J-6A - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Added custom loadouts

2023-09-05T21:29:19Z

‎Suspended armament: Added custom loadouts

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-03-03T19:54:00Z

‎Description

U4656018: /* Description */ Updated description by current suggestions

2023-03-03T17:55:39Z

‎Description: Updated description by current suggestions

U44629479: Edits

2022-12-02T07:35:18Z

Edits

U38088265: /* Engine performance */

2021-09-29T15:03:08Z

‎Engine performance

U38088265: /* Flight performance */

2021-08-19T18:50:31Z

‎Flight performance

U4656018: /* History */ Adding its original code and aerial victories over its enemies

2021-08-01T15:03:24Z

‎History: Adding its original code and aerial victories over its enemies

U20043873: /* Description */ lock on feature has been removed

2021-05-25T09:13:41Z

‎Description: lock on feature has been removed

U38088265: /* Engine performance */ Updated name

2021-03-29T10:51:47Z

‎Engine performance: Updated name

U4656018: Removed ballistic computer as its pros due to the removal of it from the remaining fighter aircrafts that have it

2021-03-16T15:22:27Z

Removed ballistic computer as its pros due to the removal of it from the remaining fighter aircrafts that have it

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 16 x S-5K rockets
+* 2 x PL-2 missiles
 * 32 x S-5K rockets
 * 2 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (200 kg total)
 * 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
 The J-6A can be equipped with PL-2 missiles, licensed copies of the Soviet [[R-3S]] with identical performance.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The J-6A (Chinese: 歼-6甲型歼击机; Type 59 Interceptor 五九式歼击机 before new naming), sharing the identical NATO codename of "Farmer" to its [[MiG-19 (Family)|Soviet counterpart]] since it was a licensed built of MiG-19 series, was the main fighter jet of PLAAF since early 1960s; as the first country to built supersonic jets in Asia, J-6 and its different variants have been in service with the PLAAF for nearly 4 decades before they were finally replaced by new jets. Although deemed as obsolete already by the time F-104 and MiG-21 series joined their respective air forces, J-6 scored some victories over ROCAF, US(N)AF against their jets and drones, as well as overseas victories by other users; the jet also served as a platform of different prototypes and the predecessor of Nanchang [[Q-5 (Family)|Q-5]] with 60% of the parts interchangeable.
+The J-6A (Chinese: 歼-6甲型歼击机; Type 59 Interceptor 五九式歼击机 before new naming), sharing the NATO codename of "Farmer" with its [[MiG-19 (Family)|Soviet counterpart]] since it was a licensed build of the MiG-19 series, was the main fighter jet of the PLAAF since the early 1960s. As the first country to build supersonic jets in Asia, the J-6 and its different variants were in service with the PLAAF for nearly 4 decades before they were finally replaced by new jets. Although already deemed obsolete by the time the F-104 and MiG-21 series joined their respective air forces, the J-6 scored some victories over the ROCAF and US(N)AF against their jets and drones, as well as overseas victories by other users. The jet also served as a platform of different prototypes, and was the predecessor of the Nanchang [[Q-5 (Family)|Q-5]], with 60% of the parts interchangeable.
-Introduced to the game alongside with the Chinese tech tree in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] and plays identically to MiG-19PT previously introduced about a year earlier. The immersive acceleration paired with its firepower strike fears on subsonic jets which couldn't chase it; but do beware for its subpar maneuverability at transonic speeds where it would have a hard time pulling off from dives. Although it would face more advanced jets such as [[MiG-21 (Family)|Fishbeds]] and [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|Phantoms]], if players are able to lure them into a dogfight, the 30 mm cannons will never disappoint as they can tear down enemy targets with ease; alternatively with PL-2 missiles if they have used up all energy/flares to escape from the inevitable.
+Introduced to the game alongside the Chinese tech tree in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]], the J-6 plays identically to the MiG-19PT previously introduced about a year earlier. The immense acceleration paired with its firepower strike fear in subsonic jets that cannot chase it; but do beware of its subpar manoeuvrability at transonic speeds where it will have a hard time pulling out from dives. Although it can face more advanced jets such as [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21s]] and [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|Phantoms]], if players are able to lure them into a dogfight, the 30 mm cannons will never disappoint as they can tear down enemy targets with ease; alternatively, the PL-2 missiles can also prove effective if they have used up all their energy/flares to escape from the inevitable.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
+The J-6A (Chinese: 歼-6甲型歼击机; Type 59 Interceptor 五九式歼击机 before new naming), sharing the identical NATO codename of "Farmer" to its [[MiG-19 (Family)|Soviet counterpart]] since it was a licensed built of MiG-19 series, was the main fighter jet of PLAAF since early 1960s; as the first country to built supersonic jets in Asia, J-6 and its different variants have been in service with the PLAAF for nearly 4 decades before they were finally replaced by new jets. Although deemed as obsolete already by the time F-104 and MiG-21 series joined their respective air forces, J-6 scored some victories over ROCAF, US(N)AF against their jets and drones, as well as overseas victories by other users; the jet also served as a platform of different prototypes and the predecessor of Nanchang [[Q-5 (Family)|Q-5]] with 60% of the parts interchangeable.
-Largely identical to the Soviet [[MiG-19PT]], the J-6A is the first supersonic PLAAF jet available in the Chinese tech tree and has much to offer; radar, air-to-air missiles, and powerful guns in addition to high speed and acceleration. The only physical difference between it and the MiG-19PT is the relocated braking parachute, which is now placed at a bulge on the base of the rudder instead of underneath the engines.
+Introduced to the game alongside with the Chinese tech tree in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] and plays identically to MiG-19PT previously introduced about a year earlier. The immersive acceleration paired with its firepower strike fears on subsonic jets which couldn't chase it; but do beware for its subpar maneuverability at transonic speeds where it would have a hard time pulling off from dives. Although it would face more advanced jets such as [[MiG-21 (Family)|Fishbeds]] and [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|Phantoms]], if players are able to lure them into a dogfight, the 30 mm cannons will never disappoint as they can tear down enemy targets with ease; alternatively with PL-2 missiles if they have used up all energy/flares to escape from the inevitable.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mig-19j_6a Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[MiG-19 (Family)]]

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=mig-19j_6a
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 * 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
-The J-6A can be equipped with PL-2 missiles, licensed copies of the Soviet [[R-3S]] with identical performance. As of [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the MiG-19PT is no longer capable of equipping the more advanced [[R-13M]] missile, putting the J-6A on equal footing with it.
+The J-6A can be equipped with PL-2 missiles, licensed copies of the Soviet [[R-3S]] with identical performance.
 The ideal use-case for the PL-2 is when you're at very high speed, following something like a Phantom from around a mile. The missile will get to the target before they can react, and with large targets like the Phantom, they can't pull hard enough at those speeds to evade the missile. It is not recommended to fire the missile in any sort of turn as they will just lose track.
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 == See also ==
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+;Related development
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[MiG-19 (Family)]]
 == External links ==
 <!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->

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 |-
 ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
-! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
+! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
-| colspan="2" | Shenyang Liming WP-6a ||  2
+| colspan="2" | Shenyang Liming WP-6a || 2
-| colspan="2" | 5,447 kg || colspan="2" | 301 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 5,853 kg || colspan="2" | 304 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
+! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 23m fuel
+! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 25m fuel
 |-
 | 725 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
-| 6,311 kg || 7,328 kg || 7,563 kg || 9,100 kg
+| 6,393 kg || 7,254 kg || 7,653 kg || 9,100 kg
 |-
-! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
+! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
 |-
 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 23m fuel || MTOW
+! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 25m fuel || MTOW
 |-
-| ''Stationary'' || 2,296 kgf || 3,215 kgf
+| ''Stationary'' || 2,296 kgf || 3,218 kgf
-| 1.02 || 0.88 || 0.85 || 0.71
+| 1.01 || 0.89 || 0.84 || 0.71
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 2,320 kgf<br />(1,000 km/h) || 3,248 kgf<br />(1,000 km/h)
+| ''Optimal'' || 2,320 kgf<br>(1,000 km/h) || 3,284 kgf<br>(1,000 km/h)
-| 1.03 || 0.89 || 0.86 || 0.71
+| 1.03 || 0.91 || 0.86 || 0.72
 |-
 |}

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 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| ___ || 1,436 || __._ || 32.0 || __._ || 180.0
+| 1,449 || 1,436 || 31.6 || 32.0 || 203.2 || 180.0
 |-
 |}
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|OFAB-100 (100 kg)|OFAB-250-270 (250 kg)|PL-2|S-5K}}
+{{main|OFAB-100 (100 kg)|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|PL-2|S-5K}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 2 x PL-2 missiles
 * 2 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (200 kg total)
-* 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
+* 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
 The J-6A can be equipped with PL-2 missiles, licensed copies of the Soviet [[R-3S]] with identical performance. As of [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the MiG-19PT is no longer capable of equipping the more advanced [[R-13M]] missile, putting the J-6A on equal footing with it.
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 === Radars ===
-{{main|RP-5|RP-5}}
+{{main|RP-5}}
 The {{PAGENAME}} is equipped with a [[RP-5]] search radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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 The J-6 served in the PLAAF for far longer than the MiG-19 had in the VVS. While it became outdated and suffered from numerous issues regarding service life and quality, the Chinese aircraft industry learned a considerable amount from its development and manufacturing. The J-6/MiG-19 design was further developed into the more well-known Nanchang Q-5 attacker.
-During its 4-decade-long service life since 1962, J-6 served as the cornerstone of PLAAF and scored quite a few victories over ROCAF and USAF/USN; the J-6 was also exported to several nations under the "F-6" designation and participated in several conflicts. The F-6 was operated by Pakistan in the 1971 war with India (with some victories over the IAF), by Vietnam in the Vietnam War (alongside the original MiG-19), and curiously enough by both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. In these conflicts the F-6 was often relegated to air-to-ground missions since its speed and avionics were inadequate, though it was capable of dispatching subsonic aircraft and could outmaneuver faster jets in a dogfight.
+During its 4-decade-long service life since 1962, J-6 served as the cornerstone of PLAAF and scored quite a few victories over ROCAF and USAF/USN; the J-6 was also exported to several nations under the "F-6" designation and participated in several conflicts. The F-6 was operated by Pakistan in the 1971 war with India (with some victories over the IAF), by Vietnam in the Vietnam War (alongside the original MiG-19), and curiously enough by both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. In these conflicts the F-6 was often relegated to air-to-ground missions since its speed and avionics were inadequate, though it was capable of dispatching subsonic aircraft and could outmanoeuvre faster jets in a dogfight.
 At present, the J-6 has been retired by most of its users, with North Korea having the largest number of remaining jets in service.
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 == External links ==
-<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
-* ''other literature.''-->
+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/436414-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-19pt/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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 The People's Republic of China received considerable military and technological assistance from the Soviet Union for most of the 1950s. Significant quantities of jet fighters, including the [[MiG-9 (China)|MiG-9]], [[J-2|MiG-15bis]], [[J-4|MiG-17]], and others were purchased to modernize the nation's otherwise haphazard and antiquated air force, which at the end of the Chinese Civil War consisted of assorted captured American and Japanese aircraft. Production licenses were secured for the MiG-17 and MiG-19, and these two aircraft models were produced as the domestic [[Shenyang F-5|Shenyang J-5]] and '''Shenyang J-6'''.
-The '''J-6A''' model was intended as an equivalent of the MiG-19P and first flew in 1958. Quality control issues, resulting from the limited experience of the Chinese manufacturing industry at the time, meant that the performance of the aircraft was inferior to the original. The aircraft was rejected by the PLAAF and production was limited. In the mid 1970s, production was restarted with new jigs from the Soviet Union. These new aircraft were of an acceptable standard and entered PLAAF service in extensive numbers.
+The '''J-6A,''' aka Dongfeng 102 (东风102) or Type 59 Interceptor (59式歼击机), was intended as an equivalent of the MiG-19P and first flew in 1958. Quality control issues, resulting from the limited experience of the Chinese manufacturing industry at the time, meant that the performance of the aircraft was inferior to the original. The aircraft was rejected by the PLAAF and production was limited. In the mid 1970s, production was restarted with new jigs from the Soviet Union. These new aircraft were of an acceptable standard and entered PLAAF service in extensive numbers.
-A large number of variants and prototypes were made, though their designations and designs are muddied and difficult to research. The "J-6B" variant was a copy of the Soviet MiG-19PM interceptor model, which lacked cannon armament and was armed solely with beam riding air-to-air missiles, though its performance was unsatisfactory like the early J-6A and only a small number were produced. Several models were designed after the [[MiG-19S (Germany) | MiG-19S]] and a handful entered serial production. Later variants relocated the braking parachute to the base of the rudder. Various prototypes experimented with MiG-21 style shock cones. Reconnaissance and two-seat trainer variants were also manufactured, the latter being notable since the Soviet Union did not manufacture any MiG-19 trainer variants. One trainer airframe was used to test the fly-by-wire system of the JH-7 fighter-bomber.
+A large number of variants and prototypes were made, though their designations and designs are muddied and difficult to research. The "J-6B" variant was a copy of the Soviet MiG-19PM interceptor model, which lacked cannon armament and was armed solely with beam riding air-to-air missiles, though its performance was unsatisfactory like the early J-6A and only a small number were produced. Several models were designed after the [[MiG-19S (Germany) |MiG-19S]] and a handful entered serial production. Later variants relocated the braking parachute to the base of the rudder. Various prototypes experimented with MiG-21 style shock cones. Reconnaissance and two-seat trainer variants were also manufactured, the latter being notable since the Soviet Union did not manufacture any MiG-19 trainer variants. One trainer airframe, known as BW-1 (变稳-1) was used to test the fly-by-wire system of the JH-7 fighter-bomber.
 The J-6 served in the PLAAF for far longer than the MiG-19 had in the VVS. While it became outdated and suffered from numerous issues regarding service life and quality, the Chinese aircraft industry learned a considerable amount from its development and manufacturing. The J-6/MiG-19 design was further developed into the more well-known Nanchang Q-5 attacker.
-The J-6 was exported to several nations under the "F-6" designation and participated in several conflicts. The F-6 was operated by Pakistan in the 1971 war with India, by Vietnam in the Vietnam War (alongside the original MiG-19), and curiously enough by both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. In these conflicts the F-6 was often relegated to air-to-ground missions since its speed and avionics were inadequate, though it was capable of dispatching subsonic aircraft and could outmaneuver faster jets in a dogfight.
+During its 4-decade-long service life since 1962, J-6 served as the cornerstone of PLAAF and scored quite a few victories over ROCAF and USAF/USN; the J-6 was also exported to several nations under the "F-6" designation and participated in several conflicts. The F-6 was operated by Pakistan in the 1971 war with India (with some victories over the IAF), by Vietnam in the Vietnam War (alongside the original MiG-19), and curiously enough by both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. In these conflicts the F-6 was often relegated to air-to-ground missions since its speed and avionics were inadequate, though it was capable of dispatching subsonic aircraft and could outmaneuver faster jets in a dogfight.
 At present, the J-6 has been retired by most of its users, with North Korea having the largest number of remaining jets in service.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
-Largely identical to the Soviet [[MiG-19PT]], the J-6A is the first supersonic PLAAF jet available in the Chinese tech tree and has much to offer; radar, air-to-air missiles, and powerful guns in addition to high speed and acceleration. The only physical difference between it and the MiG-19PT is the relocated braking parachute, which is now placed at a bulge on the base of the rudder instead of underneath the engines. Unusually, locking onto an air target with the radar will also provide a lead indicator in third person, a game mechanic previously removed from the MiG-19PT.
+Largely identical to the Soviet [[MiG-19PT]], the J-6A is the first supersonic PLAAF jet available in the Chinese tech tree and has much to offer; radar, air-to-air missiles, and powerful guns in addition to high speed and acceleration. The only physical difference between it and the MiG-19PT is the relocated braking parachute, which is now placed at a bulge on the base of the rudder instead of underneath the engines.
 Compared to the [[F-100A (China)|F-100A]], its Taiwanese counterpart across the strait, the J-6A flies much better but has inferior suspended weapons. The J-6A's meagre selection of small bombs and rockets may be disappointing in combined battles. Still, pilots who practice with this plane or are used to its Soviet version can pose a major threat to enemy fighters. Despite having a lower top speed than many of the aircraft it encounters, the J-6A's excellent acceleration and relatively good manoeuvrability let it punch above its weight when flown carefully.

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 * Has a target detection and tracking radar
 * Decent manoeuvrability
 '''Cons:'''
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''