I-153P - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-11-04T10:33:49Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U44629479: Edits

2023-07-08T05:53:29Z

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U44629479: Edits

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U38088265: /* In-game description */ Reformatted

2022-11-19T22:16:57Z

‎In-game description: Reformatted

U44629479: Undo revision 106235 by U44982996 (talk) Do not copy/paste the same content on different pages.

2021-06-26T16:13:22Z

Undo revision 106235 by U44982996 (talk) Do not copy/paste the same content on different pages.

U44982996 at 08:49, 26 June 2021

2021-06-26T08:49:24Z

U38088265 at 11:47, 24 April 2021

2021-04-24T11:47:33Z

U28580205: /* Pros and cons */

2021-04-09T20:25:23Z

‎Pros and cons

U12635407: Added a pro regarding the speed & suspended armaments into the Pros & Cons section.

2021-04-09T04:58:09Z

Added a pro regarding the speed & suspended armaments into the Pros & Cons section.

U44629479: /* Flight performance */ Added stock values

2021-03-21T16:15:14Z

‎Flight performance: Added stock values

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|FAB-50sv (50 kg)|RS-82|RBS-82}}
+{{main|FAB-50sv (50 kg)|ROS-82|RBS-82}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total)
+* 2 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (100 kg total)
-* 8 x RS-82 rockets
+* 8 x ROS-82 rockets
 * 8 x RBS-82 rockets

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 | about = premium Soviet biplane '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = other versions
-| link = I-15 (Family)
+| link = I-153 (Family)
 }}
 {{Specs-Card
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-Unlike other I-15 that are armed with 7.62 mm machine guns, the {{PAGENAME}} with its 20 mm calibre has comparatively few shells in the gun's magazine, so while the 20 mm can be used to easily destroy enemies, it will require good shot accuracy to make the most of the limited ammunition.
+Unlike other I-153s that are armed with 7.62 mm machine guns, the {{PAGENAME}} with its 20 mm calibre has comparatively few shells in the gun's magazine, so while the 20 mm can be used to easily destroy enemies, it will require good shot accuracy to make the most of the limited ammunition.
 The I-153 can be used in turnfighting, bomber intercepting and ground pounding. Like in AB and RB, it is excellent in turning tightly and continuously, and it has lovely low-speed handling and low stall speeds (unlike its successor I-16), making it a great starter plane for Sim. However it does have its drawbacks: the rather large nose blocks the visibility a lot, offering very poor over-the-nose visibility which is a disadvantage in a turn fight, because when leading a shot the enemy will always get obstructed by the engine, forcing the player to guess the shot. Also its upper wings will get in the way when you look aside.
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Related development
+;[[I-153 (Family)|Related development]]
-* [[I-15 (Family)]]
 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

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 {{About
 | about = premium Soviet biplane '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = other uses
+| usage = other versions
 | link = I-15 (Family)
 }}
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 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
-[[Ki-27 otsu|Ki-27]], [[N1K1]], [[He 51 (Family)|He 51]], [[Gladiator (Family)|Gladiator]], etc:
+[[Ki-27 otsu]], [[N1K1]], [[He 51 (Family)|He 51]], [[Gladiator (Family)|Gladiator]], etc. - Those commonly seen planes are equally good at turnfights and will be a hard target to down since they are very small and agile. To deal with them you need to practice leading and deflection shots, plus manoeuvres like barrel rolls and scissors. Fortunately they can be damaged easily by your ShVAK.
-Those commonly seen planes are equally good at turnfights and will be a hard target to down since they are very small and agile. To deal with them you need to practice leading and deflection shots, plus manoeuvres like barrel rolls and scissors. Fortunately they can be damaged easily by your ShVAK.
+[[Do 17 Z-2]] - This early twin engine plane always shows up as an AI controlled recon aircraft that you have to down, which is good news as AI won't manoeuvre aggressively. However this plane is extremely durable even for the twin ShVAK. When it shows up as an AI, deflection shots are not recommended as the small shooting windows really does nothing. Instead, try disabling its 2 gunners first, then just sit behind it and burst on its wings and engines. When attacking the gunners try to not get your engine damaged by pulling evasive manoeuvres as soon as the bullets come close, since the Do 17 can outrun the I-153 in a level flight.
-[[Do 17 Z-2|Do 17 Z]]:
+[[He 111 H-6]] - This bomber is not only quite durable, but also pretty fast. In level flight it can outrun the I-153 rather easily. Avoid being on its six as it will have at least 2 x 7.92 mm MG facing its tail, and their rapid rate of fire and good penetration is a big threat. Either go for a head-on or use deflection shooting and aim for its engines. If you cannot keep up with it, disengage. If it flies far higher than you, change your target.
-This early twin engine plane always shows up as an AI controlled recon aircraft that you have to down, which is good news as AI won't manoeuvre aggressively. However this plane is extremely durable even for the twin ShVAK. When it shows up as an AI, deflection shots are not recommended as the small shooting windows really does nothing. Instead, try disabling its 2 gunners first, then just sit behind it and burst on its wings and engines. When attacking the gunners try to not get your engine damaged by pulling evasive manoeuvres as soon as the bullets come close, since the Do 17 can outrun the I-153 in a level flight.
+[[Sunderland Mk IIIa]] - This flying boat is like a low-tier [[Be-6]]. Its huge fuselage is very spacious and can absorb lots of bullets and shells. It also has lethal defensive firepower: two 7.7 mm in the nose, four forward-facing, two on the top and four at the tail, so attacking from behind, in front or above aren't the best options. Dive under it and suddenly pull up to shoot its defenceless underpart. Aim at the large wings and engines, avoid shooting the fuselage.
 [[He 100 D-1|He 100]], [[Bf 109 E-1|Bf 109 E]]/[[Bf 109 F-1|F]], [[A6M2]]:
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 ====Counter-tactics====
 <!--What to expect, if it would be in command of the enemy and how to counter it. (i.e. They will most likely BnZ, etc.)-->
-Should you be facing an I-153P, whatever you do, do not attempt to engage in a turn fight. The little biplane is more than capable of out turning even the A6M2 Reisen. Calmly deploy Boom & Zoom tactics against it; fly in from above, light it up, and fly away. Try not to keep yourself level for too long, as there is a chance it will be able to hit you if you speed away. It has a moderate climbrate too and will climb after you with relative effectiveness if you fly back up after the "zoom".
+Should you be facing an I-153P, whatever you do, do not attempt to engage in a turn fight. The little biplane is more than capable of out turning even the A6M2 Reisen. Calmly deploy Boom & Zoom tactics against it; fly in from above, light it up, and fly away. Try not to keep yourself level for too long, as there is a chance it will be able to hit you if you speed away. It has a moderate climb rate too and will climb after you with relative effectiveness if you fly back up after the "zoom".
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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 * Poor energy retention
 * Good climb rate against biplanes, but not against advanced monoplanes
-* Less effective belts for ShVAKs (An issue shared by I-16s type 27 and 28.)
+* Less effective belts for ShVAKs (An issue shared by I-16s type 27 and 28)
 == History ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}|expand=true}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
-The I-153P Chaika (Seagull) was a Soviet biplane fighter of the 1930s and 1940s. It was created by the Polikarpov Design Bureau in 1938. It is a modification (3rd variant) of the earlier I-15 fighter, as shown in the designation. The Chaika was considered to be the fastest biplane in the world. However, at the start of hostilities between the Soviet Union and Germany, the I-153 could not compete on equal terms with the German Messerschmitt Bf-109 and therefore was mainly used in ground attack roles.
+The I-153P Chaika (Seagull) was a Soviet biplane fighter of the 1930s and 1940s. It was created by the Polikarpov Design Bureau in 1938. It is a modification (3rd variant) of the earlier I-15 fighter, as shown in the designation. The Chaika was considered to be the fastest biplane in the world. However, at the start of hostilities between the Soviet Union and Germany, the I-153 could not compete on equal terms with the German Messerschmitt Bf 109 and therefore was mainly used in ground attack roles.
 For many years, Soviet pilots considered the I-16 to be the most dangerous aircraft in a spin. Therefore, when flight testing the I-153 with the M-25 engine in March and April of 1939, the VVS Command paid special attention to its spin characteristics. Initially, the matter remained unresolved. However, in the summer of 1939, when the new aircraft saw action against the Japanese in Mongolia, NII VVS returned to this crucial point. Test results were disappointing. By the third full rotation the I-153 would go into a flat spin; the engine would cease by the fifth formation, after which spin recovery would become extremely difficult. Lowering the landing gear in order to shift the center of gravity did not help. The Chaika still took a significant amount of time to recover.
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=i-153p Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=i-153p Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|1WIdbHr_adc|'''Premium Series. {{PAGENAME}}. Quick Defeat!''' - ''Joseph 2000''|7d-Kop_sGt8|'''The Shooting Range #162''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:44 discusses the I-153.|diDr1Delr-E|'''Premium Review: {{PAGENAME}}'''  - ''Jengar''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|1WIdbHr_adc|'''Premium Series. I-153P. Quick Defeat!''' - ''Joseph 2000''|7d-Kop_sGt8|'''The Shooting Range #162''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:44 discusses the I-153.|diDr1Delr-E|'''Premium Review: I-153P''' - ''Jengar''}}
 == See also ==
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 ;Related development
 * [[I-15 (Family)]]

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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-=== In-game description ===
+{{break}}
 The I-153P Chaika (Seagull) was a Soviet biplane fighter of the 1930s and 1940s. It was created by the Polikarpov Design Bureau in 1938. It is a modification (3rd variant) of the earlier I-15 fighter, as shown in the designation. The Chaika was considered to be the fastest biplane in the world. However, at the start of hostilities between the Soviet Union and Germany, the I-153 could not compete on equal terms with the German Messerschmitt Bf-109 and therefore was mainly used in ground attack roles.
 For many years, Soviet pilots considered the I-16 to be the most dangerous aircraft in a spin. Therefore, when flight testing the I-153 with the M-25 engine in March and April of 1939, the VVS Command paid special attention to its spin characteristics. Initially, the matter remained unresolved. However, in the summer of 1939, when the new aircraft saw action against the Japanese in Mongolia, NII VVS returned to this crucial point. Test results were disappointing. By the third full rotation the I-153 would go into a flat spin; the engine would cease by the fifth formation, after which spin recovery would become extremely difficult. Lowering the landing gear in order to shift the center of gravity did not help. The Chaika still took a significant amount of time to recover.
 == Media ==

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Excellent flight performance
-** Fast climb rate
+* Low stall speed
-** Excellent manoeuvrability (will out-turn ''any'' enemy aircraft it encounters)
+* Good roll rate
-** Extremely difficult to target while it is making manoeuvres
+* Great turn speed
-** Very low stall speed
+* Great armament consisting of 2 x 20 mm cannons
-** The ability to retract landing gear reduces parasitic drag, improving your energy retention
+* Easily underestimated
-* Small target, coupled with great manoeuvering ability making it hard to target
+* Thanks to great agility and suspended armaments, the Chaika can work as very nimble CAS
 '''Cons:'''
-* Being a biplane, it shared several downsides;
-** Frail airframe, can be destroyed or crippled with a few well placed hits, very vulnerable against ''any'' enemy guns it faces
+* Slow
-** Terrible top speed for its BR
+* Very vulnerable against enemy guns it faces
-** Very vulnerable to fire damage
+* Poor energy retention
-** Poor energy retention
+* Good climb rate against biplanes, but not against advanced monoplanes
-* Virtually no frontal protection, thus making the engine very prone to damage
+* Less effective belts for ShVAKs (An issue shared by I-16s type 27 and 28.)
-** A single machine gun round to the engine is capable of knocking it out
 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->

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 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
-''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 ! Stock
-| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 274
+| 425 || 411 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 13.7 || 14.4 || 11.4 || 11.4 || rowspan="2" | 274
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 ! Upgraded