F-86F-30 (Japan) - Revision history

U43319362: /* Usage in battles */ Removed all references to slats in this section, the F-86F-30 does not have leading-edge wing slats. Corrected minor grammar mistake ("high manoeuvres" --> "high G manoeuvres").

2024-05-19T17:40:55Z

‎Usage in battles: Removed all references to slats in this section, the F-86F-30 does not have leading-edge wing slats. Corrected minor grammar mistake ("high manoeuvres" --> "high G manoeuvres").

U38088265: /* Pros and cons */

2023-11-19T10:04:16Z

‎Pros and cons

U105882843: Pros changed according to new update

2023-11-19T09:27:34Z

Pros changed according to new update

U48664895: Updated description to new format

2023-10-13T23:07:42Z

Updated description to new format

U17577377: /* Suspended armament */

2022-12-21T11:22:01Z

‎Suspended armament

U44629479: Edits

2022-10-30T22:35:54Z

Edits

U105912360: /* Pros and cons */

2022-10-30T02:00:12Z

‎Pros and cons

U105912360: /* Pros and cons */

2022-10-30T01:59:23Z

‎Pros and cons

U105912360: /* Pros and cons */

2022-10-30T01:54:19Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265: /* Details */

2022-06-01T21:39:53Z

‎Details

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-While the F-86F-30's acceleration and top speed are lacking compared to its contemporaries, the F-86F-30's slats allow the plane to have an outstanding manoeuvrability. That said, one must beware of their speed as pulling high manoeuvres at high and max speed can put the plane under great stress which leads to the wings falling apart. The outstanding manoeuvrability comes at the cost of speed. Pulling hard turns will bleed your airspeed. Try to climb up before engaging the enemy to ensure you have enough energy to get out of a sticky situation. Hopefully, there will be a furball underneath you where you would be able to pounce on low-energy fighters with your guns. One advantage the F-86 has over the jets of other nations is the large ammo count of its 6 x .50 cals (1,800) although it would be wise to try and hit most of your shots. Try staying above 500 km/h as any slower and you would lose a significant amount of energy in a prolonged turn.
+While the F-86F-30's acceleration and top speed are lacking compared to its contemporaries, the F-86F-30's strong airframe and hydraulically-boosted tailplane allow the plane to have outstanding manoeuvrability. That said, one must beware of their speed as pulling high G manoeuvres at high and max speed can put the plane under great stress, which leads to the wings falling apart. The outstanding manoeuvrability comes at the cost of speed. Pulling hard turns will bleed your airspeed. Try to climb up before engaging the enemy to ensure you have enough energy to get out of a sticky situation. Hopefully, there will be a furball underneath you where you would be able to pounce on low-energy fighters with your guns. One advantage the F-86 has over the jets of other nations is the large ammo count of its 6 x .50 cals (1,800) although it would be wise to try and hit most of your shots. Try staying above 500 km/h as any slower and you would lose a significant amount of energy in a prolonged turn.
 === Radars ===

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 * Decent radar
 * Clear cockpit view for simulator battle
 '''Cons:'''

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 * Decent radar
 * Clear cockpit view for simulator battle
 '''Cons:'''
 * Easy to rip off the wings with high-speed manoeuvres (realistic and simulator battles)
-* This plane can match up against higher tier jets with afterburner and air-to-air missiles, like MiG-21s, Harriers, Su-25s, etc.
+* This plane can match up against higher tier jets with afterburner and air-to-air missiles, like MiG-21s, Harriers etc.
 * Low ammo count equates to only 15-second burst

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]].
+The F-86F-30 ("NA-191" as North American called it) was the first Sabre to be built with bombing in mind. Earlier Sabres had pitiful endurance when carrying bombs, which became an issue. This led to North American designing the NA-191, which had four hardpoints, either for more fuel or bombs. The combat range was greatly increased, which remedied the main issue of the Sabre's role as a fighter-bomber. The F-86F-30 would soon find a home in Japan. Although Japan was not allowed to have an air force after the war, Allied nations eased up on the restriction and allowed the Japan Air Self Defence Force in 1953. A year later, after the air force was established, they picked the F-86F to be their main fighter. 29 F-86F-25/30s were brought in from US surplus. Many early F-86Fs were brought up to the [[F-86F-40 (Japan)|F-40]] standard, which featured improved handling with leading-edge slats.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
+{{main|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * Without load
 * 16 x HVAR rockets
 * 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Clear cockpit view for simulator battle
+* Great roll rate
 * Decent turn time for jet
 * Good acceleration
-* Decent armament 12.7mm M3 with a high rate of fire
+* Decent armament 12.7 mm M3 with a high rate of fire
 * Can carry bombs or rockets
 * Decent radar
-* Great roll rate
+* Clear cockpit view for simulator battle
 '''Cons:'''
 * Easy to rip off the wings with high-speed manoeuvres (realistic and simulator battles)
-* This plane can match up against higher tier jets with afterburner and missiles
+* This plane can match up against higher tier jets with afterburner and air-to-air missiles, like MiG-21s, Harriers, Su-25s, etc.
 * Low ammo count equates to only 15-second burst
 == History ==

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+==== Details ====
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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 590 || 550 || 350 || ~11 || ~6
+| 1,170 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 590 || 550 || 350 || ~11 || ~6
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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
-<!-- Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems. -->
+<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
 * 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
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 While the F-86F-30's acceleration and top speed are lacking compared to its contemporaries, the F-86F-30's slats allow the plane to have an outstanding manoeuvrability. That said, one must beware of their speed as pulling high manoeuvres at high and max speed can put the plane under great stress which leads to the wings falling apart. The outstanding manoeuvrability comes at the cost of speed. Pulling hard turns will bleed your airspeed. Try to climb up before engaging the enemy to ensure you have enough energy to get out of a sticky situation. Hopefully, there will be a furball underneath you where you would be able to pounce on low-energy fighters with your guns. One advantage the F-86 has over the jets of other nations is the large ammo count of its 6 x .50 cals (1,800) although it would be wise to try and hit most of your shots. Try staying above 500 km/h as any slower and you would lose a significant amount of energy in a prolonged turn.
-===Radars===
+=== Radars ===
 <!--{{main|AN/APG-30}}-->
 The F-86F-30 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.