F-84F (France) - Revision history

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-With the introduction of the first jet powered domestically produced French aircrafts, the French Air Force required a dedicated close air support and strike platform. With the Vautour II still in development and also being a very large aircraft for certain strike missions, France looked elsewhere for an aircraft capable of fulfilling this role. With the introduction in the United States of the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, France negotiated the acquisition of this aircraft, already having experience operating the regular F-84. The aircraft was introduced in 1954 with the USAF, and by 1955 the first F-84Fs arrived, a total of 328 F-84Fs and 88 RF-84Fs were bought from the US.
+With the introduction of the first jet-powered domestically produced French aircraft, the French Air Force required a dedicated close air support and strike platform. With the Vautour II still in development and also being a very large aircraft for certain strike missions, France looked elsewhere for an aircraft capable of fulfilling this role. With the introduction of the United States of the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, France negotiated the acquisition of this aircraft, already having experience operating the regular F-84. The aircraft was introduced in 1954 with the USAF, and by 1955 the first F-84Fs arrived, a total of 328 F-84Fs and 88 RF-84Fs were bought from the US.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a dedicated strike platform that is common amongst various tech trees in War Thunder. It features a sizable loadout, a good top speed, decent manoeuvrability, easy to use guns and a CCRP ballistic computer for its bombs with CCIP for the cannons. The F-84F lacks an air spawn being located at rank VI, and due to its below average acceleration, it might be one of the lasts to reach the battlefield when armed with bombs. For air combat the F-84s performance is very good at high speeds, so try to gain altitude and keep your speed above Mach 0.8 in most situations.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a dedicated strike platform that is common amongst various tech trees in War Thunder. It features a sizable loadout, a good top speed, decent manoeuvrability, easy-to-use guns and a CCRP ballistic computer for its bombs with CCIP for the cannons. The F-84F lacks an air spawn being located at rank VI, and due to its below-average acceleration, it might be one of the last to reach the battlefield when armed with bombs. For air combat the F-84s performance is very good at high speeds, so try to gain altitude and keep your speed above Mach 0.8 in most situations.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
+With the introduction of the first jet powered domestically produced French aircrafts, the French Air Force required a dedicated close air support and strike platform. With the Vautour II still in development and also being a very large aircraft for certain strike missions, France looked elsewhere for an aircraft capable of fulfilling this role. With the introduction in the United States of the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, France negotiated the acquisition of this aircraft, already having experience operating the regular F-84. The aircraft was introduced in 1954 with the USAF, and by 1955 the first F-84Fs arrived, a total of 328 F-84Fs and 88 RF-84Fs were bought from the US.
 == General info ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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 |-
 ! Stock
-| 1,089 || 1,066 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 31.2 || 31.1 || 29.2 || rowspan="2" | 3,000
+| 1,090 || 1,067 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.7 || 30.9 || 30.7 || 28.8 || rowspan="2" | 2,000
 |-
 ! Upgraded
-| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.3 || 28.0 || 45.5 || 38.0
+| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.5 || 28.0 || 45.9 || 38.0
 |-
 |}
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 ! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
 |-
-| {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
+| {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
 |-
 |}
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
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 | rowspan="9" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-84F.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! BLU-1 incendiary bombs
+! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
 |-
-! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
 | 7 || 7 || 7 || || || 7 || 7 || 7
 |-
-! HVAR rockets
+! [[HVAR]] rockets
 | 2 || 2 || 2 || 6 || 6 || 2 || 2 || 2
 |-
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 |-
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==
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 ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
-===Radars===
+=== Radars ===
 <!--{{main|AN/APG-30}}-->
 The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Can carry a decent amount of bombs and rockets, being able to destroy a base and after light targets or tanks with the rockets
 * Gets an airspawn and being extremely useful for a F84F at the start of the match
 * Somewhat fast and with a good top speed
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 '''Cons:'''
 * While fast as long as it has enough energy, it can still be reached or outrun by some planes, mainly by any variant of the F-86 sabre
 * Slow acceleration, and even bad fully loaded with bombs
 * 12.7 mm armament does not do enough damage in the short engagement windows of jet dogfights

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Can carry heavy bombs
+* Can carry a decent amount of bombs and rockets, being able to destroy a base and after light targets or tanks with the rockets
-* Gets an airspawn on some maps
+* Gets an airspawn and being extremely useful for a F84F at the start of the match
 '''Cons:'''
-* Rather slow, can be outrun by even the early jet bombers
+* While fast as long as it has enough energy, it can still be reached or outrun by some planes, mainly by any variant of the F-86 sabre
 * 12.7 mm armament does not do enough damage in the short engagement windows of jet dogfights
 * Fragile, any 20+ mm calibre cannons will shred the aircraft if they hit
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-84f_france Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 {{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|HVAR}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
 * Without load
 * 24 x HVAR rockets
 * 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 * 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
 * 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 * 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
-* 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 12 x HVAR rockets
-* 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+==== Custom loadout options ====
 == Usage in battles ==

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 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
+! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel
 |-
 | 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
-| 7,177 kg || 7,800 kg || 8,367 kg || 8,935 kg
+| 7,177 kg || 7,838 kg || 8,368 kg || 8,935 kg
 |-
-! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
+! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 |-
 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || MTOW
+! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel || MTOW
 |-
 | ''Stationary'' || 3,470 kgf || N/A
 | 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
+| ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
 | 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 |-