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== Description ==
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|z_9w}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the missile.''

=== Effective damage ===
''Describe the type of damage produced by this type of missile (high explosive, splash damage, etc)''

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of missiles that have firepower equal to this weapon.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe situations when you would utilise this missile in-game (vehicle, pillbox, base, etc)''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
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== See also ==
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{{Missiles}}

[[Category:Suspended armaments]]

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 == General info ==
 <!-- ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the missile.'' -->
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! colspan="2" | Missile characteristics
 |-
-|'''Mass''' || 11.4 kg
+| '''Mass''' || 11.4 kg
 |-
-|'''Guidance''' || Semi-automatic (SACLOS)
+| '''Guidance''' || Semi-automatic (SACLOS)
 |-
-|'''Maximum speed''' || 250 m/s
+| '''Maximum speed''' || 250 m/s
 |-
-|'''Missile guidance time''' || 16 secs
+| '''Missile guidance time''' || 16 secs
 |-
-|'''Firing range''' || 3 km
+| '''Firing range''' || 3 km
 |-
-|'''Explosive mass''' || 2.04 kg TNTeq
+| '''Explosive mass''' || 2.01 kg TNTeq
 |-
-|'''Armour penetration''' || 590 mm
+| '''Armour penetration''' || 590 mm
 |-
 |}
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 {{main|HJ-8A}}
-Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996<ref>Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.</ref>; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and is slightly heavier than its predecessors.
+Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996<ref>Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.</ref>; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and is slightly heavier than its predecessors.
 == Media ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe situations when you would utilise this missile in-game (vehicle, pillbox, base, etc)'' -->
-By the time HJ-8C entered service, the missile itself was still lagged behind mainstreams of ATGMs at barely 600 mm penetration and rather slow flying speed, as well as the very suicidal 3 km firing range for helicopter (where MANPADS or autocannons will have no problem taking out HJ-8C's carrier out with ease); this will be the case in game as well and at its BR, players has to be extra careful on when and who to fire upon due to the aforementioned flaws. The good news is that HJ-8C is a tandem missile with sufficient penetration against tanks like T-64BV at higher impact angles even with its ERA equipped, but 590 mm is still relatively low to its counterparts albeit most of them are single-stage warheads. Plan ahead and strike enemies from where they wouldn't have expect or sneaking up on their flanks and make sure every shot counts as the explosive content is rather low which has to made every shots on enemies' critical components.
+By the time HJ-8C entered service, the missile itself was still lagged behind mainstreams of ATGMs at barely 600 mm penetration and rather slow flying speed, as well as the very suicidal 3 km firing range for helicopter (where MANPADS or autocannons will have no problem taking out HJ-8C's carrier out with ease). This will be the case in game as well and at its BR, players has to be extra careful with when and who to fire upon due to the aforementioned flaws. The HJ-8C is a tandem missile with sufficient penetration against tanks like T-64BV at higher impact angles even with its ERA equipped, but 590 mm is still relatively low to its counterparts albeit most of them are single-stage warheads. Plan ahead and strike enemies from where they wouldn't have expected or sneak up on their flanks and make sure every shot counts as the explosive content is rather low.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 == Description ==
-The HJ-8C (Chinese: 红箭-8C式反坦克导弹; renamed AFT08C after new nomenclature) is one of the variant of HJ-8 family ATGM with revised warhead with tandem probe; these missiles would be the go-to missile for PLAGF after its certification before being replaced by later HJ-8 with new guidance system and low-profile tripod.
+<!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 == General info ==
 {| class="wikitable"
-! colspan="2" |'''Missile characteristics'''
+! colspan="2" | Missile characteristics
 |-
-|'''Mass'''
+|'''Mass''' || 11.4 kg
 |-
-|'''Guidance'''
+|'''Guidance''' || Semi-automatic (SACLOS)
 |-
-|'''Maximum speed'''
+|'''Maximum speed''' || 250 m/s
 |-
-|'''Missile guidance time'''
+|'''Missile guidance time''' || 16 secs
 |-
-|'''Firing range'''
+|'''Firing range''' || 3 km
 |-
-|'''Explosive mass'''
+|'''Explosive mass''' || 2.04 kg TNTeq
-|2.04 kg TNTeq
+|-
 |-
 |}
 === Effective damage ===
 Like its predecessor, the HJ-8C does explosion damage upon hitting the surface of the vehicles. The jet stream of molten metal will also cause shrapnel damages to internal modules and crews of vehicles, alternatively the blast will cause overpressure damage to very light vehicles.
 === Comparison with analogues ===
+<!-- ''Give a comparative description of missiles that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
-* [[HJ-8A]] - HJ-8C's predecessors, outperformed in all aspects especially on penetration
+* [[HJ-8A]] - The HJ-8C's predecessor, outperformed in all aspects especially on penetration
-* [[BGM-71C I-TOW|BGM-71C]]- The later variant of TOW; HJ-8C still lags behind in most aspects, especially damage and range.
+* [[BGM-71C I-TOW]]- The later variant of TOW; HJ-8C still lags behind in most aspects, especially damage and range.
-* [[9M114 Shturm|9M114]] - Outperformed in most aspects especially in speed and range, while having even less penetration to HJ-8C
+* [[9M114 Shturm]] - Outperformed in most aspects especially in speed and range, while having even less penetration than the HJ-8C
 == Usage in battles ==
 By the time HJ-8C entered service, the missile itself was still lagged behind mainstreams of ATGMs at barely 600 mm penetration and rather slow flying speed, as well as the very suicidal 3 km firing range for helicopter (where MANPADS or autocannons will have no problem taking out HJ-8C's carrier out with ease); this will be the case in game as well and at its BR, players has to be extra careful on when and who to fire upon due to the aforementioned flaws. The good news is that HJ-8C is a tandem missile with sufficient penetration against tanks like T-64BV at higher impact angles even with its ERA equipped, but 590 mm is still relatively low to its counterparts albeit most of them are single-stage warheads. Plan ahead and strike enemies from where they wouldn't have expect or sneaking up on their flanks and make sure every shot counts as the explosive content is rather low which has to made every shots on enemies' critical components.
 === Pros and cons ===
 '''Pros:'''
 * Higher penetration than its predecessors with tandem warhead
-* Sufficiently large caliber for a missile
+* Sufficiently large calibre for a missile
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Still slower than its counterparts
 * Rather short firing range at 3 km
 == History ==
-'''See also: [[HJ-8A]]'''
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
-Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996<ref>Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.</ref>; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and slightly heavier than predecessors.
+Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996<ref>Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.</ref>; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and is slightly heavier than its predecessors.
 == Media ==