F-84F (Italy) - Revision history

U38088265: Edits

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U38088265: /* Description */

2023-04-08T19:47:19Z

‎Description

U31139476: Corrections + links

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Corrections + links

U31139476: /* Description */ added description

2023-04-08T11:12:32Z

‎Description: added description

U44629479: Edits

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U25775111: /* Usage in battles */

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‎Usage in battles

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

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‎Suspended armament: Updated

U44629479: /* Armaments */ Edits

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‎Armaments: Edits

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U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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 |-
 ! Stock
-| 1,089 || 1,066 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 31.2 || 31.1 || 29.2 || rowspan="2" | 3,000
+| 1,090 || 1,067 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.7 || 30.9 || 30.7 || 28.8 || rowspan="2" | 2,000
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.3 || 28.0 || 45.5 || 38.0
+| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.5 || 28.0 || 45.9 || 38.0
 |-
 |}
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 ! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
 |-
-| {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
+| {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
 |-
 |}
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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 | rowspan="9" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84F.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! BLU-1 incendiary bombs
+! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
 | 7 || 7 || 7 || || || 7 || 7 || 7
 |-
-! HVAR rockets
+! [[HVAR]] rockets
 | 2 || 2 || 2 || 6 || 6 || 2 || 2 || 2
 |-
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 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==
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 The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.
-===Radars===
+=== Radars ===
 <!--{{main|AN/APG-30}}-->
 The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The [[F-84F]] was exported to several countries, one of these countries was Italy, the 102nd Group was the first Italian air group to equip the F-84F and replaced the [[F-84G-21-RE (Italy)|F-84G]] in 1956, then later the 101st Group and finally the 103rd Group, F-84F was not much liked by the aviators at the time because it had poor flying qualities, however between 1958 and 1959, F-84F was used by the Diavoli Rossi aerobatic patrol, in addition to F-84F, Italy also used the reconnaissance variant the RF-84F, eventually F-84F will be replaced by the [[G.91 (Family)|G.91]] and in other groups by the [[F-104G (Italy)|F-104G]], and their last use will be by the 5th Air Brigade to escort Pope Paolo VI who went to Israel for the first time in January 1964
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-In the game ▄F-84F added with [[Update "Hot Tracks"|"Hot Tracks" update]], it is an assaulter/fighter-bomber, with arrow wings that allow it to reach high speeds faster but reduce the aircraft's manoeuvrability due to the loss of speed in manoeuvres, it is more of an energy fight and boom and zoom aircraft, mainly you will use it as a CAS in land battles or as a bomber in air battles, thanks to its good payload with different armaments you can choose from bombs and rockets.
+Introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]], the ▄F-84F is an assaulter/fighter-bomber, with swept wings that allow it to reach high speeds faster but reduce the aircraft's manoeuvrability due to the loss of speed in manoeuvres. It is more of an energy fight and boom and zoom aircraft, but can also be used as CAS in ground battles or as a bomber in air battles, thanks to its good payloads of a variety of bombs and rockets.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The [[F-84F]] was exported to several countries, one of these countries was Italy, the 102nd Group was the first Italian air group to equip the F-84F and replaced the [[F-84G-21-RE (Italy)|F-84G]] in 1956, then later the 101st Group and finally the 103rd Group, F-84F was not much liked by the aviators at the time because it had poor flying qualities, however between 1958 and 1959, F-84F was used by the Diavoli Rossi aerobatic patrol, in addition to F-84F, Italy also used the reconnaissance variant the RF-84F, eventually F-84F will be replaced by the [[G.91 (Family)|G.91]] and in other groups by the [[F-104G (Italy)|F-104G]], and their last use will be by the 5th Air Brigade to escort Pope Paolo VI who went to Israel for the first time in January 1964
 In the game ▄F-84F added with [[Update "Hot Tracks"|"Hot Tracks" update]], it is an assaulter/fighter-bomber, with arrow wings that allow it to reach high speeds faster but reduce the aircraft's manoeuvrability due to the loss of speed in manoeuvres, it is more of an energy fight and boom and zoom aircraft, mainly you will use it as a CAS in land battles or as a bomber in air battles, thanks to its good payload with different armaments you can choose from bombs and rockets.

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 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
 == General info ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1v1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
+The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1-vs-1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
 The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like easy 1v1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
+The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1v1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
 The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-84f_italy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[F-84 (Family)]]

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 {{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|HVAR}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
 * 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 * 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
-* 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 12 x HVAR rockets
-* 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+==== Custom loadout options ====
 == Usage in battles ==

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of play-style. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like easy 1v1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
+The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like easy 1v1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
 The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+;Related development
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[F-84 (Family)]]
 == External links ==