F-84G-21-RE - Revision history

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Reformatted

2024-02-03T11:52:46Z

‎Suspended armament: Reformatted

U38088265: /* Custom loadout options */

2023-03-08T17:04:17Z

‎Custom loadout options

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-03-08T16:01:02Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U9202753: Category:Live.Warthunder images

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Category:Live.Warthunder images

U97916902: /* Pros and cons */

2022-10-09T07:34:19Z

‎Pros and cons

U44629479: Edits

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U91596107: /* Usage in battles */

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‎Usage in battles

U98391347: /* History */

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‎History

U38088265: /* Description */ Updated class

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‎Description: Updated class

U3312106: /* Radars */

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-| rowspan="8" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84G-21-RE (Italy).png]]</div>
+| rowspan="8" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84G-21-RE_(Italy).png]]</div>
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-! 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs
+! [[AN-M30A1 (100 lb)|100 lb AN-M30A1]] bombs
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-! 250 lb AN-M57 bombs
+! [[AN-M57 (250 lb)|250 lb AN-M57]] bombs
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-! 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
+! [[AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|500 lb AN-M64A1]] bombs
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-! 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs
+! [[AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb AN-M65A1]] bombs
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-! HVAR rockets
+! [[HVAR]] rockets
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-! Tiny Tim rockets
+! [[Tiny Tim]] rockets
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 | colspan="10" | * HVAR rockets on hardpoints 1/8 may only be equipped simultaneously
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 The F-84G offers a range of bombs and rockets for destroying surface targets. Due to the more effective engine utilised in the F-84G, it could sport a larger number of suspended armaments compared to its older brother the [[F-84B-26|F-84B]], turning into a truly ground attack workhorse. In comparison, a fully-loaded single-seat {{PAGENAME}} had approximately the same loadout capability as an early 7 crew [[B-25J-1|B-25J]] bomber. The smaller bombs such as the AN-M30A1 and AN-M57 and HVAR rockets are useful against soft targets like anti-aircraft batteries, unarmoured vehicles, ships and some light tanks. The heavier hitters like the AN-M61A1, AN-M65A1 and Tiny Tim rockets are effective (more like overkill) for the softer targets, but also work well with bunkers, heavier armoured tanks, larger ships and can also be utilised against bases.

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-The F-84G is one of a small handful of aircraft in War Thunder which offers many different suspended armament options ranging from bombs and rockets depending on the target needing to be destroyed. Due to the more effective engine utilised in the F-84G, it could sport a larger number of suspended armaments compared to its older brother the [[F-84B-26|F-84B]], turning into a truly ground attack workhorse. In comparison, a fully-loaded single-seat {{PAGENAME}} had approximately the same loadout capability as an early 7 crew [[B-25J-1|B-25J]] bomber. The smaller bombs such as the AN-M30A1 and AN-M57 and HVAR rockets are useful against soft targets like anti-aircraft batteries, unarmoured vehicles, ships and some light tanks. The heavier hitters like the AN-M61A1, AN-M65A1 and Tiny Tim rockets are effective (more like overkill) for the softer targets, but also work well with bunkers, heavier armoured tanks, larger ships and can also be utilised against bases.
+The F-84G offers a range of bombs and rockets for destroying surface targets. Due to the more effective engine utilised in the F-84G, it could sport a larger number of suspended armaments compared to its older brother the [[F-84B-26|F-84B]], turning into a truly ground attack workhorse. In comparison, a fully-loaded single-seat {{PAGENAME}} had approximately the same loadout capability as an early 7 crew [[B-25J-1|B-25J]] bomber. The smaller bombs such as the AN-M30A1 and AN-M57 and HVAR rockets are useful against soft targets like anti-aircraft batteries, unarmoured vehicles, ships and some light tanks. The heavier hitters like the AN-M61A1, AN-M65A1 and Tiny Tim rockets are effective (more like overkill) for the softer targets, but also work well with bunkers, heavier armoured tanks, larger ships and can also be utilised against bases.
 Sometimes the suspended weapons you start out with doesn't work well later on in the match, therefore you can return to your base and exit the aircraft (default key = "J") and select a different load-out unless you would like to fly strictly as a fighter where you can select "without load" and rely just on the six Browning M3 machine guns. The wide variety of ordnance options available for this aircraft make it an excellent clean-up ground attacker which can attack just about anything on the map with the right setup.

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 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 * Without load
 * 2 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (200 lb total)
 * 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (500 lb total)
 * 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
-* 24 x HVAR rockets
-* 32 x HVAR rockets
+==== Custom loadout options ====
-* 24 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (200 lb total)
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-* 24 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (500 lb total)
+|-
-* 24 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
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-* 24 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
+| rowspan="8" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84G-21-RE (Italy).png]]</div>
-* 24 x HVAR rockets + 2 x Tiny Tim rockets
+|-
 The F-84G is one of a small handful of aircraft in War Thunder which offers many different suspended armament options ranging from bombs and rockets depending on the target needing to be destroyed. Due to the more effective engine utilised in the F-84G, it could sport a larger number of suspended armaments compared to its older brother the [[F-84B-26|F-84B]], turning into a truly ground attack workhorse. In comparison, a fully-loaded single-seat {{PAGENAME}} had approximately the same loadout capability as an early 7 crew [[B-25J-1|B-25J]] bomber. The smaller bombs such as the AN-M30A1 and AN-M57 and HVAR rockets are useful against soft targets like anti-aircraft batteries, unarmoured vehicles, ships and some light tanks. The heavier hitters like the AN-M61A1, AN-M65A1 and Tiny Tim rockets are effective (more like overkill) for the softer targets, but also work well with bunkers, heavier armoured tanks, larger ships and can also be utilised against bases.
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 * Centreline armament of six .50 cal machine guns with a great rate of fire
 * A variety of large payload options, a fantastic ground attacker
 * High top speed
 * Good acceleration
 * Excellent dive speed

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=f-84g
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
 |cockpit=cockpit_f-84g.jpg
 }}

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 * Centreline armament of six .50 cal machine guns with a great rate of fire
-* Huge payload options, a fantastic ground attacker
+* A variety of large payload options, a fantastic ground attacker
 * Good acceleration
 * Excellent dive speed
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 '''Cons:'''
-* Turn rate is not very good, though better than the F-84B
+* Turn rate is below average, though better than the F-84B
 * Manoeuvrability diminished with heavy payloads
-* Middle road fighter, not the best or fastest, but capable
+* Long takeoff run
-* Long takeoff roll out
+* Big performance drop at higher altitudes
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-84g Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 ;Fighter Interceptor
-The F-84G is one of the fastest aircraft at its BR and it is more then capable of fighting early jets, preferably using [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and Zoom]] or [[Boom & Run|Boom and Run]] tactics. After spawning, reach a speed of at least 650 km/h or about 400 mph (this part shouldn't be very hard since the F-84G gets an airspawn on most maps) then climb at an angle of 10 degrees. After reaching your wanted altitude procede to dive down on unsuspecting enemies and disintegrate them using your centreline [[M3 Browning (12.7 mm)|M3 .50 cals]]. After making a pass do not turn after your opponents but keep your energy up and increase your distance, then repeat the process.
+The F-84G is one of the fastest aircraft at its BR and it is more than capable of fighting early jets, preferably using [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and Zoom]] or [[Boom & Run|Boom and Run]] tactics. After spawning, reach a speed of at least 650 km/h or about 400 mph (this part shouldn't be very hard since the F-84G gets an airspawn on most maps) then climb at an angle of 10 degrees. After reaching your wanted altitude procede to dive down on unsuspecting enemies and disintegrate them using your centreline [[M3 Browning (12.7 mm)|M3 .50 cals]]. After making a pass do not turn after your opponents but keep your energy up and increase your distance, then repeat the process.
 The F-84G has a minimum fuel load of 7 minutes which means that you will have to be aware of your fuel or take a bigger fuel load and accept the performance drop that comes with it. Another problem the F-84G has is the ammo count. It has 300 rounds per gun and because of the M3 machine guns' high rate of fire the ammo can be depleted entirely in just 15 seconds. This may sound a lot to some players but the [[M3 Browning (12.7 mm)|M3]] are machine guns and not cannons so you will need to hit more rounds than usual and in turn waste more rounds. Nonetheless the F-84G still has enough ammo to reliably take down 3-4 aircraft before having to rearm in the airfield.

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 In early 1944, Alexander Kartveli, the chief designer for the Republic Aviation Aircraft Company set out to work on a replacement for the piston-powered P-47 Thunderbolt which instead would be powered by a turbojet. All attempts at trying to use the P-47 frame to accommodate a turbojet failed and Kartveli resorted to designing a brand new aircraft around an axial compressor turbojet engine.<ref name="Burrows" /> Due to the nature of the engine taking up a large majority of the fuselage, fuel tanks were designed to be in the wings of the aircraft, however, the body was streamlined to make the smallest profile possible and retain all necessary critical components.
-The USAAF in September 1944 released new requirements for a daytime fighter along with specific characteristics such as the top speed of 600 mph (966 km/h), armament of six 21.7mm machine guns or four 15.2 mm machine guns along with housing a General Electric TG-180 axial turbojet also known as the Allison J35 series turbojet engine.<ref name="Burrows" /> Republic proposed their new aircraft and on paper proposed it would be superior to Lockheed's P-80 Shooting Star. The USAAF noting Republic's already proven experience with single-seat fighters proposed a contract without holding any competition. These initial order fighters were listed as YP-84As and P-84Bs.
+The USAAF in September 1944 released new requirements for a daytime fighter along with specific characteristics such as the top speed of 600 mph (966 km/h), armament of six 12.7mm machine guns or four 15.2 mm machine guns along with housing a General Electric TG-180 axial turbojet also known as the Allison J35 series turbojet engine.<ref name="Burrows" /> Republic proposed their new aircraft and on paper proposed it would be superior to Lockheed's P-80 Shooting Star. The USAAF noting Republic's already proven experience with single-seat fighters proposed a contract without holding any competition. These initial order fighters were listed as YP-84As and P-84Bs.
 These early test aircraft were put to wind tunnel testing and it was found that major flaws developed when subjected to high speeds, notably longitudinal instability in the aircraft's frame and stabilizer skin buckling at high speeds. Also noted was issues with the weight of the aircraft and the problem with early turbojets not producing enough thrust for takeoff and climb outs (a problem which plagued the F-84B aircraft until more robust engines were outfitted). Early J35-GE-7 engines were replaced with J35-A-15 versions which helped with the thrust ratio, however wing-tip fuel tanks were added to the mix prior to proper testing and issues developed which at one point grounded the fleet of aircraft until modifications were made.

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 {{About
-|about=American jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+|about=American strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 |usage=other versions
 |link=F-84 (Family)
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
 Republic Aircraft Company's jump into the jet fighter market was not as smooth as they would have liked. They experienced severe growing pains as they developed and produced the F-84 series aircraft, especially the B, C, D and E variants. Important upgrades and modifications included a more powerful turbine engine, strengthened wings, aerodynamically secure wing-tip fuel tanks and a strengthened structure. The resultant of these upgrades was the much improved F-84G fighter, which boasted new innovations such as improved avionics, radar, the capability of in-flight refuelling and ability to carry a Mark 7 nuclear bomb. Though the operationally longest lasting of the series with the United States (into the mid-1960s), several other nations continued to use it including France, Italy and Taiwan (Republic of China), however, Greece continued flying their fighters until 1991.<ref name="Burrows" />
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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The F-84G is a streamline all-metal jet fighter which was designed to house the upgraded Allison J35-A-29 turbine jet engine. Though an upgraded engine compared to the F-84B, typically this fighter was laden with more ordnance thus still requiring a significant roll-out time of 1,500 m (~5,000 ft) before lift-off. Don't be dismayed as other fighters are taking to the sky while you are still building up speed as once in the air you can climb to bomber altitude or set up for a ground attack run that few others can rival.
+The F-84G is a streamlined all-metal jet fighter which was designed to house the upgraded Allison J35-A-29 turbine jet engine. Though an upgraded engine compared to the F-84B, typically this fighter was laden with more ordnance thus still requiring a significant roll-out time of 1,500 m (~5,000 ft) before lift-off. Don't be dismayed as other fighters are taking to the sky while you are still building up speed as once in the air you can climb to bomber altitude or set up for a ground attack run that few others can rival.
 Though the take-off and climb characteristics of the Allison jet engine appeared lacklustre, it actually had decent level flight speed and good dive characteristics. Speed is what saves this fighter, in once it has enough built up, it will perform. Though not the fastest at its battle rating, the F-84G is a great boom & zoom aircraft vs. being a dog-fighter. Turning this aircraft will bleed its speed and the roll rate can be affected by the weight of the wing-tip fuel tanks. One negative aspect of the wing-tip fuel tanks of the early F-84s was that high speeds (+1,000 km/h) tended to cause the fuel tanks to twist resulting (mitigated by the addition of fins on the tanks) in the destruction of the wings which does reflect in realistic and simulator battles in-game if exceeded. While turning in this jet is not advised, Immelmann and Split-S manoeuvres will help to conserve energy without compromising the speed of the aircraft.

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 ! colspan="4" | AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
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-! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}}
+! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
-! {{Annotation|Guaranteed<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The range, below which, detection of a target is practically guaranteed}}
+! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
-! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth<br/>Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
+! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
-! {{Annotation|Max Elevation<br/>Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
+! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
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 | 2,750 m || 300 m || ±9° || ±9°