FlaK38 (20 mm) - Revision history

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 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This mixed belt can be reliable against both aircraft and open-topped or lightly armoured vehicles like SPAA.
 * '''Sprgr.:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This belt is only useful for fighting planes or lightly armoured/open topped vehicles.
-* '''PzGr:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt offers a good transition from the ''Default'' to the ''PzGr 40'' APCR belt. The round offers decent use and damage against lightly armoured tanks, especially at close range. Due to lack of high-explosive filler however, it is better to focus on the ''PzGr 40'' belt to maximize penetration power.
+* '''PzGr.:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt offers a good transition from the ''Default'' to the ''PzGr 40'' APCR belt. The round offers decent use and damage against lightly armoured tanks, especially at close range. Due to lack of high-explosive filler however, it is better to focus on the ''PzGr 40'' belt to maximize penetration power.
-* '''PzGr 40:''' {{Annotation|HVAP-T|High-velocity armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt is best for fighting tanks. While the damage effects post-penetration are quite poor, the rapid-fire from the autocannon will wreck most tanks at this BR. In close combat, these shells should be used against modules and crew members to make the most of each shell. Against angled armour however, the APCR ammo may not be very effective.
+* '''PzGr.40:''' {{Annotation|HVAP-T|High-velocity armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt is best for fighting tanks. While the damage effects post-penetration are quite poor, the rapid-fire from the autocannon will wreck most tanks at this BR. In close combat, these shells should be used against modules and crew members to make the most of each shell. Against angled armour however, the APCR ammo may not be very effective.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|HEFI-T*, API-T, HVAP-T}}
 === Comparison with analogues ===

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 == Media ==
 ;Images
-<gallery mode="packed-hover"  heights="x250px">
+<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="x250px">
 File:Weapon FlaK38 (20 mm) breech.png|<small>The FlaK38 (20 mm) breech in the Sd.Kfz.234/3.</small>
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+;Images
 == See also ==

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 == Description ==
-''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''
+<!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 == General info ==
 <!-- ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' -->
-The '''Flak38 (20 mm)''' is a very impressive autocannon, having an extremely good fire rate, and a good selection of belt types. It can be used to fight both air and ground target. The HEFI-T rounds will take planes down with a few shots, while HVAP-T has high penetrating power, enough to deal with most tanks at its BR. Although the HVAP-T rounds' post-penetration damage is poor, it makes up for that with its amazing fire rate.
+The 20 mm FlaK38 is a very impressive autocannon, having an extremely good fire rate, and a good selection of belt types. It can be used to fight both air and ground target. The HEFI-T rounds will take planes down with a few shots, while HVAP-T has high penetrating power, enough to deal with most tanks at its BR. Although the HVAP-T rounds' post-penetration damage is poor, it makes up for that with its amazing fire rate.
 === Available ammunition ===
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 * [[KwK30 (20 mm)]]
 * [[KwK38 (20 mm)]]
-* [[Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)]]
+* [[20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)]]
 == Usage in battles ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
-The Treaty of Versailles after World War I prevented Germany from developing anti-aircraft guns. As a result, German companies such as Rheinmetall bought shares or set up subsidiaries in Sweden or other nations to get around the restriction. The FlaK38 is a product of exploiting this loophole. Beginning life as the Swiss Solothurn ST-5 which was adopted by the Kriegsmarine (Germany Navy) as the [[2 cm/65 C/30 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 C/30]], it was prone to jamming and had only 20 rounds in a magazine. The Heer (German Army) would also adopt the C/30 as the FlaK 30 that could be dropped off a two-wheeled carriage and leveled with cranks to serve in combat as an anti-aircraft weapon. The Heer also adapted the gun for the [[Pz.II C]] as the [[KwK30 (20 mm)|KwK30]]. Due to the low rate of fire of 120 rpm, the design was upgraded by Rheinmetall in 1938 creating the FlaK38. This variant was lighter but also fired at a rate of 220 rpm. This new model was accepted into service in 1939 and soon followed by a mounted variant for the [[Pz.II F]] called the [[KwK38 (20 mm)|KwK38]]. The FlaK38 would be the Heer's main anti-aircraft gun for most of the war and after the Battle of France, where the Germans recognized the need for a self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle. They developed the [[Flakpanzer I]] and [[Flakpanzer 38]] by mounting the FlaK38 on the chassis of obsolete tank designs in the form of the Panzer I and [[Pz.38(t) A|Pz.38(t)]] along with more modern designs based on half-tracks and [[Pz.IV (Family)|Pz.IV]] designs such as the Modelwagen. One of the most unique variants of the FlaK38 called the Flakvierling was a quad-mount developed to counter the increasing speeds of enemy aircraft by volume of fire. Along with use on half-tracks and trucks and in the Kriegsmarine as the [[2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38]], it was the armament of the Panzer IV-based [[Wirbelwind]]. The Wirbelwind (German for Whirlwind) mounted the Flakvierling in an open-topped turret due to the gases produced by the guns. The Flakvierling 38 was also notably mounted on Hitler's private train.
+The Treaty of Versailles after World War I prevented Germany from developing anti-aircraft guns. As a result, German companies such as Rheinmetall bought shares or set up subsidiaries in Sweden or other nations to get around the restriction. The FlaK38 is a product of exploiting this loophole. Beginning life as the Swiss Solothurn ST-5 which was adopted by the Kriegsmarine (Germany Navy) as the [[2 cm/65 C/30 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 C/30]], it was prone to jamming and had only 20 rounds in a magazine. The Heer (German Army) would also adopt the C/30 as the FlaK30 that could be dropped off a two-wheeled carriage and leveled with cranks to serve in combat as an anti-aircraft weapon. The Heer also adapted the gun for the [[Pz.II C]] as the [[KwK30 (20 mm)|KwK30]]. Due to the low rate of fire of 120 rpm, the design was upgraded by Rheinmetall in 1938 creating the FlaK38. This variant was lighter but also fired at a rate of 220 rpm. This new model was accepted into service in 1939 and soon followed by a mounted variant for the [[Pz.II F]] called the [[KwK38 (20 mm)|KwK38]]. The FlaK38 would be the Heer's main anti-aircraft gun for most of the war and after the Battle of France, where the Germans recognized the need for a self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle. They developed the [[Flakpanzer I]] and [[Flakpanzer 38]] by mounting the FlaK38 on the chassis of obsolete tank designs in the form of the Panzer I and [[Pz.38(t) A|Pz.38(t)]] along with more modern designs based on half-tracks and [[Pz.IV (Family)|Pz.IV]] designs such as the Modelwagen. One of the most unique variants of the FlaK38 called the Flakvierling was a quad-mount developed to counter the increasing speeds of enemy aircraft by volume of fire. Along with use on half-tracks and trucks and in the Kriegsmarine as the [[2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38]], it was the armament of the Panzer IV-based [[Wirbelwind]]. The Wirbelwind (German for Whirlwind) mounted the Flakvierling in an open-topped turret due to the gases produced by the guns. The Flakvierling 38 was also notably mounted on Hitler's private train.
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 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
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 == External links ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
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 == History ==
-The Treaty of Versailles after World War I prevented Germany from developing anti-aircraft guns. As a result, German companies such as Rheinmetall bought shares or set up subsidiaries in Sweden or other nations to get around the restriction. The FlaK 38 is a product of exploiting this loophole. Beginning life as the Solothurn ST-5 which was adopted by the Kriegsmarine (Germany Navy) as the [[2 cm/65 C/30 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 C/30]]. However, the design was prone to jamming and had only 20 rounds in a magazine. The Heer (Germany Army) would also adopt the C/30 as the FlaK 30 that could be dropped off a two-wheeled carriage and leveled with cranks to serve in combat as an anti-aircraft weapon. The Heer also adapted the gun for the [[Pz.II C]] as the [[KwK30 (20 mm)|KwK30]]. Due to the low rate of fire of 120rpm, the design was upgraded by Rheinmetall in 1938 creating the FlaK 38. This variant was lighter but also fired at a rate of fire of 220 rpm this new model was accepted into service in 1939 and soon followed with a mounted variant for the [[Pz.II F]] called the [[KwK38 (20 mm)|KwK38]]. The FlaK 38 would be the Heer's main anti-aircraft gun for most of the war and after the Battle of France, where the Germans recognized the need for a self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle, they developed the [[Flakpanzer I]] and [[Flakpanzer 38]] by mounted the FlaK 38 on the chassis of obsolete tank designs in the form of the Panzer I and [[Pz.38(t) A|Pz.38(t)]] along with more modern designs based on half-tracks such as halftracks and [[Pz.IV (Family)|Pz.IV]] designs such as the Modelwagen. One of the most unique variants of the FlaK 38 called the Flakvierling which is a quad-mount developed to counter the increasing speeds of enemy aircraft by volume of fire. Along with use on half-tracks and trucks and in the Kreigsmarine as the [[2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38]]. It was the armament of the Panzer IV-based [[Wirbelwind]]. The Wirbelwind (German for Whirlwind) mounted the Flakvierling in an open-topped turret due to the gases produced by the guns. The Flakvierling 38 is also notably mounted on Hitler's private train.
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.'' -->
-The FlaK38 (20 mm) is a very versatile cannon. With its high fire rate and access to HEFI-T rounds, taking planes down will be an easy task. It can also be utilized to fight ground vehicles, as the HVAP-T can penetrate 64 mm of armour at point-blank range. Although the post-penetration damage is poor, the high fire rate makes up for this fault.
+The FlaK38 is a very versatile cannon. With its high fire rate and access to HEFI-T rounds, taking planes down will be an easy task. It can also be utilized to fight ground vehicles, as the HVAP-T can penetrate 48 mm of armour at point-blank range. Although the post-penetration damage is poor, the high fire rate makes up for this fault.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Very high fire rate, will take down planes very quickly
 * Can fight ground vehicles
-* 64 mm of penetration with the HVAP-T round
+* 48 mm of penetration with the HVAP-T round
 '''Cons:'''

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 === Available ammunition ===
 <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' -->
-* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}} - Half of the shells (HEFI-T) are useless against tanks while the other 50% (API-T) is useless against planes. However, this belt is reliable against open-topped or lightly armoured vehicles like SPAA.
+* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This mixed belt can be reliable against both aircraft and open-topped or lightly armoured vehicles like SPAA.
-* '''Sprgr.:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}} - This belt is only useful for fighting planes or lightly armoured/open topped vehicles.
+* '''Sprgr.:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}} - This belt is only useful for fighting planes or lightly armoured/open topped vehicles.
 * '''PzGr:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt offers a good transition from the ''Default'' to the ''PzGr 40'' APCR belt. The round offers decent use and damage against lightly armoured tanks, especially at close range. Due to lack of high-explosive filler however, it is better to focus on the ''PzGr 40'' belt to maximize penetration power.
 * '''PzGr 40:''' {{Annotation|HVAP-T|High-velocity armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}} - This belt is best for fighting tanks. While the damage effects post-penetration are quite poor, the rapid-fire from the autocannon will wreck most tanks at this BR. In close combat, these shells should be used against modules and crew members to make the most of each shell. Against angled armour however, the APCR ammo may not be very effective.
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 ! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
 |-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-| Default || 36 || 34 || 26 || 19 || 14 || 10
+| Default || 37 || 34 || 23 || 14 || 9 || 6
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 | Sprgr. || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2
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-| PzGr || 36 || 34 || 26 || 19 || 14 || 10
+| PzGr || 37 || 34 || 23 || 14 || 9 || 6
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-| PzGr 40 || 64 || 63 || 26 || 19 || 14 || 10
+| PzGr 40 || 48 || 45 || 31 || 20 || 13 || 8
 |-
 |}
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-''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

FlaK38 (20 mm) - Revision history

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