H-34 (France) - Revision history

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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
-''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''
+[[File:H-34 .png|thumb]]
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit. French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34's built in the U.S. along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under licence from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy, and Army Aviation (ALAT). Due to the ruggedness of the H-34, it had an impressive track record under French command in the Algerian War where it garnered over 190,000 flying hours evacuating French troops from combat locations, including many night-time operations.
+The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare; however, it has also seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit. French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34s built in the US, along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under license from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy, and Army Aviation (ALAT). Due to the ruggedness of the H-34, it had an impressive track record under French command in the Algerian War where it garnered over 190,000 flying hours evacuating French troops from combat locations, including many night-time operations.
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. Unlike other helicopters, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' has a very large size, this comes with severe drawbacks, being not agile at all and a very big target for enemy anti-aircraft fire. It is, however, quite fast, being able to consistently maintain 300 km/h in level flight. With no access to guided missiles, its bombs and rockets are the only way to consistently destroy enemy vehicles, this, paired with the large size of the H-34, translates into low chances of survival against enemy SPAA.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. Unlike other helicopters, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' has a very large size, which comes with severe drawbacks - it is not agile at all and a very big target for enemy anti-aircraft fire. It is, however, quite fast, being able to consistently maintain 300 km/h in level flight. With a range of armaments including bombs, rockets, and ATGMs, the H-34 has a variety of options for dealing with enemy armour; however, be wary of flying too close to enemy SPAA, as its sluggishness and lack of armour protection make it an excellent target.
 == General info ==

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 The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit. French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34's built in the U.S. along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under licence from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy, and Army Aviation (ALAT). Due to the ruggedness of the H-34, it had an impressive track record under French command in the Algerian War where it garnered over 190,000 flying hours evacuating French troops from combat locations, including many night-time operations.
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very interesting low tier helicopter in war thunder. Unlike other helicopters, it has a very large size, this comes with severe drawbacks, being that not agile at all and its large size means that it is a very big target for enemy anti aircraft fire. It is however, quite fast, being able to consistently maintain 300KM/h in level flight. With no access to guided missiles, its bombs and rockets are the only way to consistently destroy enemy vehicles, this, paired with the large size of the H-34, translates into low chances of survival against enemy SPAA.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. Unlike other helicopters, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' has a very large size, this comes with severe drawbacks, being not agile at all and a very big target for enemy anti-aircraft fire. It is, however, quite fast, being able to consistently maintain 300 km/h in level flight. With no access to guided missiles, its bombs and rockets are the only way to consistently destroy enemy vehicles, this, paired with the large size of the H-34, translates into low chances of survival against enemy SPAA.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
+The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit. French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34's built in the U.S. along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under licence from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy, and Army Aviation (ALAT). Due to the ruggedness of the H-34, it had an impressive track record under French command in the Algerian War where it garnered over 190,000 flying hours evacuating French troops from combat locations, including many night-time operations.
-The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very interesting low tier helicopter in war thunder. Unlike other helicopters, it has a very large size, this comes with severe drawbacks, being that not agile at all and its large size means that it is a very big target for enemy anti aircraft fire. It is however, quite fast, being able to consistently maintain 300KM/h in level flight. With no access to guided missiles, its bombs and rockets are the only way to consistently destroy enemy vehicles, this, paired with the large size of the H-34, translates into low chances of survival against enemy SPAA.
 == General info ==

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Surprisingly fast, able to maintain speeds in excess of 322 kph (200 mph) in level flight
+* Surprisingly fast, able to maintain speeds in excess of 322 km/h (200 mph) in level flight
 * Decent structural durability, though this isn't saying much
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 * Large size makes it a large target
 * Sluggish handling characteristics
-* Weak engine and rotor transmission durability – a few hits from light-caliber rounds can quickly destroy them
+* Weak engine and rotor transmission durability - a few hits from light-caliber rounds can quickly destroy them
 * Awkward HVAR rocket placement makes accurate aim tricky
 * Bomb loadout is inadequate against heavily armoured targets

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
-The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit.
+The Sikorsky H-34 was manufactured as a piston-engined military helicopter originally intended for anti-submarine warfare, however, it also has seen service as a medium transport helicopter and as a combat helicopter. This tail dragging helicopter has the radial reciprocating engine mounted in the nose of the aircraft, with the driveshaft traversing through the cockpit.
-Initial flight of this helicopter took place in March 1954 and the first to enter service with the U.S. Navy took place only six months later.  The U.S. Army and Marine Corps also placed orders for this helicopter in 1955 and 1957.  Other designations of this helicopter include SH-34, UH-34 and CH-34.  For transport purposes, this helicopter can be configured to carry between 12 to 16 troops or if utilized in the role of MedEvac, up to eight stretchers.
+The initial flight of this helicopter took place in March 1954 and the first to enter service with the U.S. Navy took place only six months later.  The U.S. Army and Marine Corps also placed orders for this helicopter in 1955 and 1957.  Other designations of this helicopter include SH-34, UH-34 and CH-34.  For transport purposes, this helicopter can be configured to carry between 12 and 16 troops or, if utilized in the role of MedEvac, up to eight stretchers.
-French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34's built in the U.S. along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under license from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy and Army Aviation (ALAT).
+French aviation company Sud-Aviation assembled a total of 135 H-34's built in the U.S. along with a total of 166 H-34s produced by Sud-Aviation under licence from Sikorsky for use in the French Air Force, Navy, and Army Aviation (ALAT).
 Due to the ruggedness of the H-34, it had an impressive track record under French command in the Algerian War where it garnered over 190,000 flying hours evacuating French troops from combat locations, including many nighttime operations.
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 {{main|Type 61C (50 kg)|AS.11|HVAR|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
-The helicopter's machine guns are mounted towards the nose of the helicopter in front of the landing gear struts. These machine guns can be loaded with one of four different ammo belts (Default, Universal, Tracers, and Stealth). However, owing to their small calibre, they are only effective for attacking very lightly armoured targets (< 10 mm maximum armour thickness), they have limited effectiveness against aircraft and are ultimately useless against armoured targets. Their relatively low rate of fire offers better aim controllability at the expense of total damage output.
+The helicopter's machine guns are mounted towards the nose of the helicopter, in front of the landing gear struts. These machine guns can be loaded with one of four different ammo belts (Default, Universal, Tracers, and Stealth). However, owing to their small calibre, they are only effective for attacking very lightly armoured targets (< 10 mm maximum armour thickness), they have limited effectiveness against aircraft and are ultimately useless against armoured targets. Their relatively low rate of fire offers better aim controllability at the expense of total damage output.
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 * Large size makes it a large target
 * Sluggish handling characteristics
-* Weak engine and rotor transmission durability - a few hits from light-caliber rounds can quickly destroy them
+* Weak engine and rotor transmission durability – a few hits from light-caliber rounds can quickly destroy them
 * Awkward HVAR rocket placement makes accurate aim tricky
 * Bomb loadout is inadequate against heavily armoured targets
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-The H-34 was developed in the early 1950s as the successor to the H-19 Chickasaw. The new helicopter was enlarged and was overall more powerful than its predecessor, yet still retained some of the core design elements, such as the nose-mounted radial engine under the cockpit.
+The H-34 was developed in the early 1950s as the successor to the H-19 Chickasaw. The new helicopter was enlarged and was overall more powerful than its predecessor, yet still retained some core design elements, such as the nose-mounted radial engine under the cockpit.
 The H-34 performed its maiden flight in March 1954 and was adopted into service shortly afterwards, first with the U.S. Navy in 1955 and then U.S. Army in 1956.
-However, the H-34 was also widely exported and built under licence by other nations. France was one of the earliest nations to adopt the H-34, with it entering service in 1956. France initially received a large number of American-built disassembled H-34s, which were then reassembled in France. Later on, the Sud-Aviation company acquired a licence to produce the H-34s locally. In the end, close to 300 French H-34s were built and used by the French forces. The vehicle was actively used during the war in Algeria, marking the first mass use of attack helicopters by the French army.
+However, the H-34 was also widely exported and built under licence by other nations. France was one of the earliest nations to adopt the H-34, with it entering service in 1956. France initially received numerous American-built disassembled H-34s, which were then reassembled in France. Later on, the Sud-Aviation company acquired a licence to produce the H-34s locally. In the end, close to 300 French H-34s were built and used by the French forces. The vehicle was actively used during the war in Algeria, marking the first mass use of attack helicopters by the French army.
 Of course, the H-34 Choctaw saw service with many more countries around the world and participated in numerous conflicts of the '50s and '60s. Although the helicopter was being phased out from military service with most operators by the 1970s, the H-34 (or S-58 if the civilian designation is used) is still being used for civilian operations today. In total, over 2,100 H-34s were built when taking into account all modifications of the type.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=h_34_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 * ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ;Related aircraft
 * Sikorsky [[H-34]] (USA)
 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
 * Mil [[Mi-4AV|Mi-4]] Hound

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 {{About
-| about = French utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+| about = utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = other version
+| usage = the other version
 | link = H-34
 }}
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 ;Images
-<gallery mode="packed" heights="200">
+<gallery mode="packed" heights="150">
 File:H-34 France WTWallpaper 001.jpg
 File:H-34 France WTWallpaper 002.jpg
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 <!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->

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 === Flight performance ===
 {{Specs-Heli-Flight}}
-''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
+<!-- ''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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 ! Stock
-| 183 || 170 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
+| 182 || 169 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| ___ || ___
+| 213 || 198
 |-
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 * 4 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns (250 rpg = 1,000 total) + 10 x 50 kg Type 61C bombs (500 kg total)
 In this configuration, the H-34 is equipped with ten 50 kg Type-61C bombs, with six bombs loaded onto external pylons on the sides of the helicopter, and four bombs mounted on rails below the fuselage. These bombs can destroy enemy armoured vehicles when dropped within 2 meters of the target. Their small explosive mass requires particularly careful aim in order to effectively strike at ground targets. However, care must still be taken in order to remain out of the 67 m fragmentation radius of these bombs in order to avoid splash damage to the helicopter itself.
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 * Weak engine and rotor transmission durability - a few hits from light-caliber rounds can quickly destroy them
 * Awkward HVAR rocket placement makes accurate aim tricky
-* Bomb loadout is inadequate against heavily armored targets
+* Bomb loadout is inadequate against heavily armoured targets
 == History ==

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 {{About
 | about = French utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = other version
 | link = H-34
 }}
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the helicopter, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the helicopter in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].
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 ! Stock
-| 183 || 170 || rowspan="2" | 6,000 <!-- {{Specs|ceiling}} -->
+| 183 || 170 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
 |-
 ! Upgraded
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 == Armaments ==
 {{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
-=== Offensive armament ===
+=== Suspended armament ===
-{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}
+{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}
-<!--''Describe the offensive armament of the helicopter, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, also what ammunition belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''-->
+<!-- ''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
+{{main|Type 61C (50 kg)|AS.11|HVAR|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
 The helicopter's machine guns are mounted towards the nose of the helicopter in front of the landing gear struts. These machine guns can be loaded with one of four different ammo belts (Default, Universal, Tracers, and Stealth). However, owing to their small calibre, they are only effective for attacking very lightly armoured targets (< 10 mm maximum armour thickness), they have limited effectiveness against aircraft and are ultimately useless against armoured targets. Their relatively low rate of fire offers better aim controllability at the expense of total damage output.
-;Option 1:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
-* 2 x AS.11 missiles
+* 4 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns (250 rpg = 1,000 total) + 2 x AS.11 missiles + 6 x HVAR rockets
 In this configuration, the H-34 is equipped with two AS.11 ATGM pylons mounted alongside the nose of the aircraft, along with six HVAR unguided rockets mounted on a vertical rail on the left side of the helicopter.
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 A far more effective weapon versus armoured targets, the helicopter's two AS.11 ATGM's with their 600 mm of armour penetration can easily damage and destroy enemy tanks and other armoured targets with a well-placed hit. However, this helicopter can only carry two of these missiles at a time, the smallest ATGM loadout of any helicopter in the game, which severely limits the helicopter's combat potential.
-;Option 2:
+* 4 x 7.62 mm Browning machine guns (250 rpg = 1,000 total) + 10 x 50 kg Type 61C bombs (500 kg total)
 * 10 x 50 kg Type 61C Bombs
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 == Usage in battles ==
 ''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 === Pros and cons ===
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 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 ;Images
-<gallery mode="packed" heights="150px">
+<gallery mode="packed" heights="200">
 File:H-34 France WTWallpaper 001.jpg
 File:H-34 France WTWallpaper 002.jpg