F-80C-10 - Revision history

U44629479: Edits

2024-03-07T18:30:28Z

Edits

U142816186: A modifications edit regarding important steps taken from the earlier variant.

2024-03-07T01:46:43Z

A modifications edit regarding important steps taken from the earlier variant.

U142816186: /* Modifications and economy */ As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-

2024-03-07T01:45:04Z

‎Modifications and economy: As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-

U142816186: /* Modifications and economy */

2024-03-07T01:35:18Z

‎Modifications and economy

U38088265: /* Armaments */ Reformatted

2024-02-02T20:54:05Z

‎Armaments: Reformatted

U128870270: Very minor grammar changes

2023-11-13T04:53:54Z

Very minor grammar changes

U48664895 at 18:41, 29 September 2023

2023-09-29T18:41:39Z

U48664895: Updated description to new format

2023-09-29T18:40:18Z

Updated description to new format

U138686716: /* Pros and cons */

2023-09-17T20:44:53Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-03-08T16:57:54Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

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 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage Repair and Cover are not useful and can be ignored until the very end, although Airframe can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have Airframe).
+{{Specs-Economy}}
 == Armaments ==

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 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}
+{{Specs-Economy}}As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage Repair and Cover are not useful and can be ignored until the very end, although Airframe can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have Airframe).
 == Armaments ==

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 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage Repair and Cover are not useful and can be ignored until the very end, although Airframe can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have Airframe).
+{{Specs-Economy}}
 == Armaments ==

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 === Modifications and economy ===
-{{Specs-Economy}}
+{{Specs-Economy}}As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so Compressor and Engine should be focused on first, then a choice between Airframe, New Boosters or the Offensive 12 mm. Wings Repair is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage Repair and Cover are not useful and can be ignored until the very end, although Airframe can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have Airframe).
 == Armaments ==
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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * Without load
 * 8 x HVAR rockets

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The last production version of the P-80 Shooting Star was the P-80C. It was intended to have better engines and the first batches of P-80Cs had the Allison J33-A-23 engine. The last production batches had the more powerful Allison J33-A-35 engine that provided a 15% increase in thrust. Around 550 P-80Cs were fitted with the new engine. The P-80C also received the M3 Browning machine guns which boasted a very high fire rate. In 1948, the P-80C was redesignated as the F-80C. The vast majority of Shooting Stars that saw combat in the Korean War were F-80Cs and many were fitted with extra fuel tanks to increase endurance.  The F-80C was in service until 1958 when the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve retired them.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.33]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very good evolution of the F-80A-5. The new engine and M3 machine guns greatly increased the F-80C’s capability against fighters. The six M3 Brownings feature better range and fire rate which is a must-have for jet combat. The F-80C also has a better ground loadout and can carry up to four 1,000 lb bombs. The Allison J-33-A-35 comes with a water injection system that increases power up for around 100 seconds. Players should use this wisely as it’s quite limited; it’s particularly useful for accelerating from low speeds.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.33]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very good evolution of the F-80A-5. The new engine and M3 machine guns greatly increased the F-80C's capability against fighters. The six M3 Brownings feature better range and fire rate which is a must-have for jet combat. The F-80C also has a better ground loadout and can carry up to four 1,000 lb bombs. The Allison J-33-A-35 comes with a water injection system that increases power up for around 100 seconds. Players should use this wisely as it's quite limited; it's particularly useful for accelerating from low speeds.
 == General info ==
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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-! 250 lb AN-M57 bombs
+! [[AN-M57 (250 lb)|250 lb AN-M57]] bombs
 | || || 1 || 1 || || || || || 1 || 1 || ||
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-! 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
+! [[AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|500 lb AN-M64A1]] bombs
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-! 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs
+! [[AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb AN-M65A1]] bombs
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 |-
-! Mk 78 incendiary bombs
+! [[Mk 78 incendiary]] bombs
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-! HVAR rockets
+! [[HVAR]] rockets
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 == Usage in battles ==

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 The last production version of the P-80 Shooting Star was the P-80C. It was intended to have better engines and the first batches of P-80Cs had the Allison J33-A-23 engine. The last production batches had the more powerful Allison J33-A-35 engine that provided a 15% increase in thrust. Around 550 P-80Cs were fitted with the new engine. The P-80C also received the M3 Browning machine guns which boasted a very high fire rate. In 1948, the P-80C was redesignated as the F-80C. The vast majority of Shooting Stars that saw combat in the Korean War were F-80Cs and many were fitted with extra fuel tanks to increase endurance.  The F-80C was in service until 1958 when the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve retired them.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.33]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very good evolution of the F-80A-5. The new engine and M3 machine guns greatly increase the F-80C’s capability against fighters. The six M3 Brownings feature better range and fire rate which is a must-have for jet combat. The F-80C also has a better ground loadout and can carry up to four 1,000 lb bombs. The Allison J-33-A-35 comes with a water injection system that increases power up for around 100 seconds. Players should use this wisely as it’s quite limited; it’s particularly useful for accelerating from low speeds.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.33]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very good evolution of the F-80A-5. The new engine and M3 machine guns greatly increased the F-80C’s capability against fighters. The six M3 Brownings feature better range and fire rate which is a must-have for jet combat. The F-80C also has a better ground loadout and can carry up to four 1,000 lb bombs. The Allison J-33-A-35 comes with a water injection system that increases power up for around 100 seconds. Players should use this wisely as it’s quite limited; it’s particularly useful for accelerating from low speeds.
 == General info ==
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-Like most American fighters, your best option to attack is Boom and Zoom. At the start of the match, fly out towards the edge of the map. Climb at 2-3 degrees until you have reached ~770 km/h (~420 knots) at ~910 metres (~3,000 ft), then zoom climb at 20-30 degrees. Once you have slowed down to 287 km/h (155 kt), continue to climb at a solid 10 degrees. Optimally, you should have between 3.7-4.9 km (12,000-16,000 ft) depending on how high the highest enemy is, before turning in towards the area of conflict (continue to climb or maintain altitude). Only once you have selected a target should you dive and make your pass. Always keep your energy high, whether it be speed or altitude. Because the F-80 is frequently uptiered, the best option is to dive on unsuspecting targets that are occupied engaging your teammates.
+Like most American fighters, your best option to attack is Boom and Zoom. At the start of the match, fly out towards the edge of the map. Climb at 2-3 degrees until you have reached ~770 km/h (~420 knots) at ~910 metres (~3,000 ft), then zoom climb at 20-30 degrees. Once you have slowed down to 287 km/h (155 kt), continue to climb at a solid 10 degrees. Optimally, you should have between 3.7-4.9 km (12,000-16,000 ft) depending on how high the highest enemy is, before turning towards the area of conflict (continue to climb or maintain altitude). Only once you have selected a target should you dive and make your pass. Always keep your energy high, whether it be speed or altitude. Because the F-80 is frequently uptiered, the best option is to dive on unsuspecting targets that are occupied engaging your teammates.
 Defensive flying, rolling scissors, and to some degree, turn fighting, are options with the hydraulic boosters upgrade, as the straight wing as compared to 9.0 jets with swept wings provides better manoeuvrability at medium speeds (463-648 km/h, 250-350 knots). Any higher and the control surfaces begin to stiffen, any lower and you risk stalling out first, as jets with higher BR generally have a better thrust-to-weight ratio.

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 * Effective weapons
 * Can outturn MiG-15s when the need arises
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Overall useless in a uptier, it is just too slow
 * Just 100 seconds of WEP in RB, it is only there for emergencies
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-80 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;Related development
 * [[F-80A-5]]