Guoqing],a Chinese male actor known for his attractive appearance)</small>
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 Before the 1960s, the Chinese skies were still ruled by imported Soviet jets and their domestically produced (with or without licenses) models: the J-5 through 7. While it was indeed an accomplishment for an agricultural country to manufacture some of the latest jets of the era, these aircraft were still of non-indigenous design. The aspiration of all Mainland Chinese aircraft designers was to create a completely indigenous Chinese jet in terms of overall design. However, this was quite challenging due to a lack of experience.
-The inception of this idea can be traced back to an obsolete yet sufficient design, the '''JJ-1''' '''''歼教-1''''', which was created and built by Factory 112, now known as AVIC Shenyang (or as '''SAC 沈飞''' in most pages in War Thunder Wiki). Inspired by this project, a team of designers led by '''Gu Songfen (顾诵芬)''', a legendary figure in China (member of both the '''CAS''' (''Chinese Academy of Sciences'') and '''CAE''' (''Chinese Academy of Engineering''), awarded the '''Highest Science and Technology Award''' ('''最高科学技术奖)''' in 2020 and the '''Touching China Award''' ('''''感动中国''''') in 2021), would set out on a new venture: what would eventually become the '''J-8''' ('''歼-8'''; NATO reporting name: '''Finback 长须鲸''').
+The inception of this idea can be traced back to an obsolete yet sufficient design, the JJ-1 ''歼教-1'', which was created and built by Factory 112, now known as AVIC Shenyang (or as SAC 沈飞 in most pages in War Thunder Wiki). Inspired by this project, a team of designers led by Gu Songfen (顾诵芬), a legendary figure in China (member of both the CAS (''Chinese Academy of Sciences'') and CAE (''Chinese Academy of Engineering''), awarded the Highest Science and Technology Award (最高科学技术奖) in 2020 and the Touching China Award (''感动中国'') in 2021), would set out on a new venture: what would eventually become the '''J-8''' ('''歼-8'''; NATO reporting name: Finback 长须鲸).
 === Inspiration ===
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 As Gu Songfen once remarked, ''"The biggest flaw of the J-7 was its limited flight time; it could only remain at high altitudes for approximately 2-3 minutes and had a slow rate of climb."'' This frustrated Mainland Chinese aircraft designers, as they were unable to effectively counter the U-2s. Additionally, with the testing of the XB-70, which was intended for sudden strikes on Mainland China's nuclear facilities (as well as Soviet ones), the PLAAF urgently needed a new high-altitude interceptor.
-Two of the chief designers of the JJ-1, '''Xu Shunshou''' ('''徐舜寿''', died during Cultural Revolution in 1968) and Huang Zhiqian ('''黄志千''', crashed with all passengers and crews of PIA705 in Cairo in 1965), embarked on the design of a new interceptor. They considered 22 different proposals, including both single and twin-engine designs. At that time, the prevailing sentiment in China was, ''"If we can build an atomic bomb, how difficult could it be to develop a jet engine?"'' Consequently, the early design of the new interceptor featured a single engine, while Huang Zhiqian continued to work on an alternative twin-engine design in case engine development posed challenges.
+Two of the chief designers of the JJ-1, Xu Shunshou (徐舜寿, died during Cultural Revolution in 1968) and Huang Zhiqian (黄志千, crashed with all passengers and crews of PIA705 in Cairo in 1965), embarked on the design of a new interceptor. They considered 22 different proposals, including both single and twin-engine designs. At that time, the prevailing sentiment in China was, ''"If we can build an atomic bomb, how difficult could it be to develop a jet engine?"'' Consequently, the early design of the new interceptor featured a single engine, while Huang Zhiqian continued to work on an alternative twin-engine design in case engine development posed challenges.
 During the theoretical discussions on the new interceptor, the pro-single engine designers couldn't guarantee the timeline for developing a new engine. As a result, Huang Zhiqian's model, known as the "Roast Duck 烤鸭" due to its twin WP-7 engines, became the preferred design for the interceptor, while the single-engine version remained unrealized.
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 After the pre-production J-8Is entered service with the PLAAF in the 1980s, a comparative test was conducted with the J-7. While the J-8I showcased impressive acceleration, it was found to be lacking in agility. Around this time, the PLAAF had set its sights on acquiring the MiG-23 as their new interceptor. Estimates suggested that the J-8I would not be able to compete with the MiG-23, given the latter's variable swept-wing design and advanced avionics, which outperformed the J-8I's nose-intake configuration.
-Two options were considered: one was to reverse-engineer a MiG-23MS (No. 9501, obtained from Egypt, now housed in the Chinese Aviation Museum (中国航空博物馆)), and the other was to enhance the original J-8I airframe with a more aerodynamic design featuring side intakes. This marked the first time that Mainland China used composite materials in aircraft, resulting in the more nimble J-8II. Due to the extensive redesign, it was initially estimated to take six years before the maiden flight. However, the J-8II achieved its first flight within just 3 and a half years. The J-8II (J-8B Block 1) made its debut flight on June 12, 1984 (''No. 84612,  now stored at Shenyang Aerospace University 沈阳航空航天大''学), earning the nickname "Handsome in Air" (空中美男子) due to its revised airframe with side intakes and the first completely domestic (but much flawed) monopulse radar.
+Two options were considered: one was to reverse-engineer a MiG-23MS (No. 9501, obtained from Egypt, now housed in the Chinese Aviation Museum (中国航空博物馆)), and the other was to enhance the original J-8I airframe with a more aerodynamic design featuring side intakes. This marked the first time that Mainland China used composite materials in aircraft, resulting in the more nimble J-8II. Due to the extensive redesign, it was initially estimated to take six years before the maiden flight. However, the J-8II achieved its first flight within just 3 and a half years. The J-8II (J-8B Block 1) made its debut flight on June 12, 1984 (''No. 84612, now stored at Shenyang Aerospace University 沈阳航空航天大''学), earning the nickname "Handsome in Air" (空中美男子) due to its revised airframe with side intakes and the first completely domestic (but much flawed) monopulse radar.
-Nevertheless, after the Israeli Air Force massacred the Lebanese Air Force, which flew MiG-23 Floggers, in 1983, SAC recognised the need for significant upgrades to keep the J-8II competitive with the latest 3rd generation jets. Fortunately, Sino-American relations were relatively stable in the early 1980s, and US pilots noted that the J-8II had impressive acceleration but lagged behind in avionics. Grumman was brought in to handle the development of the '''J-8II "Peace Pearl" (和平珍珠)/ Project 8-2 (八二工程)''' with F-16 avionics. However, this program was halted due to the 1989 Beijing crackdown. SAC and Grumman resumed the program in the 1990s, but the Chinese eventually opted for Russian [[J-11|Su-27SK Flankers]] instead. The domestic '''J-8C/Project 8-3 (八三工程)''' also encountered multiple crashes during tests and many breakdown of engines. As a result, they first developed an aerial-refueling variant (J-8D) by 1991, then a pulse-Doppler equipped one (J-8H) by 2001, and eventually the latest version with ARH missiles ([[J-8F]]) by 2003. SAC also planned an export version called the F-8IIM with Russian avionics and weaponry by late 1990s but failed to secure any contracts.
+Nevertheless, after the Israeli Air Force eradicated the Lebanese Air Force, which flew MiG-23 Floggers, in 1983, SAC recognised the need for significant upgrades to keep the J-8II competitive with the latest 3rd generation jets. Fortunately, Sino-American relations were relatively stable in the early 1980s, and US pilots noted that the J-8II had impressive acceleration but lagged behind in avionics. Grumman was brought in to handle the development of the J-8II "Peace Pearl" (和平珍珠)/ Project 8-2 (八二工程) with F-16 avionics. However, this program was halted due to the 1989 Beijing crackdown. SAC and Grumman resumed the program in the 1990s, but the Chinese eventually opted for Russian [[J-11|Su-27SK Flankers]] instead. The domestic J-8C/Project 8-3 (八三工程) also encountered multiple crashes during tests and many breakdown of engines. As a result, they first developed an aerial-refueling variant (J-8D) by 1991, then a pulse-Doppler equipped one (J-8H) by 2001, and eventually the latest version with ARH missiles ([[J-8F]]) by 2003. SAC also planned an export version called the F-8IIM with Russian avionics and weaponry by late 1990s but failed to secure any contracts.
 Despite the relatively long time it took to become fully commissioned (not until 2002), the J-8II series became a cornerstone as a test platform for new technologies for PLAAF jets. It also played a role in post-Cold War regional disputes, including the Hainan Island incident. Only the JZ-8F reconnaissance variant remains in service, while the last combat variants of the J-8II were scheduled to be decommissioned by June 2022.

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 {{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Official'''}}空中美男子 <small>(Handsome in Air; by PLAAF and comment of Singaporean pilot )</small>
-{{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Public'''}}八爷 <small>(Grandpa Eight; by Chinese military enthusiasts)</small>
+{{Navigation-First-Line|'''␗ Public'''}}八爷 <small>(Grandpa Eight; by Chinese military enthusiasts)</small>空中蔡国庆 <small>([https://mydramalist.com/people/51427-cai-guo-qing Cai Guoqing],a Chinese male actor known for his  attractive appearance)</small>
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 == Description ==
-The '''J-8''' is a supersonic jet fighter aircraft developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation.
+The '''Shenyang J-8''' is a jet interceptor designed and developed by the People's Republic of China. The project started in the early 1960s as a low-risk initiative to create a larger and more powerful version of the Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21F]].
 ==Vehicles==
 ===Rank VII===
 * [[J-8B]]
 ===Rank VIII===
 * [[J-8F]]
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