F8F-1B (France) - Revision history

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-Shortly after WWII, France was in dire need of relatively modern military equipment, since conflicts in their colonies started to become more and more violent. Many allied nations like the US and Great Britain supplied France with the surplus of military vehicles left after WWII, like M4 Shermans, Spitfires and other vehicles. The '''F8F-1B Bearcat''' was one of this aircrafts, designed with the lessons learned during the Battle of Midway, it was developed too late to enter WWII. 200 of this fighters were sent to France, even though they were already obsolete for 1951, they were enough to deal with small groups of guerrilla fighters like the Viet Minh, because this rebels did not have access to any kind of air force, the Bearcats were used only in Close Air Support.
+Shortly after WWII, France was in dire need of relatively modern military equipment, since conflicts in their colonies started to become more and more violent. Many allied nations like the US and Great Britain supplied France with surplus military vehicles left after WWII, like M4 Shermans, Spitfires, and other vehicles. The '''F8F-1B Bearcat''' was one of these aircraft, designed with the lessons learned during the Battle of Midway, it was developed too late to enter WWII. 200 were sent to France; even though they were already obsolete for 1951, they were enough to deal with small groups of guerrilla fighters like the Viet Minh, because they did not have access to any kind of air force. The Bearcats were used only in close air support.
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very competent multirole fighter, with the ability to carry a large payload of bombs and rockets while still being competitive in air to air combat. It uses the same engine as the F6F-5 but in a much lighter airframe, which translates into a higher top speed and much better rate of climb, being the better in this sense when compared to all previous airborne fighters of the US, like the F4F and F6F, or even the F-4U Corsair. In air battles, a good idea is climbing to high altitude at the start of the match, to then dive into unsuspected enemies or intercept aircrafts climbing slower than you, since the Bearcat uses 20mm cannons instead of conventional 12.7mm HMGs, it is better suited to deal with enemy large enemy bombers.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very competent multirole fighter, with the ability to carry a large payload of bombs and rockets while still being competitive in air to air combat. It uses the same engine as the F6F-5 but in a much lighter airframe, which translates into a higher top speed and much better rate of climb, being better in this sense than all previous carrier-borne fighters of the US, like the F4F and F6F, or even the F-4U Corsair. In air battles, a good idea is climbing to high altitude at the start of the match, then diving into unsuspecting enemies or intercepting aircraft climbing slower than you. Since the Bearcat uses 20 mm cannons instead of conventional 12.7 mm HMGs, it is also better suited to dealing with large enemy bombers.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French naval fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
+Shortly after WWII, France was in dire need of relatively modern military equipment, since conflicts in their colonies started to become more and more violent. Many allied nations like the US and Great Britain supplied France with the surplus of military vehicles left after WWII, like M4 Shermans, Spitfires and other vehicles. The '''F8F-1B Bearcat''' was one of this aircrafts, designed with the lessons learned during the Battle of Midway, it was developed too late to enter WWII. 200 of this fighters were sent to France, even though they were already obsolete for 1951, they were enough to deal with small groups of guerrilla fighters like the Viet Minh, because this rebels did not have access to any kind of air force, the Bearcats were used only in Close Air Support.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 4 x HVAR rockets

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 4 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns (340 rpg = 1,360 total)
+* 4 x HVAR rockets
 * 2 x Tiny Tim rockets
-* 4 x HVAR rockets
+* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 3 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
 * 2 x M116A2 incendiary bombs
 == Usage in battles ==

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 Regarding weaponry, fire in very short bursts with the M3 20mm because they will jam rather quickly. The most ideal belt is Air Targets, as the belt has - together with the stealth belt, but the Air Targets belt has instead of a practice shell an API-T shell - the most HEF-I shells.
-In RB, the F8F-1B is a monster. It possesses a fantastic climb rate, roll rate, high-capacity armament, and flight performance. Top speed and level speed are top notch in this aircraft, as is the dive-speed tolerance (~800 kph). Unfortunately, this power comes at a great price. Called the "Ovencat" by some players, the F8F-1B's engine will overheat in less than a minute while utilizing WEP. It is not recommended for any pilot to use WEP UNTIL unlocking the "Radiator" modification!. Therefore, always side-climb at the beginning of a match as the 1B needs all the energy it can get, especially when facing opponents such as the FW-190 D which can out-climb an F8F-1B in continuous climb due to the lower thermal restraints of its Junkers engine.
+In RB, the F8F-1B is a monster. It possesses a fantastic climb rate, roll rate, high-capacity armament, and flight performance. Top speed and level speed are top notch in this aircraft, as is the dive-speed tolerance (~800 km/h). Unfortunately, this power comes at a great price. Called the "Ovencat" by some players, the F8F-1B's engine will overheat in less than a minute while utilizing WEP. It is not recommended for any pilot to use WEP UNTIL unlocking the "Radiator" modification!. Therefore, always side-climb at the beginning of a match as the 1B needs all the energy it can get, especially when facing opponents such as the FW-190 D which can out-climb an F8F-1B in continuous climb due to the lower thermal restraints of its Junkers engine.
 The F8F-1B suffers at altitudes over 6,500 m. Below that, of course, utilize Boom & Zoom as your main tactic. Acceleration is magnificent as is dive speed. You will find it rather difficult to rip your wings in a dive. Careful not to push the Bearcat too far, though, as rolling manoeuvres and fast-paced moves can easily rip its wings.

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 | < 465 || < 466 || < 600 || > 460
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR|Tiny Tim|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
+{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|M116A2 incendiary}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * 1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 3 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
 == Usage in battles ==

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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=f8f1b_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f8f1b_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=f8f1b_france
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
 }}

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=f8f1b_france
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_F8F-1BFrance.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
 }}
 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French naval fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French naval fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
 == General info ==
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 ! Stock
-| 669 || 650 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 20.4 || 20.8 || 19.3 || 19.3 || rowspan="2" | 220
+| 672 || 647 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 20.1 || 20.8 || 19.3 || 19.3 || rowspan="2" | 220
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| 752 || 708 || 17.8 || 19.0 || 37.5 || 24.8
+| 752 || 708 || 18.0 || 19.0 || 32.8 || 24.8
 |-
 |}
-====Details====
+==== Details ====
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 {{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
 <!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN/M3 (20 mm)}}
+{{main|M3 (20 mm)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
-* 4 x 20 mm [[AN/M3 (20 mm)|AN/M3]] cannon, wing-mounted (188 outer + 225 inner rpg each wing = 826 total)
+* 4 x 20 mm M3 cannons, wing-mounted (188 outer + 225 inner rpg each wing = 826 total)
 The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each cannon bundle is armed with 188 rounds of ammunition in one cannon and 225 rounds in the other, which means that two guns (one in each wing) will run out of ammo before the other two if fired until empty.
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|HVAR|Tiny Tim|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)}}
+{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR|Tiny Tim|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
-* 4 х 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, suspended (340 rpg = 1360 total)
+* 4 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns (340 rpg = 1,360 total)
 * 2 x Tiny Tim rockets
 * 4 x HVAR rockets
-* 4 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
+* 4 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb (1,000 lb total)
-* 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
+* 1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb (1,000 lb total)
-* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
+* 1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 3 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs
+* 3 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
 == Usage in battles ==
-<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 In Arcade battles the F8F-1B can perform at its prime, which is, accordingly, remarkably. Due to the lack of damage due to overheating and such, the F8F-1B can easily outstrip any piston-engined fighter in a climb once upgraded. Prior to the engine-injection upgrade, the 1B performs very well, but not as sublimely as it does with the latter modification. Thus, climbing and BnZ match perfectly with the F8F-1B in AB due to its astounding climb rate, speed, acceleration, and weaponry.
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 Turning is not recommended in RB due to the 1B's mediocre turn rate.
-===Manual Engine Control===
+=== Manual Engine Control ===
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 ! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 |-
-! Oil
+! Oil !! Water !! Type
 |-
-| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
+| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Separate || Controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
 |-
 |}
 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
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 * Engine overheats when not using MEC
 * Lacklustre engine performance above 5 km
-* AN/M3 cannons jam in barely three seconds unless it's modified
+* M3 cannons jam in barely three seconds unless it's modified
 * Ground loops if landing with full brakes
 * Sluggish controls at speeds less than 300 km/h
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 == External links ==
-<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''other literature.''-->
+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/F8F/F8F-1_Standard_Aircraft_Characteristics.pdf Standard Aircraft Characteristics of the F8F-1]

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 * 4 x 20 mm [[AN/M3 (20 mm)|AN/M3]] cannon, wing-mounted (188 outer + 225 inner rpg each wing = 826 total)
-The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each cannon bundle are armed with 188 rounds of ammunition in one cannon and 225 rounds in the other, which means that two guns (one in each wing) will run out of ammo before the other two if fired until empty.
+The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each cannon bundle is armed with 188 rounds of ammunition in one cannon and 225 rounds in the other, which means that two guns (one in each wing) will run out of ammo before the other two if fired until empty.
 === Suspended armament ===

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 * 4 x 20 mm [[AN/M3 (20 mm)|AN/M3]] cannon, wing-mounted (188 outer + 225 inner rpg each wing = 826 total)
-The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each machine gun bundle are armed with 188 rounds of ammunition in one cannon and 225 rounds in the other, which means that two guns (one in each wing) will run out of ammo before the other two if fired until empty.
+The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each cannon bundle are armed with 188 rounds of ammunition in one cannon and 225 rounds in the other, which means that two guns (one in each wing) will run out of ammo before the other two if fired until empty.
 === Suspended armament ===
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=f8f1b_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[F8F (Family)]]
 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
 * [[F6F (Family)]]