HMS Liverpool - Revision history

U28580205: Reverted pending rewrite

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Reverted pending rewrite

U74396666: New Description Project - Great Britain Priority: HMS Liverpool

2023-11-27T08:03:04Z

New Description Project - Great Britain Priority: HMS Liverpool

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

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‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U44629479: Edits

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‎Secondary armament

U38088265: /* Primary armament */

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U2126463: /* Primary armament */ added penetration chart

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U6591054: /* Anti-aircraft armament */

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‎Anti-aircraft armament

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‎Anti-aircraft armament

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 == Description ==
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-The '''HMS Liverpool (C11)''' is a member of the Town-class light cruiser family. She served in the British Navy from 1938 to 1952. The HMS Liverpool received four battle honours during World War II and was severely damaged in two attacks by Italian torpedo bombers. She worked with naval stations in the East Indies and China, as well as the Mediterranean and Home Fleet. In January 1940, while serving as the flagship of the China Station, the HMS Liverpool caused a diplomatic incident with Japan when she intercepted the liner Asama Maru off the coast of Japan. The battles of the Espero Convoy and Calabria, the Arctic Convoys, and Operation Harpoon during the Malta Convoys were also fought by the HMS Liverpool. During Operation Harpoon on June 14, 1942, the HMS Liverpool suffered damage from an air raid and was forced to spend the rest of the war in Rosyth, Scotland, for repairs and refitting. She was recalled to service in 1945 and assigned as the Mediterranean Fleet's flagship. When Egyptian guerrillas campaigned against the British administration of the Suez Canal Zone in the early 1950s, the HMS Liverpool anchored in Port Said to support them. The HMS Liverpool was decommissioned in 1952, at a time when the British Navy's strength was rapidly dwindling. She was scrapped in Rosyth in 1958.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a squadron rank {{Specs|rank}} British light cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].
-Introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], the HMS Liverpool is one of the best light cruisers in the British Navy's inventory. Players are advised to take advantage of her high rate of fire to damage and overwhelm enemy ships. Its main armament is extremely effective against other light cruisers and destroyers, causing significant damage to internal components. The HMS Liverpool also has thick belt armour and magazine protection, making her difficult to knock out quickly by other enemy vessels. She also has a respectable torpedo arsenal, allowing her to pose a threat to battleships as long as they are within effective torpedo range. The HMS Southampton's ammunition magazines are well-protected, making them difficult to destroy quickly. She is, however, very easy to disable due to her thin turret armour and unarmoured bridge, and she frequently loses many crew members during engagements. To avoid being isolated and targeted, it is best to stick with allies during battles.
+The Liverpool is a member of the Gloucester sub-class of the so-called 'Town' class light cruisers. As such, she features some improvements to her overall protection compared to her sister ship, the [[HMS Southampton|Southampton]]. She is depicted in her late/post-war configuration, where her 'X' turret was removed and, in exchange, her anti-aircraft armament was substantially improved.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_cruiser_liverpool Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a squadron rank {{Specs|rank}} British light cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].
+The '''HMS Liverpool (C11)''' is a member of the Town-class light cruiser family. She served in the British Navy from 1938 to 1952. The HMS Liverpool received four battle honours during World War II and was severely damaged in two attacks by Italian torpedo bombers. She worked with naval stations in the East Indies and China, as well as the Mediterranean and Home Fleet. In January 1940, while serving as the flagship of the China Station, the HMS Liverpool caused a diplomatic incident with Japan when she intercepted the liner Asama Maru off the coast of Japan. The battles of the Espero Convoy and Calabria, the Arctic Convoys, and Operation Harpoon during the Malta Convoys were also fought by the HMS Liverpool. During Operation Harpoon on June 14, 1942, the HMS Liverpool suffered damage from an air raid and was forced to spend the rest of the war in Rosyth, Scotland, for repairs and refitting. She was recalled to service in 1945 and assigned as the Mediterranean Fleet's flagship. When Egyptian guerrillas campaigned against the British administration of the Suez Canal Zone in the early 1950s, the HMS Liverpool anchored in Port Said to support them. The HMS Liverpool was decommissioned in 1952, at a time when the British Navy's strength was rapidly dwindling. She was scrapped in Rosyth in 1958.
-The Liverpool is a member of the Gloucester sub-class of the so-called 'Town' class light cruisers. As such, she features some improvements to her overall protection compared to her sister ship, the [[HMS Southampton|Southampton]]. She is depicted in her late/post-war configuration, where her 'X' turret was removed and, in exchange, her anti-aircraft armament was substantially improved.
+Introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], the HMS Liverpool is one of the best light cruisers in the British Navy's inventory. Players are advised to take advantage of her high rate of fire to damage and overwhelm enemy ships. Its main armament is extremely effective against other light cruisers and destroyers, causing significant damage to internal components. The HMS Liverpool also has thick belt armour and magazine protection, making her difficult to knock out quickly by other enemy vessels. She also has a respectable torpedo arsenal, allowing her to pose a threat to battleships as long as they are within effective torpedo range. The HMS Southampton's ammunition magazines are well-protected, making them difficult to destroy quickly. She is, however, very easy to disable due to her thin turret armour and unarmoured bridge, and she frequently loses many crew members during engagements. To avoid being isolated and targeted, it is best to stick with allies during battles.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_cruiser_liverpool Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:6 inch/50 BL Mark XXIII (152 mm)/Ammunition|6 inch HE, 6 inch CPBC, 6 inch HE-TF, 6 inch HE-VT}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 The Liverpool has eight QF 4-inch Mark XVI cannons, mounted in four dual mounts behind her second funnel, two on each side of the ship. Since the main gun has a very high rate of fire, her secondary armament will not be needed as much against coastal craft and destroyers. It thus mainly serves as a long-range anti-aircraft battery, and can be quite effective once the HE-VT shell is available.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+{{:4 inch/45 Mark XVI (102 mm)/Ammunition|4 inch HE, 4 inch SAP, 4 inch HE-TF, 4 inch HE-VT}}
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===
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 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''

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-As with the other Town-class light cruisers, the Liverpool's hull is considerably well-protected, especially when compared to the British heavy cruisers that ironically have much worse citadel armour. With 114.5 mm of citadel belt armour on the side, 63.5 mm on the bow and stern, and 36.5 mm on the deck, the Liverpool's machinery space is highly resilient to internal damage, especially when angled. The magazine protection is also identical to that on the Southampton and [[HMS Belfast|Belfast]], which serves to prevent magazine detonations from other cruisers' AP shells. It is important to note, however, that the Liverpool has to expose a lot of her broadside in order to unmask the rear turret, essentially negating the Liverpool's belt armour.
+As with the other Town-class light cruisers, the Liverpool's hull is considerably well-protected, especially when compared to the British heavy cruisers that ironically have much worse citadel armour. With 114.5 mm of citadel belt armour on the side, 63.5 mm on the bow and stern, and 36.5 mm on the deck, the Liverpool's machinery space is highly resilient to internal damage, especially when angled. The magazine protection is also identical to that on the Southampton and [[HMS Belfast|Belfast]], which serves to prevent magazine detonations from other cruisers' AP shells. However, the Liverpool has to expose a lot of her broadside in order to unmask the rear turret, essentially negating the Liverpool's belt armour.
 For the first time in a British cruiser, the main gun turrets are also decently armoured, with 102 mm of armour at the front and 50.8 mm elsewhere. This mostly protects them against light cruiser HE shells and weaker AP shells from the front. However, she retains the same weakpoint shared by almost all British cruisers: the open bridge. This has some 12 mm protection around parts, but is still essentially unarmoured and very vulnerable to nearby explosions and any sizeable shell hits.
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 == Usage in battles ==
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-The Liverpool relies on her high rate-of-fire and CPBC semi-AP round to damage and overwhelm enemy ships. The CPBC round combines reasonably good penetration with a much larger filler than the AP rounds found on most contemporary light cruisers. It is highly effective against other light cruisers and larger destroyers, inflicting serious damage on internal components. At close ranges, it is even capable of penetrating heavy cruiser belt armour.
+The Liverpool relies on her high rate of fire and CPBC semi-AP round to damage and overwhelm enemy ships. The CPBC round combines reasonably good penetration with a much larger filler than the AP rounds found on most contemporary light cruisers. It is highly effective against other light cruisers and larger destroyers, inflicting serious damage on internal components. At close ranges, it is even capable of penetrating heavy cruiser belt armour.
 Her thick belt armour and magazine protection, conversely, mean that she is quite hard to knock out quickly by other light cruisers, and destroyers will struggle to inflict much damage beyond knocking out the open bridge, especially at range. The Liverpool also has a reasonable amount of turret armour, which allows her to more comfortably engage at closer ranges than other British cruisers without worrying too much about getting her turrets knocked out.
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 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
-* Thick belt armour and magazine protection.
+* Thick belt armour and magazine protection
-* Main guns have a high rate-of-fire for their calibre.
+* Main guns have a high rate of fire for their calibre
-* Large explosive filler and adequate penetration for the CPBC semi-AP shell.
+* Large explosive filler and adequate penetration for the CPBC semi-AP shell
-* Reasonable main gun turret protection.
+* Reasonable main gun turret protection
-* Highly effective anti-aircraft armament.
+* Highly effective anti-aircraft armament
-* Carries torpedoes with large warheads.
+* Carries torpedoes with large warheads
 '''Cons:'''
-* Restricted rear turret traverse arc.
+* Restricted rear turret traverse arc
-* Inadequate penetration at longer ranges.
+* Inadequate penetration at longer ranges
-* High horizontal dispersion, especially at long ranges.
+* High horizontal dispersion, especially at long ranges
-* Low crew complement.
+* Low crew complement
-* Open bridge with inadequate armour protection.
+* Open bridge with inadequate armour protection
-* Can be matched against battleships.
+* Can be matched against battleships
 == History ==
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:09, 25 October 2022
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	The Liverpool has eight QF 4-inch Mark XVI cannons, mounted in four dual mounts behind her second funnel, two on each side of the ship. Since the main gun has a very high rate of fire, her secondary armament will not be needed as much against coastal craft and destroyers. It thus mainly serves as a long-range anti-aircraft battery, and can be quite effective once the HE-VT shell is available.		The Liverpool has eight QF 4-inch Mark XVI cannons, mounted in four dual mounts behind her second funnel, two on each side of the ship. Since the main gun has a very high rate of fire, her secondary armament will not be needed as much against coastal craft and destroyers. It thus mainly serves as a long-range anti-aircraft battery, and can be quite effective once the HE-VT shell is available.
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="8" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE \|\| HE \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch SAP \|\| SAP \|\| 102 \|\| 85 \|\| 64 \|\| 48 \|\| 38 \|\| 30
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE-TF \|\| HE-TF \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE-VT \|\| HE-VT \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20 \|\| 20
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE \|\| HE \|\| 811 \|\| 15.88 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 1,550 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch SAP \|\| SAP \|\| 811 \|\| 17.35 \|\| 0.015 \|\| 5 \|\| 600 \|\| 47° \|\| 60° \|\| 65°
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE-TF \|\| HE-TF \|\| 811 \|\| 15.88 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 1,550 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="12" \| Proximity-fused shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(m)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Arming distance<br>(m)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Trigger radius<br>(m)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| 4 inch HE-VT \|\| HE-VT \|\| 811 \|\| 15.88 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 274 \|\| 18 \|\| 1,550 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Anti-aircraft armament ===		=== Anti-aircraft armament ===

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 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(s)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 ! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
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 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 |-
-| 6 inch HE || HE || 841 || 50.8 || 0.025 s || 0.1 || 3.96 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| 6 inch HE || HE || 841 || 50.8 || 0 || 0.1 || 3.96 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
-| 6 inch CPBC || SAPBC || 841 || 50.8 || 0.025 s || 7 || 1.7 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| 6 inch CPBC || SAPBC || 841 || 50.8 || 0.025 || 7 || 1.7 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-| 6 inch HE-TF || HE-TF || 841 || 50.8 || 0 m || 0.1 || 3.96 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| 6 inch HE-TF || HE-TF || 841 || 50.8 || 0 || 0.1 || 3.96 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 |}
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 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
+! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(s)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 ! rowspan="2" | Arming distance<br>(m)

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 It is important to note that the Liverpool's 'Y' turret has a fairly poor turret traverse arc, which means it is difficult to use her firepower to its fullest without exposing a lot of the ship to damage.
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 === Secondary armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

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 {{main|QF Mark V (40 mm)|QF Mark VII (40 mm)}}
-The Liverpool's anti-air suite is mostly identical to the Belfast's, with twelve 40 mm Bofors Mark V cannon in six twin mounts. However, during her wartime refit one of her rear turrets was removed in exchange of more space and topweight available to mount four more single 40 mm Bofors Mark VII autocannons. The 40 mm Bofors is one of the best naval medium range anti-aircraft guns, both in real life and in the game, thus the Liverpool can quite effectively defend herself against air attack, especially with good aim under manual control. The Bofors guns can also be deadly to coastal craft that get within range.
+The Liverpool's anti-aircraft suite is mostly identical to the Belfast's, with twelve 40 mm Bofors Mark V cannon in six twin mounts. However, during her wartime refit, one of her rear turrets was removed in exchange for more space and topweight available to mount four more single 40 mm Bofors Mark VII autocannons. The 40 mm Bofors is one of the best naval medium range anti-aircraft guns, both in real life and in the game, thus the Liverpool can quite effectively defend herself against air attack, especially with good aim under manual control. The Bofors guns can also be deadly to coastal craft that get within range.
 === Additional armament ===