F4D-1 - Revision history

U90933977: Added post-1962 designation.

2024-10-29T17:22:10Z

Added post-1962 designation.

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-12-20T10:02:10Z

‎Description

U120313908: /* Description */ Updated to new description

2023-12-20T03:24:49Z

‎Description: Updated to new description

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Reformatted

2023-12-19T10:53:43Z

‎Suspended armament: Reformatted

U38088265: /* Offensive armament */ Updated

2023-12-19T10:50:21Z

‎Offensive armament: Updated

U22067555: /* External links */ Added manufacturer template

2023-09-23T13:47:28Z

‎External links: Added manufacturer template

U60008677: removed outdated 20k sl repair cost from cons

2023-07-13T22:21:26Z

removed outdated 20k sl repair cost from cons

U44629479: /* Media */ Edits

2023-05-29T04:08:44Z

‎Media: Edits

U100904013 at 23:24, 28 May 2023

2023-05-28T23:24:38Z

U109361351: /* Pros and cons */ Added to the "Usage in Battles" category, relevant information about the effects which high-speed compression have on energy retention, as well as the usefulness of dumbfire rockets in evading air-to-air missiles.

2023-05-25T06:08:12Z

‎Pros and cons: Added to the "Usage in Battles" category, relevant information about the effects which high-speed compression have on energy retention, as well as the usefulness of dumbfire rockets in evading air-to-air missiles.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The origins of the '''F4D Skyray''' can be traced to the German studies in more aerodynamic wing designs for high speed manoeuvres with the Me 163. Alexander Martin Lippisch, the creator of this fighter, was brought back to the US together with other German engineers after the end of WWII. With the emergence of new high speed bombers like the Tu-16, the USN decided to create a new interceptor capable of dealing with this aircraft. The XF4D was built in 1951 and was equipped with a Westinghouse J40-WE-8 engine with afterburner after considering it superior to proposed turbojet engines. The tests were carried out for 5 years, and after that the USN became the first user of this interceptor, later the USMC and NACA (later known as NASA) would also use this fighter. The F4D lived a relatively short life, since it was retired in 1964, when more capable multirole aircrafts like the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]] appeared, that were capable of not only dealing with enemy bombers, but also engaging in long range combat and close air support.
+The origins of the '''F4D Skyray''' (later designated the '''F-6A Skyray''') can be traced to the German studies in more aerodynamic wing designs for high speed manoeuvres with the Me 163. Alexander Martin Lippisch, the creator of this fighter, was brought back to the US together with other German engineers after the end of WWII. With the emergence of new high speed bombers like the Tu-16, the USN decided to create a new interceptor capable of dealing with this aircraft. The XF4D was built in 1951 and was equipped with a Westinghouse J40-WE-8 engine with afterburner after considering it superior to proposed turbojet engines. The tests were carried out for 5 years, and after that the USN became the first user of this interceptor, later the USMC and NACA (later known as NASA) would also use this fighter. The F4D lived a relatively short life, since it was retired in 1964, when more capable multirole aircrafts like the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]] appeared, that were capable of not only dealing with enemy bombers, but also engaging in long range combat and close air support.
 It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]]. The last subsonic carrier-based jet fighter adapted into USN service by Douglas, the Skyray offers sufficient speed at its rank with a large wing, boosting its overall climb rate and allowing it to fly in transonic speeds without any fatal structural damage. However, players do have to beware of its outdated design of wing-mounted guns, whereas most jets of the era put them on the centreline instead, as well as severe bleeding of speed in manoeuvres due to the large wing. With access to 4 x AIM-9B air to air missiles, it is a good option for players considering a support fighter at rank VI, with the ability to also dogfight most opponents. For ground attack, it has access to a large amount of FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets, but it should be noted, that most of this rockets use the same pylons as the missiles, so carrying a full load of missiles and rockets at the same time is not possible.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''F4D Skyray''' can be traced to the German studies in more aerodynamic wing designs for high speed manoeuvres with the Me 163. Alexander Martin Lippisch, the creator of this fighter, was brought back to the US together with other German engineers after the end of WWII. With high speed bombers like the Tu-16 Badger, the USN decided to create a new interceptor capable of dealing with this aircraft. The XF4D was built in 1951 and was equipped with Westinghouse J40-WE-8 engine with afterburner after considering it superior to proposed turbojet engines. The tests were carried out for 5 years, and after that the USN became the first user of this interceptor, later the USMC and NACA (later known as NASA) would also use this fighter. The F4D lived a relatively short life, since it was retired in 1964, when more capable multirole aircrafts like the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]] appeared, that were capable of not only with enemy bombers, but also engaging in long range combat and close air support.
+The origins of the '''F4D Skyray''' can be traced to the German studies in more aerodynamic wing designs for high speed manoeuvres with the Me 163. Alexander Martin Lippisch, the creator of this fighter, was brought back to the US together with other German engineers after the end of WWII. With the emergence of new high speed bombers like the Tu-16, the USN decided to create a new interceptor capable of dealing with this aircraft. The XF4D was built in 1951 and was equipped with a Westinghouse J40-WE-8 engine with afterburner after considering it superior to proposed turbojet engines. The tests were carried out for 5 years, and after that the USN became the first user of this interceptor, later the USMC and NACA (later known as NASA) would also use this fighter. The F4D lived a relatively short life, since it was retired in 1964, when more capable multirole aircrafts like the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]] appeared, that were capable of not only dealing with enemy bombers, but also engaging in long range combat and close air support.
 It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]]. The last subsonic carrier-based jet fighter adapted into USN service by Douglas, the Skyray offers sufficient speed at its rank with a large wing, boosting its overall climb rate and allowing it to fly in transonic speeds without any fatal structural damage. However, players do have to beware of its outdated design of wing-mounted guns, whereas most jets of the era put them on the centreline instead, as well as severe bleeding of speed in manoeuvres due to the large wing. With access to 4 x AIM-9B air to air missiles, it is a good option for players considering a support fighter at rank VI, with the ability to also dogfight most opponents. For ground attack, it has access to a large amount of FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets, but it should be noted, that most of this rockets use the same pylons as the missiles, so carrying a full load of missiles and rockets at the same time is not possible.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''', later known as the F-6A under the 1962 Tri-Service aircraft designation system, is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]].
+The '''F4D Skyray''' can be traced to the German studies in more aerodynamic wing designs for high speed manoeuvres with the Me 163. Alexander Martin Lippisch, the creator of this fighter, was brought back to the US together with other German engineers after the end of WWII. With high speed bombers like the Tu-16 Badger, the USN decided to create a new interceptor capable of dealing with this aircraft. The XF4D was built in 1951 and was equipped with Westinghouse J40-WE-8 engine with afterburner after considering it superior to proposed turbojet engines. The tests were carried out for 5 years, and after that the USN became the first user of this interceptor, later the USMC and NACA (later known as NASA) would also use this fighter. The F4D lived a relatively short life, since it was retired in 1964, when more capable multirole aircrafts like the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4 Phantom II]] appeared, that were capable of not only with enemy bombers, but also engaging in long range combat and close air support.
-The last subsonic carrier-based jet fighter adapted into USN service by Douglas, the Skyray offers sufficient speed at its rank with a large wing, boosting its overall climb rate and allowing it to fly in transonic speeds without any fatal structural damage. However, players do have to beware of its outdated design of wing-mounted guns, whereas most jets of the era put them on the centreline instead, as well as severe bleeding of speed in manoeuvres due to the large wing.
+It was introduced during [[Update "Danger Zone"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7796-event-summer-quest-en|2022 Summer Quest event]]. The last subsonic carrier-based jet fighter adapted into USN service by Douglas, the Skyray offers sufficient speed at its rank with a large wing, boosting its overall climb rate and allowing it to fly in transonic speeds without any fatal structural damage. However, players do have to beware of its outdated design of wing-mounted guns, whereas most jets of the era put them on the centreline instead, as well as severe bleeding of speed in manoeuvres due to the large wing. With access to 4 x AIM-9B air to air missiles, it is a good option for players considering a support fighter at rank VI, with the ability to also dogfight most opponents. For ground attack, it has access to a large amount of FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets, but it should be noted, that most of this rockets use the same pylons as the missiles, so carrying a full load of missiles and rockets at the same time is not possible.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 |-
-! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
+! colspan="5" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
 |-
-! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
+! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs) !! Lead indicator
 |-
-| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}}
+| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}}
 |-
 |}
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
 ! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
-| rowspan="3" width="30%" | <!-- <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div> -->
+| rowspan="3" width="25%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
 |-
-! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
 | 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19 || 7, 19
 |-
-! AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
+! [[AIM-9B Sidewinder]] missiles
 | 1 || || 1 || 1 || || 1
 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
-* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 cannons, wing-mounted (70 rpg = 280 total)
+* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 cannons, wing-mounted (65 rpg = 260 total)
 === Suspended armament ===

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:47, 23 September 2023
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	* [[wt:en/news/7798-development-f4d-1-skyray-en\|[Devblog] F4D-1 Skyray]]		* [[wt:en/news/7798-development-f4d-1-skyray-en\|[Devblog] F4D-1 Skyray]]

		+	{{AirManufacturer Douglas}}
	{{USA jet aircraft}}		{{USA jet aircraft}}

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 * Bad rear visibility from the cockpit
 * Wing rips are common while doing basic turns at high speeds, removal of the "New Boosters" modification may mitigate this to a degree.
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f4d_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 ;Skins
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|e9aijFGjE78|'''Ultimate F4D-1 Skyray Guide''' -By Bob Dickinson }}
+{{Youtube-gallery|e9aijFGjE78|'''F4D-1 Skyray Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}
 == See also ==

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:24, 28 May 2023
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	;Skins		;Skins
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		+	;Videos
		+	{{Youtube-gallery\|e9aijFGjE78\|'''Ultimate F4D-1 Skyray Guide''' -By Bob Dickinson }}

	* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f4d_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]		* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f4d_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 Players who fly the A-4 series will feel familiar, since Douglas adopted a similar design of delta wing and autocannon on the F4D-1. Other traits are very similar as well, particularly the manoeuvrability and ballistics. While it has 2 pairs of guns on its wings, a concentrated burst on an enemy will certainly be their demise. Its overall high manoeuvrability and angle of attack (AoA) also helps to gain a slightly longer window to take out enemy aircraft, so long as you stay aware of your speed and keep turns below 950km/h, as this plane does lock up vertically in speeds greater than about 950 km/h. Beware of being stalled by manoeuvres: although the F4D can gain its speed back relatively quickly, this can leave enough window for enemies to lay their guns on your plane. So either be quick with taking down your target or evacuate from the battlefield for another attack run. Fuel is limited to 25 minutes, which goes fast when on full afterburner, so keep an eye on it.
 If ground pounding is your objective, chances are players will find the FFARs useless against ground targets in ground RB and even in air RB due to its explosive content; the task is made slightly easier with the ballistic computer, but do not expect a solid kill aside from light vehicles.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Four devastating 20 mm autocannons which can be bound to fire separately
 * Can carry 114 x FFAR rockets for Ground RB, or a mix of AIM-9Bs & FFAR rockets for Air RB
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Bad rear visibility from the cockpit
 * Wing rips are common while doing basic turns at high speeds, removal of the "New Boosters" modification may mitigate this to a degree.
 == History ==