F-84F (Germany) - Revision history

U140792310: Changed the part about the air spawn. The german f84f doesn't get one

2024-11-25T03:49:09Z

Changed the part about the air spawn. The german f84f doesn't get one

U44629479: Undo revision 184292 by U140753025 (talk)

2024-03-28T21:29:36Z

Undo revision 184292 by U140753025 (talk)

U140753025: /* Pros and cons */

2024-03-28T20:19:20Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265 at 10:06, 26 August 2023

2023-08-26T10:06:27Z

U48664895: Updated description and added section for surviability/armor

2023-08-26T04:07:18Z

Updated description and added section for surviability/armor

U38088265: Edits

2023-07-09T11:29:52Z

Edits

U9202753: Specs-Card ArtImage Added

2023-01-30T21:40:18Z

Specs-Card ArtImage Added

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2022-12-26T21:21:18Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U44629479: /* Armaments */ Edits

2022-12-21T10:21:18Z

‎Armaments: Edits

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2022-06-19T19:24:46Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The F-84F gets a bad rap, but it is a surprisingly fun aircraft to fly, more so once spaded. The air spawn is a big help in grinding up the aircraft modifications. Until the bombs are unlocked, use the advantage of the air spawn to climb and look for bombers. If no bombers are present, look for fighters engaging friendlies.
+The F-84F gets a bad rap, but it is a surprisingly fun aircraft to fly, more so once spaded. Unfortunately, unlike its American counterpart, the German F84F '''does not''' get an airspawn. Until the bombs are unlocked, use the advantage of the air spawn to climb and look for bombers. If no bombers are present, look for fighters engaging friendlies.
 Keep the F-84F's speed around 700 km/h when climbing. The aircraft has relatively good dive acceleration and top end for its BR. This makes it a natural for Boom and Run tactics. Make sure the plane is set up so the run is either toward the airfield or friendlies so that any chasers will be picked off by allies and or the airfield's anti-air defenses. Try to engage at as close to 1,000 km/h as possible and do not try to turn if the target goes evasive. This aircraft has terrible acceleration, so it is important to keep the F-84F's speed up. Quite often the F-84F will get chasers with AIM-9Bs. Keep a look out for them and use occasional hard manoeuvres to break lock. Fortunately, it does not take much to break lock of the AIM-9Bs.

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
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 * Turning is below average so don't expect to last long in a dogfight with any aircraft
 * While turning, speed is bled a lot so maintain your speed
-* Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, there AIM-9B's so just turn sharp to evade them
+* Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, any of which it has difficulty evading
 * Most jets will catch up to you due to the poor acceleration
 * The FFAR rockets are placed at the wing tips, this will result in poor accuracy

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
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 * Turning is below average so don't expect to last long in a dogfight with any aircraft
 * While turning, speed is bled a lot so maintain your speed
-* Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, any of which it has difficulty evading
+* Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, there AIM-9B's so just turn sharp to evade them
 * Most jets will catch up to you due to the poor acceleration
 * The FFAR rockets are placed at the wing tips, this will result in poor accuracy

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+Introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a decent strike aircraft that can carry 250 lb bombs up to 2,000 lb bombs along with rockets. The six centre-mounted M3 Browning machine guns are incredibly effective in taking out light pillboxes and other soft ground targets like anti-air or howitzers. However, the F-84F struggles with fighting other aircraft. The speed of the earlier F-84Gs is largely insignificant when it comes to the F-84F as many other planes in its BR bracket are much better in terms of performance. Ultimately, it's a good strike aircraft that suffers when it comes to defending itself or attacking other enemy players.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-The F-84F has three armored pieces protecting the pilot. There is a 38 mm bulletproof piece of glass angled at 61° directly in front of the pilot. An 8 mm steel plate angled at 15° sits directly behind the pilot's seat and almost entirely covers the pilot directly from the rear. Lastly, there is a 12.7 mm steel plate angled at 56° right above and behind the pilot’s head. The F-84F has six self-sealing fuel tanks. Two of the tanks sit near the wingtips, and another two are placed at the wing roots. Lastly, one fuel tank sits directly beneath the pilot and the final tank is behind the pilot. Although the F-84F does have armor and self-sealing fuel tanks, it’s ultimately futile when many of its opponents have high-powered cannons like DEFAs or NR-23s.
+The F-84F has three armoured pieces protecting the pilot. There is a 38 mm pane of bulletproof glass angled at 61° directly in front of the pilot. An 8 mm steel plate angled at 15° sits directly behind the pilot's seat and almost entirely covers the pilot directly from the rear. Lastly, there is a 12.7 mm steel plate angled at 56° right above and behind the pilot's head. The F-84F has six self-sealing fuel tanks. Two of the tanks sit near the wingtips, and another two are placed at the wing roots. Lastly, one fuel tank sits directly beneath the pilot and the final tank is behind the pilot. Although the F-84F does have armour and self-sealing fuel tanks, it's ultimately futile when many of its opponents have high-powered cannons like DEFAs or NR-23s.
 === Modifications and economy ===
 {{Specs-Economy}}
-For modifications, as with almost all jets in the German tree, performance and survivability mods should be priority, except for the booster which really is not all that necessary and lends itself to more wing rips. G-Suit is a must. The six .50 caliber guns are accurate enough baselines as is the ammo, so go for the bombs and/or rockets next.
 == Armaments ==
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 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
-''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
+The F-84F has three armored pieces protecting the pilot. There is a 38 mm bulletproof piece of glass angled at 61° directly in front of the pilot. An 8 mm steel plate angled at 15° sits directly behind the pilot's seat and almost entirely covers the pilot directly from the rear. Lastly, there is a 12.7 mm steel plate angled at 56° right above and behind the pilot’s head. The F-84F has six self-sealing fuel tanks. Two of the tanks sit near the wingtips, and another two are placed at the wing roots. Lastly, one fuel tank sits directly beneath the pilot and the final tank is behind the pilot. Although the F-84F does have armor and self-sealing fuel tanks, it’s ultimately futile when many of its opponents have high-powered cannons like DEFAs or NR-23s.
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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 |-
 ! Stock
-| 1,089 || 1,066 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 31.2 || 31.1 || 29.2 || rowspan="2" | 3,000
+| 1,090 || 1,067 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.7 || 30.9 || 30.7 || 28.8 || rowspan="2" | 2,000
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.3 || 28.0 || 45.5 || 38.0
+| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.5 || 28.0 || 45.9 || 38.0
 |-
 |}
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 ! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
 |-
-| {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
+| {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
 |-
 |}
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
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 | rowspan="9" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84F.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! BLU-1 incendiary bombs
+! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
 | 7 || 7 || 7 || || || 7 || 7 || 7
 |-
-! HVAR rockets
+! [[HVAR]] rockets
 | 2 || 2 || 2 || 6 || 6 || 2 || 2 || 2
 |-
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 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=f-84f_germany
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
 }}

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 {{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|HVAR}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
 * 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 * 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
-The two bombs in the central axis drop independently.
+==== Custom loadout options ====
 == Usage in battles ==