FIAT 6614 - Revision history

U28580205 at 03:00, 5 February 2024

2024-02-05T03:00:53Z

U42773747: Tried to make the page better, particularly for AB. I kinda broke my 3-picture-per-gallery rule, but it seemed appropriate. I did not check grammar of my own nor previous writer too much.

2024-02-03T17:19:34Z

Tried to make the page better, particularly for AB. I kinda broke my 3-picture-per-gallery rule, but it seemed appropriate. I did not check grammar of my own nor previous writer too much.

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U44629479: Undo revision 170177 by U146707418 (talk)

2023-08-29T05:21:14Z

Undo revision 170177 by U146707418 (talk)

U146707418: This doesn't make sense, this vehicle isn't amphibious, this means it can't shoot while it is drowning. so i can just add this to most vehicles!

2023-08-29T02:17:53Z

This doesn't make sense, this vehicle isn't amphibious, this means it can't shoot while it is drowning. so i can just add this to most vehicles!

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-04-23T20:42:41Z

‎Description

U31139476 at 16:26, 17 April 2023

2023-04-17T16:26:56Z

U31139476: Added Description

2023-04-17T16:25:10Z

Added Description

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-01-24T19:59:19Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U38088265: /* Mobility / / Ammunition */ Updated

2022-09-17T14:11:43Z

‎Mobility: ‎Ammunition: Updated

U44629479: Edits

2022-09-09T13:42:11Z

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 ;Overall
-The FIAT is a light tank destroyer with extremely potent anti-tank grenades that are almost guaranteed to slice through any armoured foe. Putting it on a frontline is a risk, as it's armour is not going to stop anything heavier than 7.62 mm machine gun fire, so striking from the shadows or taking over a fortified position are the best options. One of the main upsides is that you don't have an actual gunner who exposes themselves to fire, meaning all you have to do is find a great position and remain hull-down. Getting to said position is fairly easy if you are on a map with easily accessible roads. The FIAT 6614 will manage to reach its top speed and overtake most of the vehicles at its battle rating, use your speed to your absolute advantage.
+The FIAT is a light tank destroyer with extremely potent anti-tank grenades that are almost guaranteed to slice through any armoured foe. Putting it on a frontline is a risk, as its armour is not going to stop anything heavier than 7.62 mm machine gun fire, so striking from the shadows or taking over a fortified position are the best options. One of the main upsides is that you don't have an actual gunner who exposes themselves to fire, meaning all you have to do is find a great position and remain hull-down. Getting to said position is fairly easy if you are on a map with easily accessible roads. The FIAT 6614 will manage to reach its top speed and overtake most of the vehicles at its battle rating, use your speed to your absolute advantage.
 Another great feature that the FIAT 6614 has access to is the scouting mechanic. Scouting will allow you to earn even more points, whilst also providing great intel for your teammates to take advantage of. Due to the excellent penetration of the both HEAT and HESH rounds, this tank destroyer is best played pointing and shooting at the target, not minding weak spots, especially due to the overpressure damage mechanic.
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 * The gun mounting allows car to hide the entire hull behind cover while still having the gun above cover, making it virtually immune to all but overpressure damage
 ** Small target, easy to hide
-* Unlike other italian alternatives at the BR, it has perfectly accurate gun with lethal shells
+* Unlike other Italian alternatives, it has perfectly accurate gun with lethal shells
 ** 106 mm HESH can knock out most enemy vehicles with a single shot, except some heavy tanks
-** 106 mm HEATFS is capable of frontally penetrating all tanks at its BR
+** 106 mm HEATFS is capable of frontally penetrating all contemporary tanks
 * 360-degree turret traverse unlike other recoilless rifle tanks
 * Is amphibious

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 * Very thin armour, vulnerable to machine gun fire, artillery and strafing by aircraft
 * Bad off-road speed
 == History ==

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 * Very thin armour, vulnerable to machine gun fire, artillery and strafing by aircraft
 * Bad off-road speed
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The FIAT 6614 is an APC created by Fiat and OTO Melara together, in the post-war period Italy needed light vehicles that could be deployed quickly, and give support to the troops at the front the FIAT 6614 had all the requirements for this it was chosen both for the military role but also for the para-military role, the prototype was built in 1972, in which it underwent several modifications, FIAT was in charge of the engine and locomotive components while OTO MELARA was in charge of the armament and hull, the FIAT 6614 had the IVECO 8062.24 diesel engine that allowed the vehicle to reach 100 km/h, and the hull allowed it to carry between 3 to 10 soldiers, another interesting aspect was the ability of the vehicle, one of the prototypes produced will use the 106 mm cannon M40A1 recoilless rifle was presented to the Italian army but was never adopted for the simple reason that the army had better vehicles than the FIAT 6614 with the 106 mm, already in service or moreover the 106 mm cannon was becoming increasingly obsolete
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-In the game the FIAT 6614 was added with the Italian ground tech tree in the [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"|1.85 "Supersonic" update]], it is a good light tank thanks to its top speed of 100 km/h you can already flank the enemy or position yourself in good places to surprise attack the enemy, which thanks to its 106mm equipped with HEAT and HESH can penetrate any target with HEAT, instead to destroy with a single shot the enemy you can use the HESH thanks to its explosive mass, instead with the possibility to use it in the amphibious mode you can also pass over a river or a small lake to outflank the enemy.
+Introduced along with the Italian ground tech tree in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]], the FIAT 6614 is a good light tank; thanks to its top speed of 100 km/h, you can easily flank the enemy or find good positions for a surprise attack, while the 106 mm recoilless rifle can penetrate any target with HEAT, or use the large explosive mass of the HESH shell. With its amphibious capabilities, you can also utilise rivers or lakes to outflank the enemy.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The FIAT 6614 is an APC created by Fiat and OTO Melara together, in the post-war period Italy needed light vehicles that could be deployed quickly, and give support to the troops at the front the FIAT 6614 had all the requirements for this it was chosen both for the military role but also for the para-military role, the prototype was built in 1972, in which it underwent several modifications, FIAT was in charge of the engine and locomotive components while OTO MELARA was in charge of the armament and hull, the FIAT 6614 had the IVECO 8062.24 diesel engine that allowed the vehicle to reach 100 km/h, and the hull allowed it to carry between 3 to 10 soldiers, another interesting aspect was the ability of the vehicle, one of the prototypes produced will use the 106 mm cannon M40A1 recoilless rifle was presented to the Italian army but was never adopted for the simple reason that the army had better vehicles than the FIAT 6614 with the 106 mm, already in service or moreover the 106 mm cannon was becoming increasingly obsolete
 In the game the FIAT 6614 was added with the Italian ground tech tree in the [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"|1.85 "Supersonic" update]], it is a good light tank thanks to its top speed of 100 km/h you can already flank the enemy or position yourself in good places to surprise attack the enemy, which thanks to its 106mm equipped with HEAT and HESH can penetrate any target with HEAT, instead to destroy with a single shot the enemy you can use the HESH thanks to its explosive mass, instead with the possibility to use it in the amphibious mode you can also pass over a river or a small lake to outflank the enemy.

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:Cannone da 106 s.r.M40A1 (106 mm)/Ammunition|M344A1, M361A1}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=225|rbMinHp=128}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=248|rbMinHp=142}}
 The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility is very good. The fastest speeds it can reach will depend on the terrain: on a track like the ones on Sinai, the {{PAGENAME}} can easily reach 60 or 70 km/h, and driving on an actual road or going downhill it will reach the 80s or 90s; but on a grassy field, it may only reach up to 45 km/h. Due to the {{PAGENAME}} being a wheeled car, going through sand, snow or a small uphill will trickle away its speed. The wheeled construction means the FIAT also cannot neutral steer, but it does have a small turning circle (tank-sized) and it can turn in this circle at 23 km/h.
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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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-| M344A1 || HEAT || 502 || 10 || 0 || 0.01 || 1,650 || 65° || 72° || 77°
+| M344A1 || HEAT || 503 || 7.96 || 0 || 0.01 || 1,650 || 65° || 72° || 77°
 |-
-| M361A1 || HESH || 498 || 10 || 0.1 || 4 || 5,040 || 73° || 77° || 80°
+| M361A1 || HESH || 498 || 7.95 || 0.1 || 4 || 5,040 || 73° || 77° || 80°
 |-
 |}

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 The average effective thickness changes depending on where the {{PAGENAME}} is shot from. At the front, it ranges from 15-20 mm thick, although the front-facing window of the driver's hatch does only give 9 mm of armour between a machine gun round and the driver. While a 7.62 mm round will only penetrate at close range, a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun round will only fail to penetrate that window at over a kilometre away. Considering the car's most valuable advantage is its ability to get to good positions fast, an incapacitated driver will ruin the {{PAGENAME}}'s chances in the match.
-The side's obvious weak spots are the grills near the front that are only 5mm thick. Considering that the vehicle has a hexagon-shaped cross-section if sliced from left to right, the upper plate of the slanted side offers 9 mm of protection after the grill and 10-12mm around and in front of the grill. The lower side plate gives a whole new world of armour with a minimum thickness of 10mm everywhere, which means at least the 7.62 mm machine guns can't penetrate the car through there. The doors have the same thickness as the rest of the sides.
+The side's obvious weak spots are the grills near the front that are only 5 mm thick. Considering that the vehicle has a hexagon-shaped cross-section if sliced from left to right, the upper plate of the slanted side offers 9 mm of protection after the grill and 10-12 mm around and in front of the grill. The lower side plate gives a whole new world of armour with a minimum thickness of 10 mm everywhere, which means at least the 7.62 mm machine guns can't penetrate the car through there. The doors have the same thickness as the rest of the sides.
 On the back, there's one slanted plate that is 8 mm at the top which increases to 14 mm at the bottom. Again, like the sides, the door doesn't have a different thickness. Also, the gun is very easy to disable as it has a maximum effective thickness of 88 mm, which all tanks at this BR will be able to penetrate and disable in one shot.
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 {{tankMobility|abMinHp=225|rbMinHp=128}}
-The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility is very good. The fastest speeds it can reach will depend on the terrain: on a track like the ones on Sinai, the {{PAGENAME}} can easily reach 60 or 70 km/h, and driving on an actual road or going downhill it will reach the 80's or 90's; but on a grassy field, it may only reach up to 45 km/h. Due to the {{PAGENAME}} being a wheeled car, going through sand, snow or a small uphill will trickle away its speed. The wheeled construction means the FIAT also cannot neutral steer, but it does have a small turning circle (tank-sized) and it can turn in this circle at 23 km/h.
+The {{PAGENAME}}'s mobility is very good. The fastest speeds it can reach will depend on the terrain: on a track like the ones on Sinai, the {{PAGENAME}} can easily reach 60 or 70 km/h, and driving on an actual road or going downhill it will reach the 80s or 90s; but on a grassy field, it may only reach up to 45 km/h. Due to the {{PAGENAME}} being a wheeled car, going through sand, snow or a small uphill will trickle away its speed. The wheeled construction means the FIAT also cannot neutral steer, but it does have a small turning circle (tank-sized) and it can turn in this circle at 23 km/h.
 When reversing the {{PAGENAME}} has good acceleration as well, reaching -10 km/h after about 3 seconds and will get to -20 by the fourth second.
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 |}
-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * Rounds are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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 Ground RB/SB/AB
-The FIAT is a light tank destroyer with extremely potent anti-tank grenades that are almost guaranteed to slice through any armoured foe. Never put yourself on the front lines as your armour is not up to the task against anything heavier than .30 calibre machine gun fire, so striking from the shadows is the best option. One of the main upsides is that you don't have an actual gunner who exposes themselves to fire, meaning all you have to do is find a great position and remain hull-down. Getting to said position is fairly easy if you are on a map with easily accessible roads. The FIAT 6614 will manage to reach its top speed and overtake most of the vehicles at its battle rating, use your speed to your absolute advantage, with the FIAT 6614, to maximize your effectiveness on the battlefield, you need to be in places were regular enemies won't suspect vehicles to be shot at from. Another great feature that the FIAT 6614 has access to is the scouting mechanic. Scouting will allow you to earn even more points, whilst also providing great intel for your teammates to take advantage of. Due to the excellent penetration of the both HEAT and HESH rounds, this tank destroyer is best played pointing and shooting at the target, not minding weak spots, especially due to the overpressure damage mechanic. Although some tanks will be able to survive one or two shots, generally speaking you should make quick work of anyone you encounter. If you get spotted, you should quickly disengage and move to a new spot where enemies will again not suspect you shooting from, to disengage you can use smoke grenades to cover your retreat for a short while. Always remember to stay at a safe distance, as previously mentioned you wont be able to withstand much, if anything. You'll be at the mercy of artillery strikes and enemy aircraft. It's recommended to take cover inside a building or behind a natural obstacle that will protect you from such threats. Also keep in mind that in Arcade Battles, enemies can easily find out where you are located with the nametag and are able to quickly find out where your weak spots are.
+The FIAT is a light tank destroyer with extremely potent anti-tank grenades that are almost guaranteed to slice through any armoured foe. Never put yourself on the front lines as your armour is not up to the task against anything heavier than .30 calibre machine gun fire, so striking from the shadows is the best option. One of the main upsides is that you don't have an actual gunner who exposes themselves to fire, meaning all you have to do is find a great position and remain hull-down. Getting to said position is fairly easy if you are on a map with easily accessible roads. The FIAT 6614 will manage to reach its top speed and overtake most of the vehicles at its battle rating, use your speed to your absolute advantage, with the FIAT 6614, to maximize your effectiveness on the battlefield, you need to be in places were regular enemies won't suspect vehicles to be shot at from. Another great feature that the FIAT 6614 has access to is the scouting mechanic. Scouting will allow you to earn even more points, whilst also providing great intel for your teammates to take advantage of. Due to the excellent penetration of the both HEAT and HESH rounds, this tank destroyer is best played pointing and shooting at the target, not minding weak spots, especially due to the overpressure damage mechanic. Although some tanks will be able to survive one or two shots, generally speaking you should make quick work of anyone you encounter. If you get spotted, you should quickly disengage and move to a new spot where enemies will again not suspect you shooting from, to disengage you can use smoke grenades to cover your retreat for a short while. Always remember to stay at a safe distance, as previously mentioned you won't be able to withstand much, if anything. You'll be at the mercy of artillery strikes and enemy aircraft. It's recommended to take cover inside a building or behind a natural obstacle that will protect you from such threats. Also keep in mind that in Arcade Battles, enemies can easily find out where you are located with the nametag and are able to quickly find out where your weak spots are.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 This FIAT 6614 is a further development prototype for anti heavy armoured target purposes by mounting a 106 mm M40A1 recoilless rifle forward of the commander's position on the turret roof. It was only a one-off, as far as we know of, which members of the Italian military would use to evaluate its effectiveness on the field. Ultimately it wasn't picked up due to other vehicles in the Italian army being much better candidates, and also due to the M40A1 recoilless rifle getting more and more obsolete. It was able to fire M40A1 standard munitions, such as HEAT and HESH, and the rounds would be stored near the backside of the vehicle.
-In terms of service, the Italian Fiat 6614 is still technically in service, inside of the 'Polizia di Stato' (State police), mainly used for riot control and during natural disasters where its amphibious abilities can come in handy. Other times it was used would be when the Italian Army deployed a number of Fiat 6614's to Bosnia and Somalia, for safekeeping. They had a huge success in the export market, one of the biggest successes being in the South Korean army. The Fiat 6614 would be license produced in South Korea, where it was widely used, although as of now it's said they've completely gone out of service. The South Korean Fiat 6614 is known as the KM900, while locally introduced variants, known as the KM901 can include an armoured ambulance, mortar carriers, and command vehicles. Other countries still using it to this day include Libya, Somalia, Tunisia, Argentina, Venezuela, and Peru. Fiat 6616 also known as 'Autoblinda 1974' ([[AUBL/74]]) is a further development model of the Fiat 6614, after OTO Melara and Fiat engineers started experimenting on up-arming the Fiat 6614.
+In terms of service, the Italian Fiat 6614 is still technically in service, inside of the 'Polizia di Stato' (State police), mainly used for riot control and during natural disasters where its amphibious abilities can come in handy. Other times it was used would be when the Italian Army deployed a number of Fiat 6614's to Bosnia and Somalia, for safekeeping. They had a huge success in the export market, one of the biggest successes being in the South Korean army. The Fiat 6614 would be license produced in South Korea, where it was widely used, although as of 2022 it's said they've completely gone out of service. The South Korean Fiat 6614 is known as the KM900, while locally introduced variants, known as the KM901 can include an armoured ambulance, mortar carriers, and command vehicles. Other countries still using it to this day include Libya, Somalia, Tunisia, Argentina, Venezuela, and Peru. Fiat 6616 also known as 'Autoblinda 1974' ([[AUBL/74]]) is a further development model of the Fiat 6614, after OTO Melara and Fiat engineers started experimenting on up-arming the Fiat 6614.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=light_tank&vehicle=it_fiat_6614_106sr Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_fiat_6614_106sr Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos